Al Shabab should be wiped out

[SultanOrder]

THESE ARE THE NUMBER ONE ENEMY TO SOMALIS AND ISLAM IN SOMALIA

[quark]

[udun]

The extremists (Ahmed Abdi Godane and his crew) should be dealth with by the whole country of Somalia. We should all take part the defeat of the extremists in one way or another.

Those who are pragmatists and have Somalia-focused agenda should be brought in to a negotiated settlement.

[tightrope]

[Executive]

sick people

[Cumar-Labasuul]

The greatest way to defeat a group is from within, the leaders may be sick men but it's the soldiers (who are young brain-washed boys might I add) who do the damage and if they left then the leaders couldn't do a damn thing.

[UlteriorMotive]

I mean there are alot of people who agree with you on this point. But the question is how?
We can't face them head on in xamar because they just blend in with shacabka and terrorise covertly. We can't do the same because we actually have morals and would not blow up mosques attended by al-shabab members.

[Salahuddiin]

I have a serious question that I’d like to have an answer to it from you or anyone with similar mindset:

This attack by al-Shabaab wasn’t obviously targeting civilians, but TFG. In news-article it was stated that targeted building was housing eight ministries, almost 50% of whole TFG. So any civilian that that was caught in this, died as collateral damage without being the actual target. When I say ‘collateral damage’ I’m not in any way downplaying the significance and tragedy of civilian casualties, AUN to every Muslim civilian who died and may Allah give them Janna. Attack in a busy time like this is wrong and tragic mistake, regardless was it either intentional or unintentional (bomb exploding prematurely).

USA does similar raids very often and sometimes several times a week shooting missiles from the air targeting specific target even though they could be (and many times are) surrounded by civilians. Muslim civilian casualties from these raids are hundreds of times higher than from any attacks by Muslims, and also in Somalia there have been several drone attacks in last few weeks. I also remember in 2006-07 about 60 camel herders were killed in a single strike that was supposed to target Aadan Cayrow AUN who wasn’t even there.

So intentional and unintentional mistakes happen in the war. My question is that I have noticed unlimited understanding towards the kuffaar muxaaribiin, while when a Muslim does wrong and lives are lost there is a hurdle of 'lacanahumullah, let’s fight them, may Allah destroy them' –type of comments, while murderous raids perpetrated by Americans are met even in most extreme cases with condemnation like ‘oh, that’s wrong and I disagree’ instead of ‘may Allah destroy US gov and army, let’s fight them and wipe them out, etc.’

Why this very different attitude towards these two groups when they perpetrate similar act; extremely negative and hostile towards Muslims and same time excessively hopeful and forgiving towards kuffar?

[FAH1223]

I have a serious question that I’d like to have an answer to it from you or anyone with similar mindset:

This attack by al-Shabaab wasn’t obviously targeting civilians, but TFG. In news-article it was stated that targeted building was housing eight ministries, almost 50% of whole TFG. So any civilian that that was caught in this, died as collateral damage without being the actual target. When I say ‘collateral damage’ I’m not in any way downplaying the significance and tragedy of civilian casualties, AUN to every Muslim civilian who died and may Allah give them Janna. Attack in a busy time like this is wrong and tragic mistake, regardless was it either intentional or unintentional (bomb exploding prematurely).

USA does similar raids very often and sometimes several times a week shooting missiles from the air targeting specific target even though they could be (and many times are) surrounded by civilians. Muslim civilian casualties from these raids are hundreds of times higher than from any attacks by Muslims, and also in Somalia there have been several drone attacks in last few weeks. I also remember in 2006-07 about 60 camel herders were killed in a single strike that was supposed to target Aadan Cayrow AUN who wasn’t even there.

So intentional and unintentional mistakes happen in the war. My question is that I have noticed unlimited understanding towards the kuffaar muxaaribiin, while when a Muslim does wrong and lives are lost there is a hurdle of 'lacanahumullah, let’s fight them, may Allah destroy them' –type of comments, while murderous raids perpetrated by Americans are met even in most extreme cases with condemnation like ‘oh, that’s wrong and I disagree’ instead of ‘may Allah destroy US gov and army, let’s fight them and wipe them out, etc.’

Why this very different attitude towards these two groups when they perpetrate similar act; extremely negative and hostile towards Muslims and same time excessively hopeful and forgiving towards kuffar?

Cause if you are a true Mujahid, you fight with the clear guidelines from Allah and his Rasul SAW. In other words, we expect better from a group "fighting for Islam"... America and all them are gaalo, so we expect the disregard for human rights and dignity in warfare. But when its your own Muslim brethern supposedly fighting for the deen and against people and institutions which you just mentioned, you have a right to get even more pissed off

[greenday]

Anyone who even thinks something can come out of them just loves Somali blood

[XimanJaale]

I have a serious question that I’d like to have an answer to it from you or anyone with similar mindset:

This attack by al-Shabaab wasn’t obviously targeting civilians, but TFG. In news-article it was stated that targeted building was housing eight ministries, almost 50% of whole TFG. So any civilian that that was caught in this, died as collateral damage without being the actual target. When I say ‘collateral damage’ I’m not in any way downplaying the significance and tragedy of civilian casualties, AUN to every Muslim civilian who died and may Allah give them Janna. Attack in a busy time like this is wrong and tragic mistake, regardless was it either intentional or unintentional (bomb exploding prematurely).

USA does similar raids very often and sometimes several times a week shooting missiles from the air targeting specific target even though they could be (and many times are) surrounded by civilians. Muslim civilian casualties from these raids are hundreds of times higher than from any attacks by Muslims, and also in Somalia there have been several drone attacks in last few weeks. I also remember in 2006-07 about 60 camel herders were killed in a single strike that was supposed to target Aadan Cayrow AUN who wasn’t even there.

So intentional and unintentional mistakes happen in the war. My question is that I have noticed unlimited understanding towards the kuffaar muxaaribiin, while when a Muslim does wrong and lives are lost there is a hurdle of 'lacanahumullah, let’s fight them, may Allah destroy them' –type of comments, while murderous raids perpetrated by Americans are met even in most extreme cases with condemnation like ‘oh, that’s wrong and I disagree’ instead of ‘may Allah destroy US gov and army, let’s fight them and wipe them out, etc.’

Why this very different attitude towards these two groups when they perpetrate similar act; extremely negative and hostile towards Muslims and same time excessively hopeful and forgiving towards kuffar?

Cause if you are a true Mujahid, you fight with the clear guidelines from Allah and his Rasul SAW. In other words, we expect better from a group "fighting for Islam"... America and all them are gaalo, so we expect the disregard for human rights and dignity in warfare. But when its your own Muslim brethern supposedly fighting for the deen and against people and institutions which you just mentioned, you have a right to get even more pissed off

Exactly! Mashallah, these ignorant brainwashed people need to start thinking like you.

[quark]

I have a serious question that I’d like to have an answer to it from you or anyone with similar mindset:

This attack by al-Shabaab wasn’t obviously targeting civilians, but TFG. In news-article it was stated that targeted building was housing eight ministries, almost 50% of whole TFG. So any civilian that that was caught in this, died as collateral damage without being the actual target. When I say ‘collateral damage’ I’m not in any way downplaying the significance and tragedy of civilian casualties, AUN to every Muslim civilian who died and may Allah give them Janna. Attack in a busy time like this is wrong and tragic mistake, regardless was it either intentional or unintentional (bomb exploding prematurely).

USA does similar raids very often and sometimes several times a week shooting missiles from the air targeting specific target even though they could be (and many times are) surrounded by civilians. Muslim civilian casualties from these raids are hundreds of times higher than from any attacks by Muslims, and also in Somalia there have been several drone attacks in last few weeks. I also remember in 2006-07 about 60 camel herders were killed in a single strike that was supposed to target Aadan Cayrow AUN who wasn’t even there.

So intentional and unintentional mistakes happen in the war. My question is that I have noticed unlimited understanding towards the kuffaar muxaaribiin, while when a Muslim does wrong and lives are lost there is a hurdle of 'lacanahumullah, let’s fight them, may Allah destroy them' –type of comments, while murderous raids perpetrated by Americans are met even in most extreme cases with condemnation like ‘oh, that’s wrong and I disagree’ instead of ‘may Allah destroy US gov and army, let’s fight them and wipe them out, etc.’

Why this very different attitude towards these two groups when they perpetrate similar act; extremely negative and hostile towards Muslims and same time excessively hopeful and forgiving towards kuffar?

Cause if you are a true Mujahid, you fight with the clear guidelines from Allah and his Rasul SAW. In other words, we expect better from a group "fighting for Islam"... America and all them are gaalo, so we expect the disregard for human rights and dignity in warfare. But when its your own Muslim brethern supposedly fighting for the deen and against people and institutions which you just mentioned, you have a right to get even more pissed off

well said

[UlteriorMotive]

I have a serious question that I’d like to have an answer to it from you or anyone with similar mindset:

This attack by al-Shabaab wasn’t obviously targeting civilians, but TFG. In news-article it was stated that targeted building was housing eight ministries, almost 50% of whole TFG. So any civilian that that was caught in this, died as collateral damage without being the actual target. When I say ‘collateral damage’ I’m not in any way downplaying the significance and tragedy of civilian casualties, AUN to every Muslim civilian who died and may Allah give them Janna. Attack in a busy time like this is wrong and tragic mistake, regardless was it either intentional or unintentional (bomb exploding prematurely).

USA does similar raids very often and sometimes several times a week shooting missiles from the air targeting specific target even though they could be (and many times are) surrounded by civilians. Muslim civilian casualties from these raids are hundreds of times higher than from any attacks by Muslims, and also in Somalia there have been several drone attacks in last few weeks. I also remember in 2006-07 about 60 camel herders were killed in a single strike that was supposed to target Aadan Cayrow AUN who wasn’t even there.

So intentional and unintentional mistakes happen in the war. My question is that I have noticed unlimited understanding towards the kuffaar muxaaribiin, while when a Muslim does wrong and lives are lost there is a hurdle of 'lacanahumullah, let’s fight them, may Allah destroy them' –type of comments, while murderous raids perpetrated by Americans are met even in most extreme cases with condemnation like ‘oh, that’s wrong and I disagree’ instead of ‘may Allah destroy US gov and army, let’s fight them and wipe them out, etc.’

Why this very different attitude towards these two groups when they perpetrate similar act; extremely negative and hostile towards Muslims and same time excessively hopeful and forgiving towards kuffar?

Salahuddin...you have acknowledged that the timing and place of the attack almost guaranteed civilian deaths. Can this be justfied on any islamic grounds?
Of course the gaalo attackes are not any less reprehensible but they operate on different ideology i.e 'the ends justifies the means'. What logic are you using to measure yourself against gaalo ethics. I believe 'collateral damage' is an american term. Why are we adopting western philophies and terms whilst fighting them? Don't we have islamic principles which forbids us to the blood of the ummah unjustly? Is it just that muslim people who have faced terrible hardships for over 20 years are not allowed to fast, conduct business or get an education in peace?

Also, you neglect the fact that drone attacks are a result of shabab's tactics. I don't think they were carried out prior to the rise of shabab. Chicken and egg my friend.

[NoAngst.]

Why this very different attitude towards these two groups when they perpetrate similar act; extremely negative and hostile towards Muslims and same time excessively hopeful and forgiving towards kuffar?

Your question is contrived and dishonest which is understandable given that you're Alshabaab sympathiser. I'm not here to defend the West but Somalis say "gaalka dil gartiisana sii."

We can disapprove of Western attrocities in the Islamic world but we can't deny that Western Armies adhere to strict international Laws of War which prohibit the deliberate targeting of civilians. This is why you won't find atrocities by the West that are analogous to those of Alshabaab or those of the any one of the motley Wahabi death gangs around. A Western pilot may mistakenly drop a bomb on a bus full of civilians but Wahabi butchers like Alshabaab will meticolously plan the bombing of the bus with the full knowledge that the bus is full of civilisans. THAT IS THE QUALITATIVE DIFFERENCE.

Alshabaab and the likes know before the excution that they're targeting civilians.

[SahanGalbeed]

Good job y'all answering that individual .