usama hassan claimes jews/christians are not kaffirs

[DR-YALAXOOW]

a islamic sheikh claimes that jews and christians are not kaffir and some of them can end up in heaven becuase of what allah said on this verse



al-Maa’idah verse 69

Surely, those who believe, those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians – whosoever believed in Allaah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

this sheikh usama hassan hes claimes are based on quran that jews and christians will end up heaven, its unbelievable but this verse is in the quran. .

as may self dr yalaxoow i dont agree or desagree whit him. but what i see the word of allah quraan clearly says jews and christians who work goodness will end up heaven.

[gurey25]

they are mushrikeen not kaafiruun...
there is a difference.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

they are mushrikeen not kaafiruun...
there is a difference.

Hindus and budist are mushrikeen or Polytheist. mushrekeen are those who belief of multiple of gods and goddesses.

but jews anc christians and all so called Abrahamic religions, (Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Baha'i Faith) all belief singel God.

christians are sometimes confused becuase of the Trinity whichs claimes god is three as one. christians could be mushrakeen but jews are strictly monotheistic religion. jews belief singel god. jews do not have trinity like christians. and jews does not belief god have sons like chrisians.

[afisoone]

Here is the wide explanation of the verse.

Those who believe refers to the muslims and those who were jews allah refers those who believe Torah and the sabians[/b ]allah refers sect of the Christians.

If those groups believe in Allah and the last day and do good deeds they shall have no fear and shall they grieve

So please do not confuse the verse my friend. Allah calls the christians and the jews to accept Allah.. by following prophet Muhammed SAW.. Allah is the most well communicator. He informed the muslims who already follow prophet Muhamed and he informs the christians and the jews to obey Allah. If you love Allah you must follow prophet Muhammad saw......
The Christians who believe Jesus is the son of God are kuffaar............ here are the evidence

لَقَدۡ ڪَفَرَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُوٓاْ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ هُوَ ٱلۡمَسِيحُ ٱبۡنُ مَرۡيَمَ‌ۖ وَقَالَ ٱلۡمَسِيحُ

They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary.

Dr.Yalaxoow-----Do not forget we are here and we read the quran and we believe it and we know 100% every meaning of this holy Quran. Do not make thread what you do not know my dr-yalaxoow.

[melo]

Yalaxoow quoting Usama hassan when he fees like it. Do you want to me find you what Usama hassan thinks about your most hated personalities, namely Cabdu wahab and ibn Taymiyyah? If you want to be intellectually consistent, you can't pick and chose what you want from the charlatan known as Usama hassan.

Usama hassan is an aposated. So sad considering his father is one of the best sheikhs in the west. May allah swt bring him back to the path or BREAK HIM.

[melo]

Yalaxoow i want you to answer me a few things. The sahabaah, the imaams of fiqh and imaams of tafsiir mulled over this ayaat long time ago. Do you think its wise to accept opinionns of mordern day pseduo scholars like Usama hassan over people like that? Have you ever head of Naskh before Yalaxoow? Because if you know nothing about the relevation, you would know that these verses came BEFORE the other verses which said that only Islam is acceptable.

Again, Yalaxoow, stop trolling sxb please. One who rejects prophet muhammad is not going to heaven.

[melo]

jews do not have trinity like christians. and jews does not belief god have sons like chrisians.

And allah SWT refutes your statement

"AND THE JEWS SAY UZAIR IS THE SON OF GOD" - Surat Tawba ayat 30


Yalaxoow, stick to other issues.

And even if we agree that it was only the jews in Arabia, the Jews book the talmud is full of blasphemy.

[Enlightened~Sista]

They are Ahl Al Kitaab or People of the Book/Scriptures.They believe in God and worship him so they are not kaafiroun; but there are some who associate others with God. { Like Jesus }

[The_Patriot]

Suratul Bayinah

[DR-YALAXOOW]

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Usama hassan is an aposated. So sad considering his father is one of the best sheikhs in the west. May allah swt bring him back to the path or BREAK HIM.

One of biggest mistakes of people like you wahhabis is takfirism, to jump on declaration of someones been apostate.
wahhabis cult followers have no right what so ever to judge people. its Only ALLAH the creator who have that authority who's Muslims and who's not.

Usama hassan is 100% Muslim, as long as the person witness there are no god than Allah and Mohamed is the prophet scw then that person for me is 1000% Muslim.

The sahabaah, the imaams of fiqh and imaams of tafsiir mulled over this ayaat long time ago. Do you think its wise to accept opinionns of mordern day pseduo scholars like Usama hassan over people like that? Have you ever head of Naskh before Yalaxoow? Because if you know nothing about the relevation, you would know that these verses came BEFORE the other verses which said that only Islam is acceptable.

Again, Yalaxoow, stop trolling sxb please. One who rejects prophet muhammad is not going to heaven.

the imams of fiqh writters and other people who make tafsiir on the quran are human like you and me and like mr hassan , they are suddenly not god send prophets.

people like ibn kathiir and other people who made tafsiiir of the quran have a right to make tafsiir which based on their knowledge but that tafsiir itself does not mean its god send tafsiir.

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arrinta ninkaan odayga sh usama hassan ? yes mr hassan is a controversial like what MR HASSAN SAID ABOUR EVOLATION, yes its controversal but walaahi its nothing compare if you read some fiqhi books which IMAAMS wrote hounred of years ago. IMAAM SHAAFICI. axmed xambali and imaamyo kale:-
TUSAALE i have some fiqhi books which was written bye imaam shaafici and axmed xammbali about how to sell and buy slaves, and A SLAVE OWNER can HAVE sex whit hes slaves even young as 7 years old slave girl .

those fiqhi books which was written by great IMAAMS would be consider today 2011 very low morality because today's society its not ok to have sex slave young as 7 year old girl, but 700 years ago imaams time was allowed and people in that was normal thing to have slave and sex slave young as 7 years old.

so mr hassan too is human too as imaam xanbali was both are not Allah send nabiyaal. so if mr hassan make tafsiiir of quraan he have rightes to do that, it may sound controversial but its not worst than imaam who belief that you can own 7 years old slave girl and rape here.

[melo]

One of biggest mistakes of people like you wahhabis is takfirism, to jump on declaration of someones been apostate.
wahhabis cult followers have no right what so ever to judge people. its Only ALLAH the creator who have that authority who's Muslims and who's not.

Usama hassan is 100% Muslim, as long as the person witness there are no god than Allah and Mohamed is the prophet scw then that person for me is 1000% Muslim.

It is actually a bigger fitnah not to promote the fact that Usama hasan is a kaafir. The reason being that he'll misguide people if people aren't made aware.

And no, the issue of takfir is there. When one makes an utterance of kufr, he is told to repent after having it explained to him. If he does not repent, he is declared a kaafir.

If a muslim worships a saint and asks him for things, he is adviced first. Usama hasan has been advised about his kufri statements and he continues with them.

Prove to me that only Allah SWT can make takfiir. I can show you the prophet, sahabah and imaams making takfir of individuals and groups.


As for your other gibberish, Usama hasan is a novice compared to these guys. Its like a new scientest without any real grounding, coming in and trying to disprove all the other established statements. You put his statement up against the other scholars and then you evaluate. Usama hasan's understanding of Arabic and fiqh is not at the level of even the most novice scholar in the past. He never studied the religion formally, but only under his father who disagrees with him in every way. To try and use him as proof is absurd. There is ample enough of proof in the Quran to disprove this.

What the mufasssireen concluded, is that these verses were abrogated by later verses that closed the door on the kitaab. There are numerous verses which state that only ISLAM is the way to paradise, and that belief is only achieved by accepting the prophet saw as your nabi. The jews and Christians rejected the prophet and thus the door for paradise is closed for them.

Heck, surah bayyinah start with "lam yakuniladhiina kafaruu min AHL-KITAAB".

You have 3 options

1- The quran is contradictory- Absolute kufr
2- Accept my proposition that the verse you quoted was abrogated and the doors were closed on the ahl-kitaab
3- Prove that the verse you quoted came AFTER the dozen or so verses which explicitly call christian and jews kaafirs, and which state that only Islaam and the acceptance of muhammad saw is the way to paradise



I am not doing this to convince you anymore, because you are soo deep in absolute shirk and kufr that the Shaytaan would eny you, but i am doing this for people who might read this and get confused your rubbish.

[LobsterUnit]

Typical Dr Yalaxow post: " find an article/topic, google a pic or two, add some of his incoherent rants to it, curse a little bit , and then quote the quran to give it a finishing it".

[melo]

"And whoever seeks a religion other than islam, it will never be accepted of him" [Aal `Imraan 3:85]

That isnt even touching upon the axaadith, which have the prophet explictly stating that you can only get to Jannah by accepting him as the last prophet.

According to a saheeh hadeeth: "By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, there is no one among this ummah, Jew or Christian, who hears of me than dies without believing in that with which I have been sent, but he will be one of the people of Hellfire."

And obviously one of the more famous hadiths, in which the prophet discusses the one who REFUSES to enter paradise. This refusal is based on not following the prophet saws as he notes in the hadith.

Now yalaxoow will come and dismiss the ahadith, but one wants to ask him, how he prays, makes wudhu, makes hajj, and knows what breaks the fast and what doesn't. Clearly, he must have an alternative route to access to these rulings.

Or is it that yalaxoow picks and choses what Xadiith he uses? And if this is true, does anyone know how he goes about accepting and rejecting hadith. Me thinks his desires guide him in accepting and rejecting ahadiith. This is the trait of secularists and baatiniyyah.

[melo]

Typical Dr Yalaxow post: " find an article/topic, google a pic or two, add some of his incoherent rants to it, curse a little bit , and then quote the quran to give it a finishing it".

He is beyond convincing as his master is ibliis. I stopped debating with this guy, but then came back because he might confuse some people with his kufr. This is the danger of internet forums.. anyone can be reading.

[LobsterUnit]

^^last time he started a thread campaigning for kanisado in mecca and medina. I am just waiting for the day he says you can make wudoo with khamri