Major Scholars: Mixed University is haram!

Postby **FAH1223** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:59 am

Mr. FAH I'm well aware of the liberal trash in Egypt, the brothers advised me to avoid tourist areas and stick to the more conservative ends of Cairo.

what program are you doing? have you checked anything in Alexandria at all? I think Alexandria is a better place to study as there is less stuff to distract you from personal experience

fighter · Postby **fighter** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:59 am

I find these Wahhabis/Salafis to be very disrespectful not only towards people but God.

They have these ridiculous rulings that make no sense. If they cant work in their cities, what makes them so sure it can work for Muslims in the West? They can't even work in Somalia.

Khadija, Muhammad (pbuh)'s wife, was a business woman and she was dealing with men and women. Aisha took a ride from a stranger (a man) after a battle ended back into the city. Here r fine examples of the prophets wives being in the presence of men.

These people act as if God is a very strict, unreasoning God. He's not. Allah is a God of understanding. Its perfectly fine for men and women to be in mixed universities; especially in the West. And we don't need some backwards illiterate scholars telling us contradictions.

These r the same jerks that forbide women to be indepedent business women. Women are not even allowed to sell bras in Saudi Arabia for goodness sake. But the Quran and Islam tells us Khadija was an independent business woman who travelled around the Middle East (ALONE) for business purposes. And a WOMAN who dealt with MEN ALONE in her business dealings.

Tell these jerk idiotic scholars to jump off a birdge. Any intelligent person will not listen to these animals.

Postby **FAH1223** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:01 am

I find these Wahhabis/Salafis to be very disrespectful not only towards people but God.

They have these ridiculous rulings that make no sense. If they cant work in their cities, what makes them so sure it can work for Muslims in the West? They can't even work in Somalia.

Khadija, Muhammad (pbuh)'s wife, was a business woman and she was dealing with men and women. Aisha took a ride from a stranger (a man) after a battle ended back into the city. Here r fine examples of the prophets wives being in the presence of men.

These people act as if God is a very strict, unreasoning God. He's not. Allah is a God of understanding. Its perfectly fine for men and women to be in mixed universities; especially in the West. And we don't need some backwards illiterate scholars telling us contradictions.

These r the same jerks that forbide women to be indepedent business women. Women are not even allowed to sell bras in Saudi Arabia for goodness sake. But the Quran and Islam tells us Khadija was an independent business woman who travelled around the Middle East (ALONE) for business purposes. And a WOMAN who dealt with MEN ALONE in her business dealings.

Tell these jerk idiotic scholars to jump off a birdge. Any intelligent person will not listen to these animals.

إسلام لكل المكان و الزمان

Nanees · Postby **Nanees** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:03 am

I find these Wahhabis/Salafis to be very disrespectful not only towards people but God.

They have these ridiculous rulings that make no sense. If they cant work in their cities, what makes them so sure it can work for Muslims in the West? They can't even work in Somalia.

Khadija, Muhammad (pbuh)'s wife, was a business woman and she was dealing with men and women. Aisha took a ride from a stranger (a man) after a battle ended back into the city. Here r fine examples of the prophets wives being in the presence of men.

These people act as if God is a very strict, unreasoning God. He's not. Allah is a God of understanding. Its perfectly fine for men and women to be in mixed universities; especially in the West. And we don't need some backwards illiterate scholars telling us contradictions.

These r the same jerks that forbide women to be indepedent business women. Women are not even allowed to sell bras in Saudi Arabia for goodness sake. But the Quran and Islam tells us Khadija was an independent business woman who travelled around the Middle East (ALONE) for business purposes. And a WOMAN who dealt with MEN ALONE in her business dealings.

Tell these jerk idiotic scholars to jump off a birdge. Any intelligent person will not listen to these animals.

grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:05 am

They have these ridiculous rulings that make no sense. If they cant work in their cities, what makes them so sure it can work for Muslims in the West? They can't even work in Somalia.

Who says they don't work in their cities?

Khadija, Muhammad (pbuh)'s wife, was a business woman and she was dealing with men and women. Aisha took a ride from a stranger (a man) after a battle ended back into the city. Here r fine examples of the prophets wives being in the presence of men.

Don't make lies upon Khadija she never did intermixxing, she worked through proxies via Prophet Mohammad (SAW).
Second of all Aisha (RA) was alone in the desert abandoned by her caravan, was the sahabi supposed to let her die? Second of all, the response of the people were ill-intenionted rumours, due to one instance! Look how they scrutinized every situation of intermixing until Allah interceded for her. This shows how serious they took intermixxing.

These people act as if God is a very strict, unreasoning God. He's not. Allah is a God of understanding. Its perfectly fine for men and women to be in mixed universities; especially in the West. And we don't need some backwards illiterate scholars telling us contradictions.

I think the scholars know more about Allah then you do.

These r the same jerks that forbide women to be indepedent business women. Women are not even allowed to sell bras in Saudi Arabia for goodness sake. But the Quran and Islam tells us Khadija was an independent business woman who travelled around the Middle East (ALONE) for business purposes. And a WOMAN who dealt with MEN ALONE in her business dealings.

Khadija (RA) did not deal alone, plus that was before the advent of Islam, so your view holds no water

Tell these jerk idiotic scholars to jump off a birdge. Any intelligent person will not listen to these animals.

Learn to respect the scholars, and their status in Islam.

Keyblade · Postby **Keyblade** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:06 am

Alhamdullilah, I know now with certainty that such a place is forbidden for me and Allah will not punish or be angry with me for abandoning such an evil place. Inshallah, 6 months from now I am in Egypt studying as a student of knowledge.

you let your parents know about this?

grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:08 am

SMH at them cheerleading for this xisbi who insulted the culuma. The ones whom Allah mentioned has having the most taqwa. Wallahi I fear for these people on the Day of Judgement.

grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:12 am

Alhamdullilah, I know now with certainty that such a place is forbidden for me and Allah will not punish or be angry with me for abandoning such an evil place. Inshallah, 6 months from now I am in Egypt studying as a student of knowledge.
you let your parents know about this?

yah, theres no obedience to the creation over the creator.

Keyblade · Postby **Keyblade** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:14 am

yah or nah? and you were singing quite a different tune not too long ago, something about obeying your parents no matter what, or how ignorant they are

grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:15 am

yah or nah? and you were singing quite a different tune not too long ago, something about obeying your parents no matter what, or how ignorant they are

because I wasn't sure it was haram now I know it. It is like ur parents telling you to drink wine, are you goin to obey? no.

Keyblade · Postby **Keyblade** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:17 am

nanees said the exact same thing to you, but we can't listen to her now can we?

fighter · Postby **fighter** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:18 am

Grandpakhalif,

Everyone is aware she had workers and people she sent to do some of her work. That is known.

But she inherited her wealth and businesses from her father. A woman, an independent woman like Khadija, the inheriter of her fathers wealth and businesses, didn't directly deal with men who r her customers??? Is that what you are saying?????

Its people like YOU who create falsehoods. You people r a cancer to society.

Women should be following Khadija, not these idiotic scholars.

Arabia didn't progress at all. We have the independent strong women like Khadija and a 1000 years later, the Arab women are being forced in their homes and stay there all day and are treated like toddlers. Don't feed us your bullcrap!!

Why r women like Khadija present 1000 years+ ago but the Arab women of 2012 in Saudi Arabia can't drive or even sell bras??? Why must they be treated like garbage????

You belong to a sick cult that has nothing to do with Islam.

grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:24 am

Fighter you are a sick person who needs help, your intense hatred for Arabs has lead you to believe very weird beliefs, like Khadija(ra) dealing with men (acuudbillah). She used male proxies like Muhammad (SAW) Abu talib, and other men to travel for her. Stop making tahriif on our religion figter.

Nanees · Postby **Nanees** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:29 am

nanees said the exact same thing to you, but we can't listen to her now can we?

The truth is only the truth if it came from a person in a high position.

fighter · Postby **fighter** » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:32 am

Why didn't the Prophet muhammad (pbuh) throw khadija in the house and treat her like CRAP like what you sick Wahabbis do to your wives PRESENT DAY?? He didn't do it cause HE'S HONORABLE AND LOVING. Unlike you people.

Once Khadija became Muslim, how come the nabi didn't tell her to stop being a businesswoman??? Why is it that you idiotic wahabbis do things and say things the prophet never does or say??

Whether you agree with me or not, you r part of a cult. I'm guessing no one on snet has said this to u for fear of getting banned because the mods might think it is u who is actually right and those who criticise u are kufaars and must be punished.

U r an embaressment and a shame to the decent Muslims and Somali community in not only Toronto but in the diaspora. You are filled with hate now stop brainwashing people on this site

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