Doodishe has been refused and Dhulbahante ups campaign

[Hyperactive]

well, khair bey ko damani and some brothers wont be happy. inshallah.

[Xamud.]

For all you Daroods mentioning the Garsoor incident we fought, we killed each other and made up within the space of 1 week, Leelkase killed just as many fellow Puntlanders or even more and destroyed just as many buildings and property, at the end of the day we family and the only Darood I want to see in office as PM beside my own clan is Majerteen, instead of hating on Majerteens you should learn from them when it comes to politics, atleast they will not try to please every ceeb and tom in Xamer, they get theirs and for that I respect them.

And for all of you talking about political defeat, naaah not me, am from Puntland and as far as am concerned this new President either pick a PM from Puntland or he is nothing more than the mayor of Mogadishu, at the end of the day this government will never have any real jurisdictions in my land, it will not affect the common Puntlander in Bari or Mudug it will not collect taxs from business in Puntland and it will not be policing Puntland, so who the fukk cares.

Tolkago rac? Who are my tol? let me explain one thing for you, people fight, was it not a section of Majerteen that was attacked by a coalition of clans who were made up by other Puntlanders? there was clan war waged against them, back then Puntland didnt even have a strong army made up by all clans, instead A/Y(AUN) went around and mobilized militia and arms from every single clan from Bari to Mudug to Hawdka? do you see them crying? no they went ahead became the President of Puntland, shit happens, we didnt loose half as much as them and still held our ground, why should I be bitter? I dont understand why you are hell bent on mentioning wax beri dhacay?

My tol are all Daroods when it comes to blood ties, but when it comes to politics my tol are Puntland and only Puntland, markas lay of the pipe young man, I have no time for this "lets talk a walk down memory lane" bullshit

[udun]

I can't even call on this until my next update. He has as much chance as anyone else was what I last got.

And I agree, anyone but a Faroole stooge.

Republic and BG's obsession with PL President A/Rahmaan Faroole is beyond the norm. It seems cuqdad to me. President A/Raxmaan Faroole is running a viable administration that have proven themselves. Whether you like it or not, PLers have built a viable entity in Somalia, and kept the Daarood name very much relevant in Somali politics. If any Daarood mounts a challenge in Somali politics, he must be a PLer. Even if a non-PLer is selected as PM, he is going there because of PL, notwithstanding the involvement of international community

This people are obsessed with Faroole this, Faroole that. I say Faroole raggeedii!!!!

Hate consumes to those who hate!

[Xamud.]

I can't even call on this until my next update. He has as much chance as anyone else was what I last got.

And I agree, anyone but a Faroole stooge.

Republic and BG's obsession with PL President A/Rahmaan Faroole is beyond the norm. It seems cuqdad to me. President A/Raxmaan Faroole is running a viable administration that have proven themselves. Whether you like it or not, PLers have built a viable entity in Somalia, and kept the Daarood name very much relevant in Somali politics. If any Daarood mounts a challenge in Somali politics, he must be a PLer. Even if a non-PLer is selected as PM, he is going there because of PL

Hate consumes to those who hate!

Without Puntland, Darood would be politically dead

[Adali]

Xamud I never said anything along the lines of disowning MJ from Darood, that is just too extreme, what I said is simple, the situation we are in today is 9/10 times due to MJs policies, they are nothing but a destructive parasitic component I'm afraid, they were the first and main tribe to rebel, and as a result tenth of thousands of daroods were killed due to the irresponsible policies of MJs, the fact that they managed to salvage what is today called Puntland after failing to take power in Mogadishu is not impressive , consider the fact that they were the first rebels, what a disgrace, they paved the way for Hawiyo and Isaaq to rule the south and north, and today you rely on the very same people to checkmate Hawiyo ??


for the past 21 years they have not checkmate Hawiyo, and they have completely ignored Isaaq, what a joke, today puntland is more divided than ever, do you think Garsoor is the only incident in Puntland that has shocked me ?? there are the Warsangili in Galgala, the Siwaaqroon in eastern Bari also.

Last but not least, MJs do nothing but try to sabotage Marehan in Jubaland, sabotage Marehan in Galgaduud, sabotage Marehan on the national government stage, why the fok shouldn't I dislike that, do you see Marehan supporting Sacads in Gaalkacyo ? nope. why do MJs support Saleebaan against Wagardhac, killing half of the Wagardhac elders, and one of the major Wagardhac elders was just recently assassinated by Puntland forces.

this parasitic tribe uses and abuses Daroodnimo, but people aren't dumb, everyone will realize it if they haven't already, and when that happens no one will save their ass anymore. Lets just hope their military inventory can actually replace the support from other Daroods they have bleed dry like Marehan who saved their ass in Gaalkacyo.

[Murax]

Xamud,

Let me start off by saying that My mission ama hadaf kayga is not to destroy Hawiye. My mission is to advance the interests of Marexaan period. Say whatever You want about "Darood" yet today it is not Hawiye oo Kenya wato who are trying to genocide MR out of Kismaayo using Kenya, but it is other so called Daroods of which a MJ PM would most likely support wholeheartedly. As a Marexaan, I think pursuing PM is great and if it means concerning the Jubooyinka that we temporarly throw our hats into the Hawiye, Uganda, Ethiopia block to spare Marexaanka in Kista from being bombed to smitherenes I say great, that is great foresight. Maanta hadu Faroole siyaasada Laylkasse matalo ama Siyaasadaada shakhsi ahaan matalo that is absolutely fine and dandy nobody is hating on You for that. However Marexaanka have their own interests, and Dhulbahante have their own interests. There is absolutely no thing such as "Darood" politically. Puntland politically yes it exists and if You subscribe to it fantastic, just don't shove it down every other Daroods face.



As far as a Dhulbahante PM goes Yea, I would absolutely want one if not a Marexaan. I have trust in the tolnimo of Dhulbahante that they wouldn't support or draft policies against us, nor would they parlay with people who hate us. That is ofcourse assuming they are like the mainstream Dhulbahante and not a Udun type.

[Xamud.]

Xamud I never said anything along the lines of disowning MJ from Darood, that is just too extreme, what I said is simple, the situation we are in today is 9/10 times due to MJs policies, they are nothing but a destructive parasitic component I'm afraid, they were the first and main tribe to rebel, and as a result tenth of thousands of daroods were killed due to the irresponsible policies of MJs, the fact that they managed to salvage what is today called Puntland after failing to take power in Mogadishu is not impressive , consider the fact that they were the first rebels, what a disgrace, they paved the way for Hawiyo and Isaaq to rule the south and north, and today you rely on the very same people to checkmate Hawiyo ??


for the past 21 years they have not checkmate Hawiyo, and they have completely ignored Isaaq, what a joke, today puntland is more divided than ever, do you think Garsoor is the only incident in Puntland that has shocked me ?? there are the Warsangili in Galgala, the Siwaaqroon in eastern Bari also.

Last but not least, MJs do nothing but try to sabotage Marehan in Jubaland, sabotage Marehan in Galgaduud, sabotage Marehan on the national government stage, why the fok shouldn't I dislike that, do you see Marehan supporting Sacads in Gaalkacyo ? nope. why do MJs support Saleebaan against Wagardhac, killing half of the Wagardhac elders, and one of the major Wagardhac elders was just recently assassinated by Puntland forces.

this parasitic tribe uses and abuses Daroodnimo, but people aren't dumb, everyone will realize it if they haven't already, and when that happens no one will save their ass anymore. Lets just hope their military inventory can actually replace the support from other Daroods they have bleed dry like Marehan who saved their ass in Gaalkacyo.

The situation we are in today?

When you have the President of Xamer come to your hometown to sing an agreement you suggested and was behind, you mean this situation?when you can successfully block whoever you want from entering the Parliament, design the frigging constitution and push for it to be accepted and fire anyone in your way, or perhaps this situation?, when you have a successful well functioning state that generates millions upon millions from check-points,ports and airports yet at the same time you have, Ministers,MPs, Military officials in Xamer getting their piece of the cake, when you are receiving foreign diplomats and officials in two places. When you have some of the largest teaching institutions in Somalia(including Somaliland)

Thats the situation Puntlanders are in today, I dont know what situation you are talking about, and Puntland is more united today then ever.

[Xamud.]

Xamud,

Let me start off by saying that My mission ama hadaf kayga is not to destroy Hawiye. My mission is to advance the interests of Marexaan period. Say whatever You want about "Darood" yet today it is not Hawiye oo Kenya wato who are trying to genocide MR out of Kismaayo using Kenya, but it is other so called Daroods of which a MJ PM would most likely support wholeheartedly. As a Marexaan, I think pursuing PM is great and if it means concerning the Jubooyinka that we temporarly throw our hats into the Hawiye, Uganda, Ethiopia block to spare Marexaanka in Kista from being bombed to smitherenes I say great, that is great foresight. Maanta hadu Faroole siyaasada Laylkasse matalo ama Siyaasadaada shakhsi ahaan matalo that is absolutely fine and dandy nobody is hating on You for that. However Marexaanka have their own interests, and Dhulbahante have their own interests. There is absolutely no thing such as "Darood" politically. Puntland politically yes it exists and if You subscribe to it fantastic, just don't shove it down every other Daroods face.



As far as a Dhulbahante PM goes Yea, I would absolutely want one if not a Marexaan. I have trust in the tolnimo of Dhulbahante that they wouldn't support or draft policies against us, nor would they parlay with people who hate us. That is ofcourse assuming they are like the mainstream Dhulbahante and not a Udun type.

Who said anything about destroying anyone?


Theres so many flaws in your replay murax, few replays ago you were telling me that I should be neutral , and now your telling me theres no such thing as Darood politically, something I have been saying all along?

You do realize that Kenya would have been bombing Kismaayo with or with out a Marehan PM, their whole war is based on getting rid of Shabab in jubboyinka, the clan of the PM is irrelevant, beside are you telling me that Marehans are not on board? how else do you expect to be back in Kismaayo? Kenyas war on Kismaayo is in your interest if you ever wanna be back in Kismaayo


As for Faroole mataaling anyone siyaasad, bro Faroole is Puntlands current President, he does not= Puntland, he is but our current President.

Your telling me to not shove anything down peoples face(something I have not done), yet your here insulting Udun for his opinions and beliefs? why? who are you to insult him? do you offer him a better political solution than Puntland?

[The_Patriot]

Xamud,

Let me start off by saying that My mission ama hadaf kayga is not to destroy Hawiye. My mission is to advance the interests of Marexaan period. Say whatever You want about "Darood" yet today it is not Hawiye oo Kenya wato who are trying to genocide MR out of Kismaayo using Kenya, but it is other so called Daroods of which a MJ PM would most likely support wholeheartedly. As a Marexaan, I think pursuing PM is great and if it means concerning the Jubooyinka that we temporarly throw our hats into the Hawiye, Uganda, Ethiopia block to spare Marexaanka in Kista from being bombed to smitherenes I say great, that is great foresight. Maanta hadu Faroole siyaasada Laylkasse matalo ama Siyaasadaada shakhsi ahaan matalo that is absolutely fine and dandy nobody is hating on You for that. However Marexaanka have their own interests, and Dhulbahante have their own interests. There is absolutely no thing such as "Darood" politically. Puntland politically yes it exists and if You subscribe to it fantastic, just don't shove it down every other Daroods face.



As far as a Dhulbahante PM goes Yea, I would absolutely want one if not a Marexaan. I have trust in the tolnimo of Dhulbahante that they wouldn't support or draft policies against us, nor would they parlay with people who hate us. That is ofcourse assuming they are like the mainstream Dhulbahante and not a Udun type.

Well spoken @ least least you have lifted the veil. Kismaayo you mentioned has no historical attachement to Marexan its only 9 years of occupation thatconsisted of displacing, looting,plundering, killilling,raping and confisicating the properties of its locals.Knowyou advocate for the rights of the criminals and lobby for a Marexan PM who will facilitate and reinstate the same terror in Juboyinka is the paramaount interest of Marexan. Times have changed my dear its not like we are in the JVA era where you used C/Qassim to instal terror in Kismaayo. If stability is needed in Somalia then it would be very Ironic for the new president to support walalaha galgaduud creating illegal settlements in Juboyinka.

I do support a PL PM.Because rebuilding Somalia means equally apportioning Development aid to all regions and not selectively initiating instability in one region in an effort to divert funds to only Xamar.
Apart from that they are our partners against Iidoor aggression.

PL is Absame ally irregardless of Faroole.

[Murax]

You do realize that Kenya would have been bombing Kismaayo with or with out a Marehan PM, their whole war is based on getting rid of Shabab in jubboyinka, the clan of the PM is irrelevant, beside are you telling me that Marehans are not on board? how else do you expect to be back in Kismaayo? Kenyas war on Kismaayo is in your interest if you ever wanna be back in Kismaayo?

Kenya is there for their own reasons. Cabdiwali Gaas gave them everything from Somali territorial waters, to signing off on the operation and supporting it, to flying to Nairobi every other week. You think Kenya was pushing this hard for Him to become Pres/PM because they like His glasses? All this He was doing according to advice from Puntland so they can ensure their little stake in the Jubbas and establish a Kablalax dominated admin in Kista. As for MR getting back to Kismaayo, I guess it wasn't the Kenyan Defense Spokesman who talked about Marehan militias on the radio supporting Shishkabab. We're there already but ofcourse We don't control it. Yet at least for the time being we're not being targeted due to our qabiil by Shishkabab.


About Udun, Yea that was a little uncaleld for He does have a right to His opinion. Infact everyone does which is what we can agree on. My whole arguement was basically refuting this silly logic that any PM other than MJ becoming PM is bad for Darood interests which I say is hogwash.




The Patriot,

Rageedi baad tahay. I understand 100% why You would want one and why You feel how You feel. We all have our reasons to support who we want to support and You're entitled to that. Lets stop adeegida magaca Darood just because some subsets of it don't get what they want. If a MR doesn't become PM I won't be crying Darood.

[abgaalKING]

PL is Absame ally irregardless of Faroole.

What do you think Pl Can offer you except some talk on the radio? You should know that pl is a b!tch in xamar and even their elders are being arrested left and right by a murusade guy called gaafow and they cant even talk about it.yet made calaacal about some guys in the parliament and hey eventually they were sworn in to be rubbed in their faces.plers can do faan in qardho or garowe but when they are in xamar they will be reduced to our subordinates.

as for marehan,we believe their piece of the cake in jubba should be handled to them in silver plate.


Lastly,wether you like it or not,hawiye has more influence in jubbaland then your so called ally pl and if you declare us enemies then i am sure you are digging your graves too soon.

[udun]

Xamud,

Let me start off by saying that My mission ama hadaf kayga is not to destroy Hawiye. My mission is to advance the interests of Marexaan period. Say whatever You want about "Darood" yet today it is not Hawiye oo Kenya wato who are trying to genocide MR out of Kismaayo using Kenya, but it is other so called Daroods of which a MJ PM would most likely support wholeheartedly. As a Marexaan, I think pursuing PM is great and if it means concerning the Jubooyinka that we temporarly throw our hats into the Hawiye, Uganda, Ethiopia block to spare Marexaanka in Kista from being bombed to smitherenes I say great, that is great foresight. Maanta hadu Faroole siyaasada Laylkasse matalo ama Siyaasadaada shakhsi ahaan matalo that is absolutely fine and dandy nobody is hating on You for that. However Marexaanka have their own interests, and Dhulbahante have their own interests. There is absolutely no thing such as "Darood" politically. Puntland politically yes it exists and if You subscribe to it fantastic, just don't shove it down every other Daroods face.



As far as a Dhulbahante PM goes Yea, I would absolutely want one if not a Marexaan. I have trust in the tolnimo of Dhulbahante that they wouldn't support or draft policies against us, nor would they parlay with people who hate us. That is ofcourse assuming they are like the mainstream Dhulbahante and not a Udun type.

Udun is mainstream

[Executive]

Xamud,

Let me start off by saying that My mission ama hadaf kayga is not to destroy Hawiye. My mission is to advance the interests of Marexaan period. Say whatever You want about "Darood" yet today it is not Hawiye oo Kenya wato who are trying to genocide MR out of Kismaayo using Kenya, but it is other so called Daroods of which a MJ PM would most likely support wholeheartedly. As a Marexaan, I think pursuing PM is great and if it means concerning the Jubooyinka that we temporarly throw our hats into the Hawiye, Uganda, Ethiopia block to spare Marexaanka in Kista from being bombed to smitherenes I say great, that is great foresight. Maanta hadu Faroole siyaasada Laylkasse matalo ama Siyaasadaada shakhsi ahaan matalo that is absolutely fine and dandy nobody is hating on You for that. However Marexaanka have their own interests, and Dhulbahante have their own interests. There is absolutely no thing such as "Darood" politically. Puntland politically yes it exists and if You subscribe to it fantastic, just don't shove it down every other Daroods face.



As far as a Dhulbahante PM goes Yea, I would absolutely want one if not a Marexaan. I have trust in the tolnimo of Dhulbahante that they wouldn't support or draft policies against us, nor would they parlay with people who hate us. That is ofcourse assuming they are like the mainstream Dhulbahante and not a Udun type.

Udun is mainstream

Deluded nacas, they guy who constantly badmouths Dhulbahante and its elders kulahaa I am mainstream All the forumers have seen you as the filth that you are, its no secret.

[EastAfrica]

Today Darood are more politically divided than ever before, so politically there is no such thing as Darood or Harti.

Darood were divided during the recent presidential election, and now they are divided on who should be the PM.

Khaatumo want Pro-Khaatumo PM like DR. Cali Ciise or Prof Farmaajo

Mareexaan want Pro-Mareexaan PM like Doodishe, Farmaajo, or Dr. Cali Ciise


Puntland want Pro-Faroole PM ( MJ or non-MJ who is pro-faroole)

[Xamud.]

You do realize that Kenya would have been bombing Kismaayo with or with out a Marehan PM, their whole war is based on getting rid of Shabab in jubboyinka, the clan of the PM is irrelevant, beside are you telling me that Marehans are not on board? how else do you expect to be back in Kismaayo? Kenyas war on Kismaayo is in your interest if you ever wanna be back in Kismaayo?

Kenya is there for their own reasons. Cabdiwali Gaas gave them everything from Somali territorial waters, to signing off on the operation and supporting it, to flying to Nairobi every other week. You think Kenya was pushing this hard for Him to become Pres/PM because they like His glasses? All this He was doing according to advice from Puntland so they can ensure their little stake in the Jubbas and establish a Kablalax dominated admin in Kista. As for MR getting back to Kismaayo, I guess it wasn't the Kenyan Defense Spokesman who talked about Marehan militias on the radio supporting Shishkabab. We're there already but ofcourse We don't control it. Yet at least for the time being we're not being targeted due to our qabiil by Shishkabab.


About Udun, Yea that was a little uncaleld for He does have a right to His opinion. Infact everyone does which is what we can agree on. My whole arguement was basically refuting this silly logic that any PM other than MJ becoming PM is bad for Darood interests which I say is hogwash.




The Patriot,

Rageedi baad tahay. I understand 100% why You would want one and why You feel how You feel. We all have our reasons to support who we want to support and You're entitled to that. Lets stop adeegida magaca Darood just because some subsets of it don't get what they want. If a MR doesn't become PM I won't be crying Darood.

Theres not a single piece of evidence that anyone can provide that shows that Dr Abdiweli Gaas had anything to do with signing of the territorial waters of Somalia, and only with the support of the parliament would that be legit, and theres nothing wrong with giving Kenya the green light in liberating Kismaayo and installing a Puntland backed adminstration, that only means one more thing, more power and I wish our Cagdheer cousins all the best, hopefully they will manage to create a well established state