AAnchaud,
Are you familiar with Musaylama "the Liar"? And Tulayha al Azdi. The false Prophets of arabia. The fact is they were rejected because it was clearly conveyed to them that there is no Prophethood after Muhammad saw. Musaylama got support from his tribe banu haneef because banu haneef wanted a prophet like Quraysh. Banu Assad supported Tulayha because they believed they should have a prophet like Quraysh. So there's nothing new or special about a man from the Indian subcontinent claiming prophethood and gaining followers. The only difference was your holy mans claims to prophethood were convenient for British colonial interests in the region, the superpower at the time. The distorted tafseer you gave is just one example of how your leader fought to preserve British colonialism in exchange for their support. Even Mahatma Ghandi is more respectable than the man you call a prophet.
Yes, I am familiar with the false prophet Musaylama. It is not the fact that Ahmadiyyat has followers that I'm asking you to reflect on but rather the continued progress despite severe opposition from some of the richest states in the worlds (I'm looking at Saudi et al) and continued persecution everywhere else. Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan are all hot-beds who've said time and time again they will 'crush' this movement but alas, 120 years on, which is the only movement with it's own dedicated full-time satellite channel propogating purely Islam (Sky Channel 787 FYI) as Dr Zakir Naik testifies,who've been applauded by Islamic Activits for clearing the good name of Islam and our beloved prophet (saw) that's been tainted by the extremists ? My only reason for giving these is not they are proofs of truth but to urge people not to get bought into falsehood but instead consider the significance of someone coming and claiming to be the Mahdi and think and investigate for themselves. Especially given how much the Islamic World was unanimously writing furiously and earnestly yearning for the Mahdi back in the 13th Hijri - when he was prophecized to come.
As for the argument that Ahmadis are declared non-Muslims by the Islamic State of Pakistan, I'm sorry to say this is a statement of such ignorance that it beggars belief. Even many of our opponents today don't mention this as an argument against the Ahmadis because it's an argument that turns around and slaps whoever puts forward this argument. Look at what happened to Bhutto (who declared Ahmadis non-Muslims) - state execution through being hung.
Then look at what happened to Zia (who put forwarded Ordnance XX against Ahmadis) - burnt alive in his plane with nothing left of him (this was prophecized in a friday sermon by the 4th Khalifa of the Ahmadiyya Community just days before... and this sermon is on YouTube). Pakistan is completely at the mercy of Western Nations, rife with bribery, corruption at every level, dire poverty, widespread fraud... one questions just how much following Islam was the reason for this decision of theirs. Here they admit this was purely political to appease many parties, not due to the Ahmadiyya belief. Indeed it proves it places Ahmadiyyat in a category of it's own within Islam - as the 73rd sect, about whom you'll know what the Prophet(saw) said. So please, if you're honest you won't bring this excuse - and it is exactly that that some people's conscience use to excuse themselves from having to accept something they may not personally like, even though it may be the truth - up again.
Come on, to tell me to exit this forum is just unfair ! Re your last statement, please see my previous post. What do you say of those scholars who agree with us? Are they non-Muslims too?For the sake of Allah, ncahd, Ahmadiiya's fake Prophet Qadiani died in a toilet. Please exit this forum as according to the Majority of the world's Scholars Ahmadis are non-Muslim for the simple fact they believe there is another Nabi after the last Nabi Muhammed saws. End of story.
I requested in my last post that baseless rhetoric should cease but unfortunately this continues. To all diligent seekers of truth, I humbly ask you to pay special attention to my next point.
Saraxnow claims - as do many mullahs and clerics who wish to deceive the masses, as they've deceived this individual - that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad died (God forbid) in a toilet. I cannot stress enough how much of a proof of their deceit it is that they say this. They have no proof whatsoever of this and it is a most disgusting allegation that hurts me very much. So TELL ME, who was with him when he died that will testify it was in the toilet? Any writing with any conclusive proof of this? Or just unfounded rants and raves? All those who were with him at his demise state he passed away in his bed. Yes he had to frequent the toilet often but anyone unbiased can easily see this will be the case for one who is in his last days of life when weakness affects the body and mind. Here, allow me to present clear proof of this. When Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) died, Dr Sitherland, Principal of Government Medical College in Lahore was approached for a death certificate by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as)'s companions and this was approved, then issued and authorised by a Civil Surgeon Dr Gillingham who issued a certificate that, due to extreme weakness (and not at all any mention of dysentry), he passed away. So this is a fact and clear evidence for the honest. Then, Allah Almighty showed His mighty sign of support again for in His infinite knowledge and wisdom, he knew this allegation would rear it's ugly head in the future as it does now. So his body was taken to the train garage to be taken to Qadian and there, his opponents lied to the StationMaster stating that because of dysentry he is not able to travel outside of town - and so, believing them, the StationMaster denied them travel of the body. But look what then happened - the death certificate was presented to the StationMaster by his companions, who then subsequently gave the all-clear and the body was taken to Qadian and buried there. Subhan'Allah.
Can you now see how much of a fool the mullahs and clerics are making of their followers and how political this all is in an attempt to rally the masses behind themselves?
Please - make no mistake about the seriousness of what we're talking about here. Allah Almighty has repeated over and over and over in the Qur'an what happens to those who oppose his prophets. This is a matter of serious reflection and investigation if you truly fear God.
May Allah guide the true seekers who wish for His nearness and genuinely empty their hearts and pray to God for the truth. Ameen.
