is grandpakhalif still pro-arab?

[Based]

How?

Most of present day Kenya and Tanzania was populated by Cushitic speaking peoples before the Bantu expansion. In fact, a recent genetic study showed that 50% of the sampled Masais carried the telltale Cushitic haplogroup e1b1b. If anything, these Somali looking folks are probably the descendants of male Cushites and female Nilotes.

[shaab_]

The Afroasiatic language family was originally a Caucasian language family with people looking like Mediterraneans before they diluted their blood. E1b1b is a Nilotic haplogroup, it's not Afroasiatic. T1 and J1 are Afroasiatic, which are only 20% in Somalis. So Somalis and most Horn Africans are mainly Eastern Nilotic people related to Maasai who lost their original speech and culture.

[Based]

The Afroasiatic language family was originally a Caucasian language family with people looking like Mediterraneans before they diluted their blood. E1b1b is a Nilotic haplogroup, it's not Afroasiatic. T1 and J1 are Afroasiatic, which are only 20% in Somalis.So Somalis and most Horn Africans are mainly Eastern Nilotic people related to Maasai who lost their original speech and culture.

[grandpakhalif]

whats the difference between this man and somali?

egyptian arab

[shaab_]

^ Egyptians are loaded with Nilotic genes.

Somalis mainly have E-M78 which originated in Sudan or Egypt (part of the Nile Basin), therefore Nilotic.

[Based]

I'm getting the feeling you don't understand what nilotic means

According to your definition, a bunch of Greeks, Berbers, and Sicilians are nilotes

[fighter]

Let them claim to be Arab. I dare them to say it infront of an Arab dude. Tell me when you do though. I want to sit with a lawn chair eating pop corn while the Arab dude laughs hysterically and points at you calling you a "kalib aswad" while whipping you with a belt

[shaab_]

I'm getting the feeling you don't understand what nilotic means

A3b, B2a, E1b1b = Nilotic lineages..
The so-called 'Cushitic' look is only because Nilotics mixed with proto-Arabic T1 and J1 people.

Somalis are mainly Nilotic.

[grandpakhalif]

Shaab,

look at these Sudanese Arabs




How come they can claim Arabhood yet I cannot?

[shaab_]

Sudanese Arabs have very high J, which is the real Arabic lineage. Somalis have very little of this only 5%, but 15% T which is an Anatolian lineage. Somalis have more Anatolian blood than Arab, but are overall more Nilotic than anything else.

[Based]

Once again, according to your definition a bunch of Greeks, Berbers, and Sicilians are also Nilotes.

The map I posted highlights the ancient dispersals of the major E1b1b1 lineages.



As you can see, the initial M35 spread into Upper Egypt. Around 7-8kya, a back migration occurred whereby a group now carrying the v12 subclade spread into the horn, while earlier groups spread the m81 subclades into the Maghreb while the v13 subclade of E-M78 spread into Europe.

Since you earlier brought up the Masai, it is interesting to note that according to Wood et al, "The authors observed the E1b1b haplogroup in 50% of the studied Maasai, which is indicative of substantial gene flow from more northerly Cushitic males, who possess the haplogroup at high frequencies.The second most frequent paternal lineage among the Maasai was Haplogroup A3b2, which is commonly found in Nilotic populations, such as the Alur; it was observed in 27% of Maasai males. The third most frequently observed paternal DNA marker in the Maasai was the E1b1a haplogroup (E-P1), which is very common in the Sub-Saharan region; it was found in 12% of the Maasai samples. The Haplogroup B was also observed in 8% of the studied Maasai, which is also found in 30% (16/53) of Southern Sudanese Nilotes".

[shaab_]

Greeks look much swarthier than other Europeans. Just compare them to the Danish, Germans, Swedes etc and you'll notice a stark difference. Greeks are mixed race.

E1b is a Sub-Saharan lineage.

E1b1a begat Niger-Congo people (native West Africans). They entered the tropical forest zone and mixed with Pygmy women and adapted to those conditions (hence the wide noses and wide faces).

E1b1b begat Nilotic people (native East Africans). They traveled up the Eastern Sahel, North Africa, the Horn. Since these areas are drier and/or have higher elevation they got slimmer features and bodies.

[Based]

Greeks look much swarthier than other Europeans. Just compare them to the Danish, Germans, Swedes (Real Europeans) and you'll notice a stark difference. Greeks are mixed race.

E1b is a Negroid lineage.

E1b1a begat Niger-Congo people (native West Africans). They entered the tropical forest zone and mixed with Pygmy women and adapted to those conditions (hence the wide noses and wide faces).

E1b1b begat Nilotic people (native East Africans). They traveled up the Eastern Sahel, North Africa, the Horn. Since these areas are drier and/or have higher elevation they got slimmer features and bodies but still Negroid nonetheless.

Jesus f-king Christ

All this time, you were talking about phenotypes and "Real Europeans". Dude, this is a map of the E haplogroup. It extends all the way to f-king Russia. All of Europe, the Middle East, Turkey, Central Asia and apparently Africa is now nilotic.

Thanks for the info

[shaab_]

Jesus f-king Christ

All this time, you were talking about phenotypes and "Real Europeans". Dude, this is a map of the E haplogroup. It extends all the way to f-king Russia. All of Europe, the Middle East, Turkey, Central Asia and apparently Africa is now nilotic.

Thanks for the info

The Kunama of Eritrea who are remnants of the pre-Afroasiatic Horn have record high E1b1b levels. How would you explain that?
People in the Horn are just Nilotic people subdued by proto-Arab Afroasiatics.

[Based]

Whatever you say bro.

Despite the entire scientific community opining that the E1b1b subclades found amongst many Nilotic peoples is indicative of substantial gene flow from Cushitic males and that Nilotic groups together with the related Nyimang people make up a discrete genetic cluster separated from other clusters in Subsaharan Africa, the Cushitic speaking peoples of the HOA are now Nilotes