Stop the Saudi Hate

[gurey25]

sorry saw athiest gang and assumed..

my bad.

[Executive]

cool i was referring to ppl like union

[SultanOrder]

I could careless for Saudia Arabia, I am not their citizen, there Shariah does not apply to me, and I don't live there. People need to give them a break, they are just a country, that does what most countries do or have done. They do not as far as I am concerned claim to speak for me, or consider me under their jurisdiction. Therefore, I see Saudi Arabia as another state.
As an American, I recognize the constitution over Saudi Sharia or any other countries laws, and I am beholden to America as a resident and citizen. I notice some members have associated their religious views with the modern state of Saudi Arabia, as if those two things coincide. A christian or atheist in Saudi Arabia is under their Shariah than me. So, if there are things that are not good with Saudi Arabia, well hot damn, I can name you 10 countries that are worse.

[Enlightened~Sista]

djibsomali is here, now we are only missing ES, Yalaxow, Beenaale and the atheist gang

thats some great company you put us in.

So anti-salafi means non-muslim in your book does it?

this is not fair yalaxow is anti-islam, the rest are more or less secular and believe secular institutions are superior.

There are many of us out there that are against secualrism and believe in the superiority of shareeca and the sunna.
but do not take their orders from the muftis of the sauds.

Correction, I am not a secularist.

[Executive]

Correction, I am not a secularist.

belated eid mubarak btw

[gurey25]

Correction, I am not a secularist.

Thats good to hear.

[Leftist]

The only One that deserves any respect is Faisal bin abdulaziz.

True say. King Faisal is to House Saud what Omar bin AbdulAziz was to House Ummayah. Virtuous exceptions to an otherwise corrupt & tyrannical ruling family.

King Faisal was inadvertenly assasinated by the hyperliteral-Talafist forces who were unhappy about the modernising reforms he was implementing.

King Faisal ordered a K-thru-12 education for all girls. Talafists were outraged: The idea that females deserve education was and still remains an alien Western concept to the Talafist hordes. No joke, ask them.

Women cannot travel without muxram, or else they go to hell.

Women cannot sit in the same classrom as men, or else they go to hell.

Women must wear face-veil, or else they go to hell.


King Faisal wasn't really down with the whole "follow my hyperliteral intepretation of Islam, or else you will go to hell" dogma, so he forged ahead with education for girls and other reforms. Talafists fought him every step of the way. Eventually, he was assasinated by his nephew who was angry that his ultra-conservative brother was shot dead while leading a protest against TV(TV is Haram!)

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

I hate Saudis, they left the beautiful aqeedah of Al Wala Wal Bara and the beautiful path of Jihad.
Qatalahum-u-ALLAH.

[gurey25]

Thats a good description of faisal, but about TV.
have you seen whats available via sattelite and cable in Saudia and the Middle East?

Saudi policy from the 70's has always to buy and control every available media in the arab world to prevent criticism.
but whats happened is that Saudis own all those Stations boardcasting what would have been considered pornography in the 70s and 80s to every living room.

for you and me we have been de-sensitized and it would appear tame but isnt it wrong to broadcast this in a highly segregated and rigid society?

[Arabmann]

I hate Saudis, they left the beautiful aqeedah of Al Wala Wal Bara and the beautiful path of Jihad.
Qatalahum-u-ALLAH.

Who practices Al Wala Wal Bara nowadays? Al-Shabaab and the Taliban?

[grandpakhalif]

May Allah bless House of Saud, ameen

[Sagaashan]

I just think they need to get a life, some people have un-healthy obsession with Saudi Arabia or the ruling family. Whatever, and move on is my advise, I'm not against critically analysing the state or the country, but there comes a point where you just get tired of the same regurgitate Saudi-phobia. There's the bad, the good and the ugly everywhere, least of all most of your homelands AND where you reside in currently.

Thanks, you are so correct I am just worried that this strong anti-Saudi could trigger into a full fledged opposition to anything Sharia and Islam

[Sagaashan]

examples like this is another reason why i am gaurded against the House of Saud.
The title " custodian of the 2 holy mosques" and image of orthodoxy gives them too much access to young vulnerable minds like the poster above.

I mean if a 12ver shia or an ismacili came to him he will brush them off, but the najdis have direct access to their hearts and souls.

Who the hell trusts Shia, bal fiiri waxaan wallahi the same people who oppose the house of Saud are going around with such filth, where is the alwalaa wal baraa, where is the tawxiid, and using the Kitaab wa Sunnah as a guide.

[Sagaashan]

True say. King Faisal is to House Saud what Omar bin AbdulAziz was to House Ummayah. Virtuous exceptions to an otherwise corrupt & tyrannical ruling family.

King Faisal was inadvertenly assasinated by the hyperliteral-Talafist forces who were unhappy about the modernising reforms he was implementing.

King Faisal ordered a K-thru-12 education for all girls. Talafists were outraged: The idea that females deserve education was and still remains an alien Western concept to the Talafist hordes. No joke, ask them.

Women cannot travel without muxram, or else they go to hell.

Women cannot sit in the same classrom as men, or else they go to hell.

Women must wear face-veil, or else they go to hell.


King Faisal wasn't really down with the whole "follow my hyperliteral intepretation of Islam, or else you will go to hell" dogma, so he forged ahead with education for girls and other reforms. Talafists fought him every step of the way. Eventually, he was assasinated by his nephew who was angry that his ultra-conservative brother was shot dead while leading a protest against TV(TV is Haram!)

Leftist what would you do if you are presented with 'daliil' from the Kitaab wa Sunnah supporting such separation of the sexes. Would you deny it and move and argue that the modern world has advanced and that we should undermine such divine laws. I started this thread b/c their are ulterior motives for going after a religious ruling elite that in words and action enforce the laws of Allah on this earth. I am open to how extent or effective they are, but picking on everything Saudi usually goes deeper than the eye sees.

[AbdiWahab252]