I agree 100% Mullah Nadir Ahmed

[grandpakhalif]

Nationalism is an of enemy of Islam

[BlackVelvet]

Shall we have another Ottoman empire then and have the TURKS occupy everyone else's land?

Afghanis and Somalis should be the last people to complain about nationalism, the whole bloody country is dedicated to your ethnicity.

[grandpakhalif]

Shall we have another Ottoman empire then and have the TURKS occupy everyone else's land?

Afghanis and Somalis should be the last people to complain about nationalism, the whole bloody country is dedicated to your ethnicity.

We must give up the idea of nationalism because it is exactly what is dividing us. Quran says not to be divided, and several hadeeth talk against the disease of nationalism. Is the word of Allah and the messenger of Allah not enough for us ? If we take a look at current problems of Ummah, among other problems, it is obvious that we're divided, and therefore weak.

Look what Prophet said

" ...People should give up their pride in nations because this is a coal from the coals of hell-fire. If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than a lowly worm which pushes itself through khur (feces)." [abu Dawd and Tirmidhi].

[BlackVelvet]

That's disgusting

The worm is Allah's creation too is it not? I have come across far too many odd Tirmidhi haddiths these days.

Anyway, I like the ayat in the Quran that says that we were made into nations and tribes so that we may know one other.

Maybe the problem with Afghanistan is their lack of nationalism? Have you considered that? Why have they been unable to maintain any form of stability for the past 30+yrs. They have been unable to break free from any of their puppet masters. If they had a strong nation, like China, no one would mess with them. They would even be better than China because they're all Afghanis and are all Muslim so they would be able to protect themselves and practise Islam peacefully.

[Bulletz]

Yo why the FUCK you putting the Djibouti flag just because your flopping and failing don't mean you need to put your father Ciise down

[grandpakhalif]

Actually Afghanistan and Somalia both have a very similar history both countries were subject to bruta,l marxist, atheist communist regimes and after a major war (SOMALI OGADEN/ SOVIET INVASION) fell into civil war where tribal fiefdoms fought over resources.

Then came rise of two honourable movements UIC/Al Mujahideen and Taliban / Al Shabab. Both offshoots of each other.

Both movements are interconnected today and are the only non corrupt Shareeca countries until US/ ethiopian invasion.

Afghanistan and Somalia are the pride of the ummah today

[BlackVelvet]

Afghanistan and Somalia are the pride of the ummah today

Nice one. You are an adorable kid Grandpa

[grandpakhalif]

You cannot bring foward any substantial argument to support nationalism, so you resort to patronization.

[Bulletz]

Why r u using the Djibouti flag?? Answer me dat kid

[BlackVelvet]

You cannot bring foward any substantial argument to support nationalism, so you resort to patronization.

I apologise if I come across as patronising lakin you really are adorable and that is not my fault

Afghanistan and Somalia are failed states. If Al Shabab's and the Taliban are your beacons of hope for Islam then clearly your hope for the deen is at an all time low.

[grandpakhalif]

No offense sister you are very ignorant! Afghanistan was made a fail state by who ? 1996-2001 Afghanistan had a fully functioning government but it was destabilized by the West just because they refused to submiy to their demands ! Somalia had a fully functioning government in 2006 for 6 months and was destabilized by US funded Ethiopians!

Yes they're are the pride of the ummah today, they are the only willing participants of jihad and God bless them

[union]

Mullah black beard is asking for a drone attack.

[BlackVelvet]

No offense sister you are very ignorant! Afghanistan was made a fail state by who ? 1996-2001 Afghanistan had a fully functioning government but it was destabilized by the West just because they refused to submiy to their demands ! Somalia had a fully functioning government in 2006 for 6 months and was destabilized by US funded Ethiopians!

Yes they're are the pride of the ummah today, they are the only willing participants of jihad and God bless them

So Somalia is the pride of all the Muslims in the world today because out of the 20yrs of lawlessness we managed to have ICU for 6 months in a few cities in the south? And Afghanistan because the Talibans managed to deny their female citizens the basic rights that Islam grants them?

Jihaad isn't just having the will to go blow yourself up at a graduation ceremony or being eager to stone someone to death. Raise your standards waraa. What happened to Muslims now are all crap and I will join the Mahdi when he comes thing that you were on? That made more sense.

[grandpakhalif]

loooool I knew you'd pull out the feminist and suicide bomb card. Look Suicide operations have never been taken to be responsible by Al Shabab, we know this.Second of all Taliban treated women absolutely within in Islam, some Western lobby group spins stories and you blindly eat it up.

About the Mahdi, you westernized muslims are hallucinating if you think the obligation of jihad has somehow disappeared, look here Prophet said jihad will continue until day of judgement. if I was a bit older and had beeso wallahi I would be with my brothers in a heartbeat.

[BlackVelvet]

You are not familiar with the policies of the very people you say you support.

Well anyway, I am glad that God has decided to protect you by making you young and broke.