Faroole gets his way, Draft is going to be changed

[SultanOrder]

Ra'iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya oo sheegay in fikirka Puntland ee Dastuurka uu la mid yahay midka ay dadku qabaan
Sabti, May 12, 2012 (HOL) — Ra'iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya, C/weli Maxamed Cali ayaa sheegay in fikirka ku aaddan dastuurka ee Puntland ayaa ku sheegay mid la mid ah fikirka ay dadku ka qabaan dastuurka.

Ra'iisul wasaaruhu wuxuu sheegay inaan xilligan aan dastuurka loo qaadi karin afti dadweyne, balse loo qaadi doono markii la gaaro waqtigeeda, inta ka horreysana wax laga bedeli karo waxna lagu dari karo.

"Dad badan ayaa fikirro ka qaba dastuurka, fikirka ay soo jeedisay Puntland kuwaas ayuu la mid yahay," ayuu yiri ra'iisul wasaaraha oo sheegay inay lagama maarmaan tahay in la helo dastuur looga gudbo axdiga KMG ah ee hadda lagu shaqeeyo.

Maamul-goboleedka Puntland ayaa sheegay in 36-qodob oo ku jira dastuurka cusub ee la doonayo in la ansixiyo aysan ku qabansanayn sida ay u qoran yihiin sidaad daraadeedna ay tahay in la bedelo inta aan la ansixin.

Qoraal kasoo baxay xafiiska madaxweynaha Puntland ayaa lagu dalbaday in shir lagu dhameynayo kala fikir duwanaasha soo dhexgashay DKMG iyo Puntland lagu qabto dalka Itoobiya ama Kenya midkood.

Hadalka ra'iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya ayaa u muuqda inaysan dowladdu doonayn in laga laabto ansixinta dastuurka oo shirkii lagu soo xulayay ergadii ansixin lahayd uu ka socdo Muqdisho.

Muranka ku saabsan dastuurka ayaa wuxuu soo billowday markii dowladda KMG ah ay sheegtay in la ansixinayo, balse fikirka Puntland ayaa noqonaya mid aad u soo dib-dhacay wuxuuna maamulku ku sheegay inay taasi ku timid guddi kasoo talo-bixiya oo loo saaray.

Maxamed Xaaji Xuseen, Hiiraan Online

[samatar133]

the whole puntland refusal of the draft constituiton is just a bargaining game, nothing more nothing less. The real isue is not what they are refusing but what they want others accept.

[SultanOrder]

the whole puntland refusal of the draft constituiton is just a bargaining game, nothing more nothing less.

I don't think so. I believe Puntland has Somalia's best interests at heart. I believe Puntland is sincere about ending the transition and having a full functioning government. I believe that Puntland wants Somalia to be economically prosperous and stable. I believe Puntland wants Somalia to be economically integerated, stable, and coheisive. I also believe that Puntland wants a clear constitution that lays out the roles of states/federal levels clearly (albeit in the way it sees fit). I also believe that Puntland doesn't want to give up it's achievements for a faulty system that is not likely to succeed. Puntland has the right to lobby for the best possible solution for Somalia. Puntland is not the big bad wolf. Puntland knows if Somalia suceeds, they suceed. So it is high time we need to get out of this Puntland is out to destroy Somalia mentality.

[CismanMaxamud1]

the whole puntland refusal of the draft constituiton is just a bargaining game, nothing more nothing less.

I don't think so. I believe Puntland has Somalia's best interests at heart. I believe Puntland is sincere about ending the transition and having a full functioning government. I believe that Puntland wants Somalia to be economically prosperous and stable. I believe Puntland wants Somalia to be economically integerated, stable, and coheisive. I also believe that Puntland wants a clear constitution that lays out the roles of states/federal levels clearly (albeit in the way it sees fit). I also believe that Puntland doesn't want to give up it's achievements for a faulty system that is not likely to succeed. Puntland has the right to lobby for the best possible solution for Somalia. Puntland is not the big bad wolf. Puntland knows if Somalia suceeds, they suceed. So it is high time we need to get out of this Puntland is out to destroy Somalia mentality.

[gurey25]

im rooting for this to work out as well, because the risk of UN trusteeship is very real.
If somalis don't get their act together this will be the new reality.

Foriegners already control somalia to a large extent , making this official will be really bad.

[samatar133]

the whole puntland refusal of the draft constituiton is just a bargaining game, nothing more nothing less.

I don't think so. I believe Puntland has Somalia's best interests at heart. I believe Puntland is sincere about ending the transition and having a full functioning government. I believe that Puntland wants Somalia to be economically prosperous and stable. I believe Puntland wants Somalia to be economically integerated, stable, and coheisive. I also believe that Puntland wants a clear constitution that lays out the roles of states/federal levels clearly (albeit in the way it sees fit). I also believe that Puntland doesn't want to give up it's achievements for a faulty system that is not likely to succeed. Puntland has the right to lobby for the best possible solution for Somalia. Puntland is not the big bad wolf. Puntland knows if Somalia suceeds, they suceed. So it is high time we need to get out of this Puntland is out to destroy Somalia mentality.

No one would dispute that Puntland want to see the end of the transition and ofcourse it want Somalia to work since it will be part and parcel of Somalia and the country's wellbeing will benefit them. But here is the trick they want somalia to work in a way that maximises their local interest at the expense of others in the country and that is the source of the current dispute. For example, they want a parliamentry system which they think is good for good while others prefer the presidential system. They want Muqdisho to be neutral and controlled by the federal government, Muqdishaawis dont like that.

[Sagaashan]

the whole puntland refusal of the draft constituiton is just a bargaining game, nothing more nothing less.

I don't think so. I believe Puntland has Somalia's best interests at heart. I believe Puntland is sincere about ending the transition and having a full functioning government. I believe that Puntland wants Somalia to be economically prosperous and stable. I believe Puntland wants Somalia to be economically integerated, stable, and coheisive. I also believe that Puntland wants a clear constitution that lays out the roles of states/federal levels clearly (albeit in the way it sees fit). I also believe that Puntland doesn't want to give up it's achievements for a faulty system that is not likely to succeed. Puntland has the right to lobby for the best possible solution for Somalia. Puntland is not the big bad wolf. Puntland knows if Somalia suceeds, they suceed. So it is high time we need to get out of this Puntland is out to destroy Somalia mentality.

its always isaaqs that propagate such an absurd notion through different formats, the important thing is that Somalis will always avoid the failed concept of the strong centralized government. Somalis will always oppose the same fate that has befallen on them on that unfortunate year of 91, where the place Somalis thought home and put all their monies and intellect to only be shot to death, dragged on the streets and chased to the bitter ends of the world. Because of that Xamar will never be the same, it will never be as relevant, and we will never allow 'unukaa leh' crew the luxury to kill others only because the corridors of power is limited to their 'degaan.' thank Allah for federalism

[samatar133]

sagaashan you showed the tpyical behaviour of your people by qabiilizising everything . I will tell you something u either choose to have a Somalia that is fair and equally beneficial to everyone or you will have nothing. I dont understand why you guys are addicted to petty tricks that at best work in a very short period. i dont know why you are not learning anything from history. We wish you luck laakiin idinkuna ficilkeedii la kaalaya.

[udun]

the whole puntland refusal of the draft constituiton is just a bargaining game, nothing more nothing less.

I don't think so. I believe Puntland has Somalia's best interests at heart. I believe Puntland is sincere about ending the transition and having a full functioning government. I believe that Puntland wants Somalia to be economically prosperous and stable. I believe Puntland wants Somalia to be economically integerated, stable, and coheisive. I also believe that Puntland wants a clear constitution that lays out the roles of states/federal levels clearly (albeit in the way it sees fit). I also believe that Puntland doesn't want to give up it's achievements for a faulty system that is not likely to succeed. Puntland has the right to lobby for the best possible solution for Somalia. Puntland is not the big bad wolf. Puntland knows if Somalia suceeds, they suceed. So it is high time we need to get out of this Puntland is out to destroy Somalia mentality.

[greenday]

He said PL problem is which many have pointed out, how does that mean faroole got his way

[D-Runner]

Maamul-goboleedka Puntland ayaa sheegay in 36-qodob oo ku jira dastuurka cusub ee la doonayo in la ansixiyo aysan ku qabansanayn sida ay u qoran yihiin sidaad daraadeedna ay tahay in la bedelo inta aan la ansixin.

Puntland raised 36 relevant issues which it has with the new draft... all sticky issues concerning federalism and how the sharing of natural resources should be allocated. Yet the PM puts such sticky points on bar with non sticky issues such citizenship, language and our religion which are all things we share that could be easily overcame.

PM Abdiwali

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

But here is the trick they want somalia to work in a way that maximises their local interest at the expense of others in the country and that is the source of the current dispute.

Is this guy high or something?

At the f-king expensive of WHO? What can the rest of Somalia offer to Puntland? You act like Puntland are the Saud clan and the rest of Somalia is the oil-rich Eastern Province. As it stands, Puntland is the only region that will even PAY the country's expenses. So not only is Puntland taking the responsibility of facilitating this long peace process, but it is paying the tab afterwards since no one else has their shit together and some regions are even being looted by Kenya.

[CaliBurco]

But here is the trick they want somalia to work in a way that maximises their local interest at the expense of others in the country and that is the source of the current dispute.

Is this guy high or something?

At the f-king expensive of WHO? What can the rest of Somalia offer to Puntland? You act like Puntland are the Saud clan and the rest of Somalia is the oil-rich Eastern Province. As it stands, Puntland is the only region that will even PAY the country's expenses. So not only is Puntland taking the responsibility of facilitating this long peace process, but it is paying the tab afterwards since no one else has their shit together and some regions are even being looted by Kenya.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

^ I don't see what's so funny. While Ogaden resist the Ethios and MJs dig oil in their own backyard, Ethiopia is busy on its own end stealing iidoor oil. "Adigala" block - sounds like a certain qaldaan clan to me.

[Conqueror]

Technically, Faroole followed suit the masses.