Mareeg State president

[Voltage]

Sahal have you heard about bah-Hawaadle in Marehan?

[greenday]

Addow, qof wax hayaa wax laga doonta.

[sahal80]

Sahal have you heard about bah-Hawaadle in Marehan?

yeah,the same for ogaadens.

[Addoow]

cool sis.

[sahal80]

Sahal,I am not in favor of accepting these fairly new made up genealogies which has no historical backgrounds.Maayle as in af-maaymaay which a political tool made up in late 1990 in baydhabo just like irir doesnt exist.irir was a political name used by isaaq to gain hawiye solidarity.maayle is the mythical ancestor for maaymaay speaking communities.


Greenday

luuqa soo gal hadaad wax kale iga rabtid waliba adigoo catar soo marsaday.

there is a writing colonial document with our elders back in the 40s they said they are mayle samaale.
i dont mind if you deny all of them including hawiye irir but i hate one some one is just denying some of them and accepting others.
one more thing i meant mobileen the udeejeen,if they are two different subclans it was my mistake.
greeny it is ok.

[Addoow]

Can you post that document here? if you comfortable being maaymaayle then it is up to you.i really dont care.and what is more,hiiraan is not exclusively xawadle and that is something you have to accept.


greenday
check your pm.

[sahal80]

Can you post that document here? if you comfortable being maaymaayle then it is up to you.i really dont care.and what is more,hiiraan is not exclusively xawadle and that is something you have to accept.


greenday
check your pm.

why are you distorting the name mayle all the day? let me tell you one thing you realise there were only aaji and ajuuraan who encludes also the saado like the sheekhaals and then the saado, ajuuraans had become pastoralists then they mixed with other clans. then it was divided into two groups sab and samaale or mexey and meey. all the southren mexeey speakers were called samaale. thus, they had known gugundhabe as saransoor samaale, xawaadle as mayle samaale and so on this because the hiraab migration had started in the 17 century. so, we all accept being hawiye but this doesnt mean denying our pre- hawiye ancestral past.
i read that document in an arabic, it was in the house of a guy who is related to cismaan jeele one of the kacaanka men who had been a friend of arabia and still lives in there i think if he still lives.

[RovingMadness]

Sahal80,

Bro, you clearly don't know what you are talking about if your entire argument is Moobleen lives in Jawiil. You should learn your history before you attempt to waste our time.

[sahal80]

Sahal80,

Bro, you clearly don't know what you are talking about if your entire argument is Moobleen lives in Jawiil. You should learn your history before you attempt to waste our time.

well im abdi yuusuf i never been into hiiraan. i meant all the day these guys udeejen, i get it now, i started re-thinking when osob said there is no mobileen in hiiraan and then addow said your mistaking between mobileen and udeejeen. but i have learned more from the blog and found out that the abgaals are darandoole and udeejeen. this is what i meant all the day why udeejeen arent darandoole? was not only the darandoole among the hiraabs who fought the ajuuraan? i disagree that mobileen ever lived in hiiraan, do you want me to post for you what the historians said about your migration from mareeg and hobyo. what im saying is that udeejeen are native hiiranians not the darandoole group.

[greenday]

Ujeejen+Moobleen+Abgaal=Mudulood, you are saying that the ujeejen are from Hiraan and the Abgaal and Moobleen are not soo mahan?

[sahal80]

Ujeejen+Moobleen+Abgaal=Mudulood, you are saying that the ujeejen are from Hiraan and the Abgaal and Moobleen are not soo mahan?

yeah just udeejeen are from hiiraan, yeah i meant the udeejeen, i heard about them before but this guy has written hat mobileen use to live in hiiraan so i was thinking them being the udeejeen.

[greenday]

I dont know Sahal maybe they lived there long ago, am not even sure if there are many mobleen people

[RovingMadness]

Sahal80,


You are listing one incoherent argument after another to the point you confuse even yourself. No-one claimed that Moobleen lived in Hiiraan in this discussion except you. Addow, Osob & I corrected you when you repeatedly claimed that 1) Moobleen are not Mudulood & 2) Moobleen live in Hiiraan. Both of this claims are wrong & don't warrant a serious discussion. Its Udeejeen that lives in Hiiraan & Yes it's part of Mudulood by every conceivable measure whether by biological ties, culture, history socio-political arrangements. I cant even rationalize or justify how you can claim that they are not Mudulood. It's the most random & preposterous claim I have come across in my life. Mind you Udeejeen has placed important civil servants that served Somalia with distinction & they have attained their political supremacy simply based on their Mudulood ties.

The founding father of Somalia President Aden Abdulle Osman was Udeejeen (Ciise Mudulood) the Late Eng Caddow who was the chief leader of the Mudulood resistance against Shabab till his untimely death in 2009 & the current governor & Mayor of Mogadishu Governor Tarzan are all Mudulood & are part & parcel of the Mudulood political leadership. Traditionally Mudulood has 2 leaders namely Harti Abgaal & Udeejeen. It's beyond reason how one can claim that they are not Mudulood. It's a staggering claim & it's no wonder you can't justify your random claim. As I said, these online forums are home to the most fantastic & retarded ideas & theories & yours ranks as one of the most deranged claims on SNET. 

Furthermore, the traditional home of Mudulood is the Mareeg Region in Central Somalia. Mudulood & all the Hiiraab siblings were born there. Overtime, Mudulood migrated south with certain subclans like Udeejeen settling in Hiiraan while Wacdaan settled in Lower Shabelle Region with Moobleen & Abgaal settling in Banadir & Middle Shabelle Region. 

[RovingMadness]

The sick Mudulood father and the proposals of Darandole and Ciise Mudulood

When the ancestral father Mudulood became sick and his two sons Ciise Mudulood and Darandoole Mudulood had to decide what to do with him, they differed in their views.
 
According to Ciise Mudulood, their father should go with them to wherever they went. They proposed for the father to be put on a camel (rati) and as such his offspring would take care for him while they wandered around as pastoralists.
 
According to Darandoole Mudulood, their father should get a restplace. They proposed to build for him a nice house so he could spend his last days in one place.
 
The sick Mudulood father agreed with Darandoole Mudulood and said the following:
 
To Ciise Mudulood:
 
‘Rati korkiisa aan idin ku ogahay’   = Upon a male camel is were you will end up
 
To Darandoole Mudulood:
 
‘Deegaan  baan idin ku ogahay’     = In a land (living place) is where you will end up
 
 
The two statements Mudulood made about his two sons Ciise Mudulood and Darandoole Mudulood were characteristic of their different outlook on life.
 
Ciise Mudulood was of a more pastoral mind and as such proposed to move their sick father along with them and not settle into one place, while Darandoole Mudulood proposed a much sound argument which was to settle into one place and build a rest house for the sick father.

As such, Darandoole Mudulood today inhabit a large land that stretches from Mudug to L.Shabelle which their offspring have settled throughout the centuries, while Ciise Mudulood have wandered westwards as far as into Oromo land in Abbysinia. Today, there is a remaining part of Ciise Mudulood in Hiiraan and the boundary of Somalia-Ethiopia (Feerfeer borderregion). A very small deegaan compared to their sibling Darandoole Mudulood.
Source: Oral recollections by elder Mudulood men.

[sahal80]

Sahal80,


You are listing one incoherent argument after another to the point you confuse even yourself. No-one claimed that Moobleen lived in Hiiraan in this discussion except you. Addow, Osob & I corrected you when you repeatedly claimed that 1) Moobleen are not Mudulood & 2) Moobleen live in Hiiraan. Both of this claims are wrong & don't warrant a serious discussion. Its Udeejeen that lives in Hiiraan & Yes it's part of Mudulood by every conceivable measure whether by biological ties, culture, history socio-political arrangements. I cant even rationalize or justify how you can claim that they are not Mudulood. It's the most random & preposterous claim I have come across in my life. Mind you Udeejeen has placed important civil servants that served Somalia with distinction & they have attained their political supremacy simply based on their Mudulood ties.

The founding father of Somalia President Aden Abdulle Osman was Udeejeen (Ciise Mudulood) the Late Eng Caddow who was the chief leader of the Mudulood resistance against Shabab till his untimely death in 2009 & the current governor & Mayor of Mogadishu Governor Tarzan are all Mudulood & are part & parcel of the Mudulood political leadership. Traditionally Mudulood has 2 leaders namely Harti Abgaal & Udeejeen. It's beyond reason how one can claim that they are not Mudulood. It's a staggering claim & it's no wonder you can't justify your random claim. As I said, these online forums are home to the most fantastic & retarded ideas & theories & yours ranks as one of the most deranged claims on SNET. 

Furthermore, the traditional home of Mudulood is the Mareeg Region in Central Somalia. Mudulood & all the Hiiraab siblings were born there. Overtime, Mudulood migrated south with certain subclans like Udeejeen settling in Hiiraan while Wacdaan settled in Lower Shabelle Region with Moobleen & Abgaal settling in Banadir & Middle Shabelle Region. 

my bad, waqti aa u baahanay xifdiyo magacyada, sorry about that. yeah agree with this statement. yeah i have seen yesterday the article of the sick mudulood father. i aplogize than to all of you muduloods. im doing another research can you help me with this: are the murursade landlocked like hawadle? i mean are the coustal towns from harerdheere to banaadir all mudulood?