I've been recurrently disappointed and my hopes for somaliwayn has been shattered on countless occasions.@Elite - The comment wasn't directed at you sxb.
You still believe in Somaliweyne? C'mon son there's no such thing. The balkanisation of Somalia - one way or another - is on its way, now is the time for each tribe to secure their lands.
If we cannot even be in charge of our ancestral lands in the Jubbas then we might aswell commit mass suicide.
But still YES, I do believe it but that belief is rapidly diminishing. If it comes to that point where balkinzation is the only option.... Look at my location>>> 
if you guys have nin firfircoon/educated who is really interested in politics, you think which country is he from there is no "Ogaden" in Somalia just sub clans of it so its, you guys are like the skiekhal.
WTF green: you're hardly ever this dogmatic?Elite all am saying expecting to have as much impact as other sub clans is just not realistic for Ogaden
WTF green: you're hardly ever this dogmatic?Elite all am saying expecting to have as much impact as other sub clans is just not realistic for Ogaden
So then you do agree that any clan who's numerically insignificant should not meddle with somali'a politics and should only remain and watch from the sideline? What kind of philosophy is this? Besides, you're forgetting key factor here; Ogaden is twice the size of the biggest subclan in somlia if not thrice. If you allow abgaal who is, in terms of numbers,3 or 4X smaller than ogaden to assume active role in somalia's politics then what denies the same right to ogaden? I believe there are more ogadens in somalia than abgaal. It's almost as if you're saying ogadens are not somali.
you guys are stretched across three countries and you can not expect to be politically strong in all three.
Take a little search around the Kenyan politic.WTF green: you're hardly ever this dogmatic?Elite all am saying expecting to have as much impact as other sub clans is just not realistic for Ogaden
So then you do agree that any clan who's numerically insignificant should not meddle with somali'a politics and should only remain and watch from the sideline? What kind of philosophy is this? Besides, you're forgetting key factor here; Ogaden is twice the size of the biggest subclan in somlia if not thrice. If you allow abgaal who is, in terms of numbers,3 or 4X smaller than ogaden to assume active role in somalia's politics then what denies the same right to ogaden? I believe there are more ogadens in somalia than abgaal. It's almost as if you're saying ogadens are not somali.
Ogaden are Somali but are all Ogadens from Somalia
About how deeply the Ogaden are in the Kenyan politics.And what should i be looking for?
What does that have to do with what i said marka?About how deeply the Ogaden are in the Kenyan politics.And what should i be looking for?
Why not? Our numbers are big in all three, Ogadens are the biggest qabil in Jubaland which is an important and large region in Somalia. We should have a strong political representation in Somalia as well.WTF green: you're hardly ever this dogmatic?Elite all am saying expecting to have as much impact as other sub clans is just not realistic for Ogaden
So then you do agree that any clan who's numerically insignificant should not meddle with somali'a politics and should only remain and watch from the sideline? What kind of philosophy is this? Besides, you're forgetting key factor here; Ogaden is twice the size of the biggest subclan in somlia if not thrice. If you allow abgaal who is, in terms of numbers,3 or 4X smaller than ogaden to assume active role in somalia's politics then what denies the same right to ogaden? I believe there are more ogadens in somalia than abgaal. It's almost as if you're saying ogadens are not somali.
Ogaden are Somali but are all Ogadens from Somalia
I think you've got a few things mixed up. 1. What makes a person a somali? According to you, and I am only going by what you post, a person is not considered a somali unless he or she is born in somalia? However, there's a catch to that and here it is; so if white or asian person is born in somalia, are they Somali? If you agree then your belief that somalinimo is constituted by birth is wrong. is an abgal born in kenya less abgaal to you than one, say, born in somalia? 2. You want to marginilize any clan who's numbers is not up the bar. If you do that then somalia will become a battle ground for hawiye, darood and isaaq. What about the rest of the clans then? where do they go? Do they also migrate to other countries to seek for political roles?WTF green: you're hardly ever this dogmatic?Elite all am saying expecting to have as much impact as other sub clans is just not realistic for Ogaden
So then you do agree that any clan who's numerically insignificant should not meddle with somali'a politics and should only remain and watch from the sideline? What kind of philosophy is this? Besides, you're forgetting key factor here; Ogaden is twice the size of the biggest subclan in somlia if not thrice. If you allow abgaal who is, in terms of numbers,3 or 4X smaller than ogaden to assume active role in somalia's politics then what denies the same right to ogaden? I believe there are more ogadens in somalia than abgaal. It's almost as if you're saying ogadens are not somali.
Ogaden are Somali but are all Ogadens from Somalia
What does that have to do with what i said marka?About how deeply the Ogaden are in the Kenyan politics.And what should i be looking for?
Ogaden are Somali but are all Ogadens from Somalia
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