the role of saints in Islam

[Twist]

Back in the early 90's, markuu dagaalku bilowga ahaa, waxaan u qaxnay magaalo Saalixiya ay very popular ka tahay & when adults doing their digri task anagana dhoocilahaan gaad-gaadi jirnay. Caruurnimo is funny!

[Lamagoodle]

Back in the early 90's, markuu dagaalku bilowga ahaa, waxaan u qaxnay magaalo Saalixiya ay very popular ka tahay & when adults doing their digri task anagana dhoocilahaan gaad-gaadi jirnay. Caruurnimo is funny!

Baardheere? Beledul aamin? waayo jidka kismaayo u socda (from Marka) waa qaadiriya-land (xirta sheekh nuur xuseen at the xaramka).

I was in the NFD and dikri is becoming extint. Walaahi, gar dhuubayaasha meel waliba waay tageen. First, they came for our saar, then our digri .

[Alphanumeric]

Get your chasers sorted dude. The hard liquor's doing all the talking.

[Grant]

Some short biographies:

http://islamic-saints.blogspot.com/

[udun]

I remember these claims from Suufiya:

Madad yaa Jeylaani Agithnaa yaguufu This was outright shirk.

C/Qaadir Jeylaani Dhulka ayuu taako taako ugu jiraa This was outright shirk.

I remember Qaadiriya not praying Jameeca with the rest of the Muslims. They used to pray by themselves when the rest of the Muslims go to the mosque.

I remember Qaadiriya asking for material and financial support, and if you say "Alle ha sahlo," and basically said no to their request, they used to start cursing you and said this will happen to you, that will happen to you.

Subxaanallaah waar Alle ummada waa uga reeyey oo dad diin yaqaana baa yimid.

We would have reminded in jaahiliya if things continue as they were with suufiya being the dominant religious group in Somalia. Alle baa mahad leh oo kuwaas naga soo gaaray.

[Lamagoodle]

I remember these claims from Suufiya:

Madad yaa Jeylaani Agithnaa yaguufu This was outright shirk.

C/Qaadir Jeylaani Dhulka ayuu taako taako ugu jiraa This was outright shirk.

I remember Qaadiriya not praying Jameeca with the rest of the Muslims. They used to pray by themselves when the rest of the Muslims go to the mosque.

I remember Qaadiriya asking for material and financial support, and if you say "Alle ha sahlo," and basically said no to their request, they used to start cursing you and said this will happen to you, that will happen to you.

Subxaanallaah waar Alle ummada waa uga reeyey oo dad diin yaqaana baa yimid.

We would have reminded in jaahiliya if things continue as they were with suufiya being the dominant religious group in Somalia. Alle baa mahad leh oo kuwaas naga soo gaaray.

Kaligii/kaligeed muslim. Adigu taada ka adkaaw!

What makes you think your wahabist approach is the right one??????

Walaahi I am sick and tired of this nation of preachers, hypocrites and faith abusers.
That is what Somalis are. You cannot engage in a conversation with a Somali online, on the street or at home without getting involved in religion. I wouldn’t mind if the preacher is a pious person who has gained a degree in Islamic studies or someone who at least commands a life that is based on the teachings of islam.

Somalis abuse Islam. It is the bogeyman to be called on when there is an intellectual bankruptcy. You will meet a murderer, a thief, a drug add, qat addict, a welfare cheat etc invoke the Islamic card when caught red handed. Islam comes into contention when logic fails, as a last resort to silence someone.

[Saraxnow]

^Caadi iska dhig

[AwdalPrince]

It is well accepted that there is such a thing as a Waliyallah, someone who is of nearness and closeness to Allah. Some have attributed supernatural events happening due to this nearness with Allah. Yet, some also deny miracles happening. What is the role of wali's in Islam in relationship to the muslim ummah?

It depends on which version? If you speak of the Sufi mystic Wali system then it is nothing more than a political disguise to steal people's money, in essence it is 100% fraud. It was designed as a scheme to generate income from the ignorant masses. The perpetrators are very smart for conning the general public for very long, especially since this was a phenomenon that occured not only in Somalia but all over the Muslim World. Guys who wear long robes, with eyes cast on the floor carrying rosary beads who always have companions kissing their hands is the clearest sign of this fraud.
I personally admire the wit and cunning, even though their practice is and always was detestable to say the least but the fact that they convinced so many that their link to Allah is of a more superior and supernatural level than others is impressive to say the least. However like all false things, it must come to an end and it's slow demise came with the birth of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab (ra) which leads me to inform you of the correct uderstanding.

Allah Himself talks about the what it is to be a Wali of Allah, He says: "Indeed the Awliya of Allah shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.... Those who believe and who are conscience (of their Lord)." (Surah Yunus).

It's actually pretty simple, a Wali of Allah is someone who believes and fears Him... khalas. The equation is actually that simple. And this is the understanding that was given by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab much to the detriment and anger of the Sufis. But it still baffles me how this simple formula was turned into a systematic institution of accumulating wealth for generations via deciet and cunning. Very impressive but alas, the Wahhabis won

[Enlightened~Sista]

Allah Himself talks about the what it is to be a Wali of Allah, He says: "Indeed the Awliya of Allah shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.... Those who believe and who are conscience (of their Lord)." (Surah Yunus).

It's actually pretty simple, a Wali of Allah is someone who believes and fears Him... khalas. The equation is actually that simple.

[SultanOrder]

awdal your jokes, I can't take you seriously

[Shirib]

Can I proclaim myself a wali? Sheik Shirib WaliyuAllah

[SultanOrder]

Can I proclaim myself a wali? Sheik Shirib WaliyuAllah

You can proclaim yourself God, but is it the truth? A wali has to fulfill certain requirements, that is a muslim, one that follows the shariah to the t in private and public, has courtesy with allah and muslims. And then still he maybe just a really good believer but may not be a wali, which is known to Allah. But if someone claims to be so, and does not fulfill the requirements then he isn't one.

[Shirib]

Can I proclaim myself a wali? Sheik Shirib WaliyuAllah

You can proclaim yourself God, but is it the truth? A wali has to fulfill certain requirements, that is a muslim, one that follows the shariah to the t in private and public, has courtesy with allah and muslims. And then still he maybe just a really good believer but may not be a wali, which is known to Allah. But if someone claims to be so, and does not fulfill the requirements then he isn't one.

so how do u know if someone really is a wali?

[Shirib]

I remember these claims from Suufiya:

Madad yaa Jeylaani Agithnaa yaguufu This was outright shirk.

C/Qaadir Jeylaani Dhulka ayuu taako taako ugu jiraa This was outright shirk.

I remember Qaadiriya not praying Jameeca with the rest of the Muslims. They used to pray by themselves when the rest of the Muslims go to the mosque.

I remember Qaadiriya asking for material and financial support, and if you say "Alle ha sahlo," and basically said no to their request, they used to start cursing you and said this will happen to you, that will happen to you.

Subxaanallaah waar Alle ummada waa uga reeyey oo dad diin yaqaana baa yimid.

We would have reminded in jaahiliya if things continue as they were with suufiya being the dominant religious group in Somalia. Alle baa mahad leh oo kuwaas naga soo gaaray.

Kaligii/kaligeed muslim. Adigu taada ka adkaaw!

What makes you think your wahabist approach is the right one??????

Walaahi I am sick and tired of this nation of preachers, hypocrites and faith abusers.
That is what Somalis are. You cannot engage in a conversation with a Somali online, on the street or at home without getting involved in religion. I wouldn’t mind if the preacher is a pious person who has gained a degree in Islamic studies or someone who at least commands a life that is based on the teachings of islam.

Somalis abuse Islam. It is the bogeyman to be called on when there is an intellectual bankruptcy. You will meet a murderer, a thief, a drug add, qat addict, a welfare cheat etc invoke the Islamic card when caught red handed. Islam comes into contention when logic fails, as a last resort to silence someone.

trynna see where the rant fits, not really getting it

[SultanOrder]

Can I proclaim myself a wali? Sheik Shirib WaliyuAllah

You can proclaim yourself God, but is it the truth? A wali has to fulfill certain requirements, that is a muslim, one that follows the shariah to the t in private and public, has courtesy with allah and muslims. And then still he maybe just a really good believer but may not be a wali, which is known to Allah. But if someone claims to be so, and does not fulfill the requirements then he isn't one.

so how do u know if someone really is a wali?

dead or alive?