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Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby Keyblade » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:33 pm

Again you are wrong Akhi, Wallahi you will never understand that's because Allah locked your heart.

The Hadiths you brought true Awilya of Allah can testify it's daeef and false!

and the Ayat you brought forth what does it say?

That is because they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.


Nabi Muhammad (saw) wasn't even born and his father died, and Allah says he will not guide nor forgive them because they disbelieved in him and Muhammad, Akhas warya iska bax waad is ceebsay.
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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:36 pm

War waakan na Quranki isku tuuray, War is Muhammad ibn Abdulwahhab more special to you then your own prophet? that you wouldn't feel sad about saying his parents are in hell? is this the mind that you have? what did thaT AYAH SAY?

IT SAID That is because they disbelieved in Allah and His messenger, and Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

AND THE AYAH I BROUGHT IT SAID We never punish until We have sent a Messenger) (Al-Isra': 15).


Muhammad ibn Abdulwahhab is the Horn of Iblis for he is the one who started all this fitna propheseised the prophet himself, akhi you refuse to recognise the Ayah in the Quran where Allah says if you allie and seek friendship and protection with ahlulkitaab your islam is gone, your one of them but then you are happy to say the prophet's parents are in hell?

AKHI THINK THINK¬

WARYA KEYBLADE, you don't understand iska bax bro.

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:37 pm

Are you denying the Sahih Muslim hadiths? Yes or no answer would suffice.

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:42 pm

Are you denying the Sahih Muslim hadiths? Yes or no answer would suffice.
War are you testyfying that everysingle hadith from the Sahih are true, and why are you not replying to my advice, you always do this, Wallahi youtube vid baan sameeniddona
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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby eliteSomali » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:43 pm

Would yall two niggas leave the diin alone. Go boast about who is more arab instead. :up:

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:44 pm

Yes every single hadith that is Sahih (authentic) all have strong chain. They are equal in rulings to the Qur'an because they are the words of the prophet. do you deny them? stop dancing around the question.

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:48 pm

The Prophet's Parents Are Saved

Imām Jalāluddīn al-Suyūtī

In this Hadith the word “Abb” – Father does not refer to the Holy Prophet’s (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) father but to his uncle.

In Arabic usage for style and expression, the word “Abb” for uncle as well.

Example of this is found in the Qur’an as well.

Hazrat Yaqoob (On him be peace) is the son of Hazrat Ishaaq (On him be peace).


Hazrat Ismail and Hazrat Ishaaq (On them be peace) are brothers. Thus in relation Hazrat Ismail (On him be peace) is the uncle of Hazrat Yaqoob (On him be peace).


But the Holy Qur’an has used the word “Abb” to denote uncle?

When Hazrat Yaqoob (On him be peace) asked his sons:


Whom will you worship after me?”


They replied:

“He who is your Allah and of your fathers Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaaq”. (S2:V133)


From this verse too it is proven the word “Abb” can be used to denote uncle.

Thus the word “Abb” in the Hadith of Muslim Shareef refers to the Holy Prophet’s (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) uncle and not his father and therefore is in no way negating that the Holy Prophet’s (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) parents were not believers.



Imam Suyuti


(May Allah be pleased with him) has reported the following:


“Allah Almighty granted life to the parents of the Holy Prophets (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) on his request and both declared faith in him”.

Then he further states: “Allah Almighty is not powerless to do this for His Rasool (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). He can do whatever He pleases”.

"I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother,
Muslim (976) narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
"I asked my Lord for permission to pray for forgiveness for my mother, but He did not give me permission. And I asked Him for permission to visit her grave, and He gave me permission."
Note!
Is it permissible to visit and stand besides the grave of a Kafir?
Where in the above hadith, is it stated that Hazrat Bibi Amina (RA) is (MazAllah) a non-believer?
The hadith actually confirms the Excellence of the Blessed Mother of the Holy Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihe-e-Wa-Sallam).

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby grandpakhalif » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:52 pm

Some obscure suufi nut won't dismiss the likes of Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) and Sheikh Muhammad ibn abdulwahhab (rahimhullah)

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:57 pm

Some obscure suufi nut won't dismiss the likes of Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) and Sheikh Muhammad ibn abdulwahhab (rahimhullah)
Imam Suyuti is respected by your Salafi masters doqon foqol doqon, Imam Jalal Suyuti was a noble Sheikh, 'Sheikh' muhammad ibn abdulwahhab was a confused bedouin who lived on the false words of a british spy.

18 points that prove they are in heaven, Akhi make Taubah while you can. :|
It is a proven fact from the Holy Quran and Ahadith

1. It is a proven fact from the Holy Quran and Ahadith that the parents of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihiwasallam) - Sayyiduna Abdullah and Sayyidah Aamina (radi Allahu anhuma) - were always on Iman and left this world with Iman.

2. All his forefathers, from his father, Hazrat Abdullah (radi Allahu anhu), to Hazrat Adam (alaihis salaam), were Mu'min, Muwaahids (believers in the Oneness of Allah), Aabids and Zaahids. None from amongst them were idol-worshippers or Faasiqs (sinners).


3. Actually, the Noor of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) travelled from Hazrat Adam (alaihis salaam) to Hazrat Abdullah (radi Allahu anhu), in the family chain of those who always sincerely worshipped One Allah.


4. For those who say, Ma'az-Allah, that the parents of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) were non-believers, they should think and ponder that if the parents of no other Prophet were non-believers, how then would the parents of the greatest of all Prophets be non-believers?


5. In the era in which the Holy Prophet’s (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) parent's lived all that was required for Iman was to affirm the true belief in the Oneness of Almighty Allah. Neither did they commit Kufr nor was their Iman changed, so they cannot be regarded as sinners or Kaafirs. They remained true Mu'mins in life and when they passed away.
6. The great Ulama have proven the Iman and Islam of the parents of the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in three different ways:-

6.1 Both of them were on Deen-e-Haneef – following the teachings of Hazrat Ibrahim (alaihis salaam).

6.2 In their time, they had not received direct invitation of previous Prophets to their Deen. They passed away with Iman, believing in One Allah before the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) announced his Prophethood.

6.3 Due to the Du'a of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), Allah Ta’ala gave life to hisparents who were buried in their graves and they brought Iman on him. After Hajjat-ul Widaa, he brought them back to life with the permission of Allah Ta’ala. By seeing him and bringing Iman on him, they became Sahaabi-e-Rasool (sallal laahualaihi wasallam). (Fatawa Razviah; Tafseer-e-Na'eemi)

7. The Holy Quran states: "There had come unto you a Messenger (one) of yourselves." In another reading the Fah (ARABIC) of ARABIC is pronounced with a Zabbar (ARABIC), which would mean that this most honourable
Prophet has come from a most honourable group or society. Naturally, the idolaters cannot be termed as a honourable group, but on the contrary, as the most wicked. The above argument proves that the parents of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) and his entire genealogical trace were a most honourable group and believed in One Allah.


8. A Tradition extracted from Bukhari found in Miskhaat, under the Chapter "Fazaa'il Syedul Mursaleen," contains the following words of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam): "I have been sent from the best group of the children of Adam, from one group to the next, till I am in that group which I am."


9. The above Hadith substantiates that the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has been carried along the best and most noble group. The revolution of his light (Noor) has always remained within clean and pure wombs. Whose womb can be considered as clean and pure, but that of a true Believer in One Almighty Allah!


10. In Miskhaat, in the Chapter "Ziarat Quboor," it is stated that the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) sought permission from Allah Ta’ala to visit the grave of his mother, not to seek her forgiveness. We ask, in all honesty, that if she was a disbeliever, why was he even given permission to visit her grave when it is stated explicitly in the
Holy Quran not to even visit the graves of disbelievers?
This proves that she was not a disbeliever or else he would not have been given permission to even stand at her grave. As to the question of forgiveness, he was not permitted to ask for their forgiveness because they were not sinners. A sinner or disbeliever is he upon whom a
set of Divine Laws has reached and who intentionally violates it. A set of pure Divine Laws did not reach the parent's of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), yet they believed in One Allah. How then could they be termed as idolaters?


11. Before the arrival of the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) his mother also witnessed strange things during her pregnancy as well as the time of his birth. During her pregnancy, in every month a different Prophet used to appear to her in her dream describing to her of the wonderful and glorious attributes of her expected child, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam). Once, the midwife, Bibi Halima (radi Allahu anha), in a state of apprehension, described to Bibi Aaminah (radi Allahu anha) the splitting of her son's chest. Bibi Aaminah (radi Allahu anha) replied that she should not be afraid as her son was the true and Last Prophet and that the Shaitaan would not be able to harm him in any way. So how is it possible to refer to her as a disbeliever after she had witnessed all the strange happenings and wonderful experiences? It is emphatically impossible.


12. The Holy Quran states: "We never punish until We have sent a Messenger." The Pure Message or a Messenger never reached both of Rasoolullah's (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam)parents, so how could they be punished? Yes, without doubt, they believed in the Religion of Hazrat Ibrahim (alaihis salaam), that is, in One Allah. Yet, as history proves, the Divine Books at that time had been misinterpreted and tampered with by human beings. The criterion of being called a person of faith at that time was strictly to believe in One God, which the parents of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) believed in. It would be unfair to, therefore, call them disbelievers.


13. Sheikh Muhaddith Dehlwi (radi Allahu anhu) said that the parents of all Prophets were never disbelievers.


14. At the time of the construction of the Holy Kaaba, Hazrat Ibrahim (alaihis salaam) prayed to Allah Ta’ala. The Holy Quran confirms: "And raise up in their midst a Messenger from among them." The Holy Prophet Muhammad (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) being raised from among the Muslim group is a fulfilment of Hazrat Ibrahim's (alaihissalaam) supplication.


15. With regards to the question of raising the dead, it is not an impossibility. This fact has been clearly proven by Hazrat Isa, Hazrat Moosa and Hazrat Hazkeel (alaihimus salaam). It has been reported in the Ahadith that close to Qiyamah, even the Kaafir Dajjal will be able to raise the dead. It has been reported that the Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) also raised the dead as was in the case of Hazrat Jaber's (radi Allahu anhu) children and the entire group. (Qurtabi, Madaarijun Nabuwat, Shaami)

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17. Another point to remember is that if the parents of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) were disbelievers, why were there names "Abdullah" and "Aaminah"? The meaning of "Abdullah" is "Slave of Allah" and "Aaminah" means "One with Faith."


18. Addressing the Holy Prophet (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam), Almighty Allah states in the Holy Quran: "And soon will thy Lord give you (that wherewith) you shall be well pleased." Taking this verse into account, which dutiful and obedient son will be pleased at seeing his parents in Hell?
Ask yourselves the question: Will it please the Almighty Allah to see the parents of Hazrat Isa and Hazrat Moosa (alaihimus salaam) in Paradise and the parents of Rasoolullah (sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) in Hell?
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Akhi go make Tawbah you wronged yourself.

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby ZubeirAwal » Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:09 pm

I hate arguing about these things, but it's like i have no choice, i'll do anything to protect the purity of the noble immediate family of the prophet (s) who are all in jannah dwelling as they deserve by the mercy of their generous lord. Praise be to he and peace be upon his beloved messenger . Amin

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Postby Keyblade » Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:59 am

WARYA KEYBLADE, you don't understand iska bax bro.
i understand what awliya means, and sure as hell understand it shouldn't precede Allah in a sentence.

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Re: Ya Ilahi, i'm crying of what the Saudis did to Hijaz

Postby ZubeirAwal » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:10 am

WARYA KEYBLADE, you don't understand iska bax bro.
i understand what awliya means, and sure as hell understand it shouldn't precede Allah in a sentence.

So you can't say Messenger of Allah, Angels of Allah, Creation of Allah? Allah created man to be his khalifah on earth, his viceregent what part do you not understand.


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