Look up the act of union Between Somalia and Somaliland ...

[LaY-D_LicK]

I am still waiting for you to prove how somaliland had ties with the south ...

before colonization ....

for your claim on somaliland today to be valid it has to be either we were united once before or the union is valid ...


and I am saying neither is correct ...


Since you can't find the act of union you said we were being reunited well then prove our linked heritage?

Its a very simple question ....

The fact is the only thing that holds somalia and Somaliland togheter is a very Weak, unlawfull, illegal and illegitimate act of union ...

[original dervish]

We don`t have to prove anything....as long as your not recognised by a single country on earth its all jiggy with us
You can post as many useless articles and videos as you like, aint gonna change shyte for you .

The british are long gone, they don`t want your behinds anymore. From now on its for youz!

[Eaglehawk]

This is idotic thinking, it’s like saying where the germanic tribes or the turkic tribes unified in one politcal entity based on the principles of "nation state"
We were a “nation” before 1960 but we became a “nation state” in 1960
Greater somalia has historically different faces and British somaliland was 1 face of many and somali independence in 1960 is a another face.
Now hargeisa and kismayo might not have been part of the same political entity before 1960 but the people of kismaayo and hargeisa have been part of the same entity before 1960 and it was during adal sultante and later emirate harar

But all that doesn`t matter because what happened in 1960 erased all legal basis of previous entities

[mody21]

We don`t have to prove anything....as long as your not recognised by a single country on earth its all jiggy with us
You can post as many useless articles and videos as you like, aint gonna change shyte for you .

The british are long gone, they don`t want your behinds anymore. From now on its for youz!

LMFAO that made my day

[LaY-D_LicK]

bla bla bla bla

But all that doesn`t matter because what happened in 1960 erased all legal basis of previous entities

This is what the late president of somaliland commented on ....

Somalia's supported have willfully erased our history and heritage ...

To support their own selfish experiment ...

The fact is Somaliland and Somalia had no ties ...

Lets not get confused here we had no ties ...

and the only thing that does tie us NOW ...

is what happend in 1960 the act of union ...

you already said there was never a union ...

but now you are saying there was ...

and what i am saying is that UNION was illegal and illegitamate and wouldnt hold up in any international court of law...

and if that is the legal basis on which you want to claim the land that belongs to the somalilanders ...

My simple question was SHOW ME THE ACT OF UNION?

if not show me where we had historical ties previous to Colonisation?

Its a very simple question.. no ?

[Eaglehawk]

bla bla bla bla

But all that doesn`t matter because what happened in 1960 erased all legal basis of previous entities

This is what the late president of somaliland commented on ....

Somalia's supported have willfully erased our history and heritage ...

To support their own selfish experiment ...

The fact is Somaliland and Somalia had no ties ...

Lets not get confused here we had no ties ...

and the only thing that does tie us NOW ...

is what happend in 1960 ...

you already said there was never a union ...

but now you are saying there was ...

and what i am saying is that UNION was illegal and illegitamate and wouldnt hold up in any international...

and if that is the legal basis on which you want to claim the land that belongs to the somalilanders ...

My simple question was SHOW ME THE ACT OF UNION?

if not show me where we had historical ties previous to Colonisation?

Its a very simple question.. no ?

this is a sovereign state this a theoretical state it has no legal basis. in reality somaliland is a faction of many faction in the Somali civil war.
It’s you that is trying to give it historic connection to british somaliland

ps: wallahi believe I can rule isaaq, they are the most submissive and have a acceptive nature towards new dogmas, no wonder they bough the whole hantiwadag stuf in 70s when we didn`t even believe in shit

[original dervish]

listen your claims to the north of somalia is illegitimate because you are just one subclan out of many who inhabit the north.
i don`t even know why your arguing...its only some of the issaq who support secession, all the other clans believe in somali unity.

No somali in his/her right mind will give away half the country to tribal fanatics.
The best deal you`ll ever get is for your issaq regions to be self administered, just like pl/ galmudug and dare i say Khaatumo State of Somalia.

[LaY-D_LicK]

listen your claims to the north of somalia is illegitimate because you are just one subclan out of many who inhabit the north.
i don`t even know why your arguing...its only some of the issaq who support secession, all the other clans believe in somali unity.

No somali in his/her right mind will give away half the country to tribal fanatics.
The best deal you`ll ever get is for your issaq regions to be self administered, just like pl/ galmudug and dare i say Khaatumo State of Somalia.

Thats all properganda ...

however the fact is

On 26th June 1960, Somaliland was formally recognized as the Republic of Somaliland by UN and other 35 countries including Britain, Israel, Egypt and USA.

Somaliland is a soon to be recognized democrasy ...

We have worked very hard to keep al-qaeeda, piracy and warlords out our country ...

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[LaY-D_LicK]

Puntland is a self declareed state within Somalia ...

Somaliland is a state with its own legitamate borders ....

Somaliland Existed before Somalia

and we JOINED somalia willyfully....

and that union is dead now ...

Due to the holocaust of 80 thousand somalilanders ...

and we are the only nation in africa after being bombed and flatten to zero level built ourself up from scratch ...

The act of union tying us together is unlawful ..

There is no point spewing baseless propaganda when you cant answer my simple questions ...


Being Passive is that A slur for Progressive

We just don't want to associate ourself with The chaos of Somalia ...

We are very different people all togheter with different histories and it shows in the fact that we have prospered where you have failed ...

We have a democrasy ....

We have regular elections ..

We have a government ...

We have a navy that locks up pirates we also dont have al-qaeeda in our country ..

We are Somaliland
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[original dervish]

don`t try and bullshit me girl, i`ve been all over the north and you guys aint got shyte. you can barely feed yourselves during the best of times.
the secessionists have been begging the world for recognition for most of your life, and yet your here telling me your already an independent state

i gotta hand it to you though, how you remain positive is beyond comprehension. you guys are like a collective mandela, after 21 years of knock backs and humiliation you come out smiling

[LaY-D_LicK]

don`t try and bullshit me girl, i`ve been all over the north and you guys aint got shyte. you can barely feed yourselves during the best of times.
the secessionists have been begging the world for recognition for most of your life, and yet your here telling me your already an independent state

i gotta hand it to you though, how you remain positive is beyond comprehension. you guys are like a collective mandela, after 21 years of knock backs and humiliation you come out smiling

I think you are confusing Somaliland with Somalia

Somalia Suffered A horrific Famine a couple months ago ...

It was Somaliland that stepped in to Send aid relief ...

We are great neighbours to help you guys like that ...

It was a positive step for us to have done after Somalia has Murderd So many Somalilanders in the 1988

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-develo ... -mogadishu

Also it easy to stay positive as we have lived in relative peace for the passed 20 years where as somalia has failed from 1988,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,etc

We have everything to be positive about the union is unlawfull and we live in peace nor suffer famine

[Eaglehawk]

When you start believing in your own propaganda, that should give you an indication on how a healthy mind is deteriorating
when a civil propaganda ment for constructive progression of the people,
becomes hindernes and mentality constraints the people ability to adapt to new realities and peoples lack of conformity to new reality and when that eventually hinders their interest you realy foked it up

[LaY-D_LicK]

When you start believing in your own propaganda, that should give you an indication on how a healthy mind is deteriorating
when a civil propaganda ment for constructive progression of the people,
becomes hindernes and mentality constraints the people ability to adapt to new realities and peoples lack of conformity to new reality and when that eventually hinders their interest you realy foked it up

Sadly That is very True and I do hope you guys recover from it soon ...

[original dervish]

ok ok I can`t take it anymore, I give in. Somaliland I hearby recognise you as an independent state within the borders of the former British Somaliland Protectorate

[LaY-D_LicK]

ok ok I can`t take it anymore, I give in. Somaliland I hearby recognise you as an independent state within the borders of the former British Somaliland Protectorate