how can i save this guy?

[sahal80]

abu abdallah, we are distantly related. he is the waaliga lower shabeele but now al shabaab is over and i worry about him.
http://somalimemo.net/index.php/compone ... abo-sawiro

[sahal80]

im just kidding, just sending him a messsage get your ass back to abdi yuusuf before its too late.

[Somaliman50]

bro i wish somalis would encourage this new islamic renaissance that is making its move in somalia. instead of sending our kids to learn in masar and saudia, i would love to see somalia become a beacon of muslim prosperity, our people engaged in seeking knowledge and raising their honour through islam, just like mauritania, land of the greatest culama.

[sahal80]

bro i wish somalis would encourage this new islamic renaissance that is making its move in somalia. instead of sending our kids to learn in masar and saudia, i would love to see somalia become a beacon of muslim prosperity, our people engaged in seeking knowledge and raising their honour through islam, just like mauritania, land of the greatest culama.

yeah, can you believe the same party muslim brotherhood party is ruling both somalia and turky that why they are friends. im not into the reformists, i support the true muslims mainly in the iran and syrian camp because muslim brotherhood are NATO alliannce.listen to sheikh umran hussain from youtoube.
there must be negotiation with al shabaab.

[Somaliman50]

muslim brotherhood, so you mean xarakada islaax? they support the daljir forum, which is like an anti-shabaab alliance of clerics. they have some good things and bad things. problem with the groups in somalia waa tafarruqa badan. i have read documents about the history of political islam in somalia and that seems to be the only common factor in all this. kolkii mowqifka iyo hadafka la cadayn waayey, xaq cid kugu raacayso mahelaysid.

[sahal80]

yeah islaax is a part of them but also the ruling aala shaykh like shaykh sharif and the the justice and development of turky, the qatar ruling family, the ruling part al nahda of tunisia, abdi jaliil head of the ruling NTC of libya, all of them are muslim brotherhood, that why turky is working to weaken syrian regime for the interests of the muslim brotherhood and NATO but luckly the muslim brother couldnt win the election in egypt, the salafis won it.

[Somaliman50]

you have raised an interesting point. up until now i did not see it from that angle so what makes you certain the ikhwanis are behind nato with all their support?

[sahal80]

you have raised an interesting point. up until now i did not see it from that angle so what makes you certain the ikhwanis are behind nato with all their support?

because the ikhwanis of each coutry have been asking for a NATO intervention, al qardawis fatwa for the NATO in libya and to kill gaddafi, they asked the same NATO support againist syria, their country. turky is an ikhwaan regime and a member of NATO as well since the cold war and now its ikhwan regime is againist syria to help its ikhwan ascend to the power and satisfy america.

[Somaliman50]

come to think of it, the ikhwan of today bear no similarity to the era of sayd qutb. yesterday they were revolutionaries, out to change the world, now theyre almost supportive of the status quo with the ummah today.

[sahal80]

come to think of it, the ikhwan of today bear no similarity to the era of sayd qutb. yesterday they were revolutionaries, out to change the world, now theyre almost supportive of the status quo with the ummah today.

that is it, just like shaykh sharif meets clinton, the same for mustafa abdi jalil the head of the NTC of libya, he was a member of ikhwan and was jailed for that and then gaddafi appoint him as the minister of justice in reconciliation with ikhwan.

[Somaliman50]

yeah thats right, lakin why is the hiraan community, especially the people of east beledweyne, strong supporters of sharif ahmed? infact they have considerable amount of members in the daljir/islaah faction? maxaad ka odhan lahayd sxb

[sahal80]

rayigeega siyaasad qabiil kuma dhisna, im a progressive person. lakin there are hawdles in al shabaab, this guy abaa abdallah waaliga lower shabeele is cabdi yuusuf xawaadle also sheekh yuusuf ugaas waliga hiiraan is reer ugaas xawadle
as for siyaasada hawadle, they were the usc backbone back in the early 90s, there was always abgaal faction like cumar xashi who was duqa banaadir for ali mahdi, cumarr xaashi use to be gudoomiyaha bari and he knows reer mudug mentality, so, he warned about supporting aideed people, he said we have now our hiiraan without refugees, let us now stay away from this abgaal vs habargir war and if you have to support one of them, let it be the abgaals for they have rich greenland and wont think of your land , the others are gaajo and after xamar, baladweyn will be the next, anyways after the prophecy of xaashi had become true, the xawadle had sticked with the cumar xaashis mudulood theory to survive. the other side of the xawaadle politics is to support somalinimo and qaranimo as a rescue mission for all. here is cobdolahi cosoble siyaad

[abgaalKING]

yeah thats right, lakin why is the hiraan community, especially the people of east beledweyne, strong supporters of sharif ahmed? infact they have considerable amount of members in the daljir/islaah faction? maxaad ka odhan lahayd sxb

There are Two Reasons why Mudulood And Xawaadle Support Each Other.

1.Familial Ties and a historic peaceful co-existance which still exists till today.
2.Mudulood Accepts,Recognizes,Lobbies For Hawaadle Soveriegnty Over Hiiraan.We will always Side With Xawaadle on the issue of Hiiraan and we firmly believe that This Decision also benefits our Mudulood Brothers in hiiraan-Ujeejeen.

We Supported Them During USC/SNA Raid on Baladweyne,which was illegal and Immoral invasion by a War Criminal.We basically Aided Them in cleaning up their City and we will do it in the future.Xawaadle soverignty Over Hiiraan benefits us.

[sahal80]

yeah thats right, lakin why is the hiraan community, especially the people of east beledweyne, strong supporters of sharif ahmed? infact they have considerable amount of members in the daljir/islaah faction? maxaad ka odhan lahayd sxb

There are Two Reasons why Mudulood And Xawaadle Support Each Other.

1.Familial Ties and a historic peaceful co-existance which still exists till today.
2.Mudulood Accepts,Recognizes,Lobbies For Hawaadle Soveriegnty Over Hiiraan.We will always Side With Xawaadle on the issue of Hiiraan and we firmly believe that This Decision also benefits our Mudulood Brothers in hiiraan-Ujeejeen.

We Supported Them During USC/SNA Raid on Baladweyne,which was illegal and Immoral invasion by a War Criminal.We basically Aided Them in cleaning up their City and we will do it in the future.Xawaadle soverignty Over Hiiraan benefits us.

yeah but,historically, xawaadle were closer to habargidir, based on the iririsim alliance between abdallah ciise, sheikh ali jumcaale, and ibrahim cigaal, sheikh ali jimcaale had lost the presidential election for addan cade because of his ideological believes, the abgaals never had any radical believes. also murursade, hawadle and habargidir had rebelled before the abgaals at mustaxiil in the 80s as a pre-USC secret political initiative. having said that, and sharing the ideological hawiye kingdom with habargidir, the habargidir alternative was disasterous and hence hawadle had adopted the mudulood pacifism.
sheikh ali jumcaale number 3
http://dadkeyga.com/?p=1804

[abgaalKING]

Enough with mudulood pacifism fairy tales.because of MSB clan politics,Habargidir Today reside in one tuulo in hiiraan ,MSB did it for creating clan tension ,he could simply added that tuulo to galgaduud. gaaljecel and habargidir are more a challange to xawadle then Mudulood. the emergence of phantom states like gal-hiiran should be enough to make my point across.we believe in xawaadle being the only power broker in hiiraan.those who wreaked havoc on baladweyne and mogadishu should be kept at bay what ever they claim to be.