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Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE » Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:53 am

News in from Villa Somalia says Doodishe has been "recommended against" by the international community. The verdict is the man is too much of an "Islamist" more than is considered comdortable by donor countries.

Also Dhulbahante held private meeting with President and I am told made a strong argument to be given PM showing the president the great legitamacy and advantage of a person from territories of former British Somaliland leading the talks against Somaliland.
I don't know how reliable this information is, but I've been told a special convoy were sent to gedo to seek a quality candidate. :?

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Transformer » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:24 am

Murax, you mean to tell us the same Barre Hirale who allied himself with USC; the same Marehan member who despised the the SRRC, which was dominated by Abdullahi Yusuf and Morgan had actually help Abdullahi Yusuf? Trust me your lot knew what they were doing when they chose to be in alliance with the Arta Group (The TNG). The Marehan, through their alliance have tried hard to deter any attempt by Abdullahi Yusuf to get a position of leadership in Somalia.

Abdullahi Yusuf I think is on record saying, “The real war in Somalia is not between Hawiye and Darod, but between Marehan and Majertens. A tone he would play down after becoming the TFG first president, a grave mistake on his part I would say, precisely because it would be an anti-government militias loyal to warlord Hirale that would in the end see Kismayo slip back into under the banner of the Islamic Courts movement. And before the TFG history has it you lot were busy doing the TNG's bidding.

On Kenya how you can be on Abdiwali's case and not Shiikh Shariif's I must say is very revealing. You do know the reason Muqdisho is peaceful is as a result of AMISOM? I think it's about time you lot think out of the box.

It's been game over, in case you haven't noticed, Hawiye no longer beats their drums, they have you and the Khatumites... you call Muqdisho your capital but not one of the 16 districts have Darood Mayor. Trust me any hope Darood has of getting out of this deep hole you treacherous lot have dug us, that rest assure rests with Puntland; Muqdisho's statues in our newly adopted Constitution is in question. Alxamdulilah not all of us are sitting lame ducks.

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby The`Republic » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:25 am

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Adali » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:27 am

If he goes with Harti, prolly it is gonna be one of these:

1- Non MJ but close to Faroole
2- MJ but not close to Faroole

fyi, Harti/Lelkase will bring in 1/3 of the country - unmatched stake. Does he want that massive land in the heart of somalia working for him or against him? That's the puzzle he is trying to solve.

While u guys sucker punch each other about the unnamed PM (president's personal secretary), darod elders (walahi) are in mourning here in Mogadishu. Lelkase chief is trying hard to unite them politically. He is saying either accept political annihilation or get your acts together and work woth one another. They (darods) have 61 members in the parliament but got 47 votes (abdiwali and farmajo), with Abdiwali getting some votes from non-darods while three abgal boys with 11 representatives got almost 200 votes.

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you spoke the truth !

people are already discussing PM possition and I am still recovering from the Epic fail of the Darood candidates, not only did we end up with a second consecutive Abgaal president, but we all witnessed how many votes the Hawiyo candidates got.

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I believe we should have a Marehan PM who can work with Puntland through Darood elders, that is the only way forward.


Patriot, stop worshipping Majerten Cagdheer dhoqon, MJs were the first to rebel against the last Darood government, the first to bring Ethiopians into Darood territory and weaken Marehan in Hawd/ central Somalia in particular. MJs propaganda machine was what incited the genocidal USC onslaught against Marehan and then later against Darood. Did you know the reason why so many Majertens were killed in Mogadishu kaambo amhaar was because they thought they were not going to be targeted since they were supporting USC in pointing the finger at who was Marehan, so they could kill the most random innocent Marehan civilians who was never affiliated with the government in anyway. in the end when there was no more Marehan, USC finished them off brutally and mercilessly. Xamar Unaka leh came about as a result of MJ rebellion, Barawe Unaka leh, Merka Unaka leh even fokin Kismaayo unaka leh baa soo socoto, lets not forget the SNM now Somaliland also praised MJs and SSDF for paving the way for rebellion against the last Darood government, today that is why Dhulbahante are dying defending their lands against Somaliland(entire Isaaq clan) without not as much as a peep from their "Harti" MJ brethren to the East.. during the civil war MJs have been arming subclans of Habar Gidir against MArehan in Galgaduud and Mudug, now Hawiyos actually live in Hawd due to MJs campaign against WAgardhac and Celi of Marehan, it is not only Shisheeye tribes MJs use against DArood subclans, it is other Darood tribes as well, OG in Jubada hoose are like pit bulls for MJs against MArehan, dumb cagdheer coming here with a fuked up mentality spewing nonsense, these people are not Darood saviors, they are slightly more organized than Marehan and Dhulbahante today because not only have they been preparing for the end of Somalia since the 1980s but they have also not faced much war from Hawiyo or Isaaq unlike Marehan and Dhulbahante, these are the most insulated stupidest DAroods ever, they have been making bad decisions for a long time dating back to Sayidka.

Their latest move by Faroole bombarding Leelkase in Gaalkacyo, WTF, this Xabashi name carrying clan is looking out for their own subclan needs and not Darood, they will do nothing to prevent Hutus from saying Unuka leh Somalia, they will sit silently by and watch until Unuka leh comes to Gaalkacyo where they will be raped once again and cry for help from DArood.

If you want to know why Majerten are so fuked up when it comes to Daroodism and tolnimo, look at their internal affairs, Gaalkacyo is the assasination capital of Somalia, and Puntland has dozen of its government workers from mayors to mps to high officials, police commissioners killed in a year. Shit like that does not happen in any other Darood sub clan, how do you expect such people to carry the Darood banner against other tribes.

they are organized to some extend, maybe even have international political recognition, that shit is the only thing missing from Beesha Sade and Dhulbahante, when we get that we will do good by our own tribes and other Daroods that is for sure.

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby The`Republic » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:42 am

Anyway this type of conversation doesn't serve any purpose. If we talk about the past, we only stay in the past. If they all realize political defeat, maybe this is good for them to want to work together better.

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Executive » Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:53 am

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Dhulbahante's guy for PM is the guy on my avatar. He is the founder of Khaatumo state and chairman of Khaatumo executive concil, he lead the Khaatumo I & II conferences, He is also Managing Director and Founder of HESPI (a think thank called Horn Economic & Social Policy Institute: http://www.hespi.org) They have worked closely with TFG, Puntland and Somaliland. He is also the guy who sets TFG's budget. He worked for the IMF for 3 decades holding senior posts.

If you look at the Programs and Project section of there website, you can see him there in conferences with Ghedi, Sharif Hassan, Faroole, Ministory of Finance for Somalia, Somaliland and Puntland. here: http://www.hespi.org/index.php?option=c ... &Itemid=54


This is his background
Dr. Ali Issa Abdi (American) has MBA in International Finance and PhD in Economics.

Dr. Abdi worked as Senior Economist and Manager at the International Monetary Fund for nearly three decades. Most recent assignments at the IMF were as an Advisor in the African region, and Senior Resident Representative in Tanzania (2001-04) and in Ethiopia (1998-2001). Other professional experience includes work as an economist with Citibank and the Central Bank of Somalia; and lecturer in economics at several universities in the United States.

Dr. Abdi provided macroeconomic policy advice to more than 30 countries in Africa, Middle East and the Western Hemisphere, during his distinguished career at the IMF. He participated in the formulation of economic and social policy reforms in many countries in Africa, including Ghana and Nigeria (in the West); Eritrea, Ethiopia, Tanzania, and Uganda (in the East), and Mauritius, Mozambique and Zimbabwe (in the South). Dr. Abdi led staff teams that conducted annual consultations and program negotiations with, and provided technical assistance to member countries of the IMF for many years. Dr. Abdi’s many publications include a book on commercial banks and economic development in Eastern Africa, and articles on economic development and monetary systems, as well as reforms and transformation in low income countries.

He is also the author of some books including

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby LobsterUnit » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:29 am

how comes many candidates studied economics? :ufdup:

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Babygirl- » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:33 am

:lol: at Darood not getting a mayor in Xamar! cause the damn city doesnt belong to you and about Darood mourning I guess someone thinks his clan has the right to all darood votes. we are called Khatumites and our votes are independent we vote with were our intrerest lies. am sorry about your elders mourning. :lol:

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby The`Republic » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:54 am

BG and Executive, you guys are very much in the game according to my update yesterday. Doodishe was the only sure bet and foreign political meddling has sidelined him. It remains to be seen if the President will take up the challenge for his main man but the odds are against this; he is new, powerless, and cannot afford a fight of this nature with donor countries. He may just surprise us but I wouldn't put money on it. This potential exit has opened the doors for many other candidates, mostly Marehan but Dr Ali Ciise a serious contender as well especially since the entire Dhulbahante have lined up behind him and brought him personally to Villa Somalia. The Marehan are fielding tens of candidates good heavens! :lol:

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Babygirl- » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:02 am

We are behind Dr. Ali Isse Abdi, but would support anyone who is not a Farole puppet.

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby The`Republic » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:25 am

I can't even call on this until my next update. He has as much chance as anyone else was what I last got. :up:

And I agree, anyone but a Faroole stooge.

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby abgaalKING » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:10 am

It's been game over, in case you haven't noticed, Hawiye no longer beats their drums, they have you and the Khatumites... you call Muqdisho your capital but not one of the 16 districts have Darood Mayor. Trust me any hope Darood has of getting out of this deep hole you treacherous lot have dug us, that rest assure rests with Puntland; Muqdisho's statues in our newly adopted Constitution is in question. Alxamdulilah not all of us are sitting lame ducks.
Because unlike you,we support Khatumo state and their self-determination while your ilk who are supposed to politically support them are backstabbing them.why do you think Faroole got a heart attack when EX-president Sh.sharif declared his willingness to recognize and work with khatumo? as for the marehan,we believe their interests and ours converge when it comes to certain areas like our committment to peace in the south and we(hawiye) arent the one chearleading for kenyans to score points against a fellow daarood clan.as for Mogadishu it will remain a hawiye degaan just like the way bosaso is majerten city .

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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby GIJaamac » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:57 am

you call Muqdisho your capital but not one of the 16 districts have Darood Mayor.
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Re: Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

Postby Hyperactive » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:21 am

yakhay mey pm naga sameyan voltage ha iska naste!! ya rab qalbiga ninkan o daji.


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