Somalia and Somaliland solution - is it possible if...

[haxxor]

Somalia allows Somaliland to be like Hong Kong which is part of China but their own government system, flag and everything.

[Meyle]

The Somaliland - Somalia situation is very complex and can't be solved unless all Somalis realize that we have to stop the clanism, the hatred, the egoism and understand that if we're united we can achieve greatness.

Suldaan Timacadde once said ''Dugsmi maleh qabyaaladi waxay dumiso mooyaane.

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[LiquidHYDROGEN]

How many times has this topic been discussed. Solutions can be made if both sides are willing to compromise and make rational decisions. If SL had economic and political autonomy while still being a region of Somalia it would work. Unfortunately, telling somalis to be rational is like trying to fantasies about Hilary Clinton - not an easy task.

The more pressing issue is eliminating alshabab and restoring peace to the south.

[Meyle]

How many times has this topic been discussed. Solutions can be made if both sides are willing to compromise and make rational decisions. If SL had economic and political autonomy while still being a region of Somalia it would work. Unfortunately, telling somalis to be rational is like trying to fantasies about Hilary Clinton - not an easy task.

The more pressing issue is eliminating alshabab and restoring peace to the south.

[The_Emperior5]

As if somalia is china with the biggest industries in the world and the fastest growing economy in the world.

Why do people compare oranges to apples.

The only Solution for Somaliland and Somalia is the two state solution noting else anything else is useless.

[Meyle]

As if somalia is china with the biggest industries in the world and the fastest growing economy in the world.

Why do people compare oranges to apples.

The only Solution for Somaliland and Somalia is the two state solution noting else anything else is useless.

China has many different ethnicities, languages, religions and is still united on the basis of economic progress (every region is too valuable). When it comes to Somalia-Somaliland though, the idea of being united is far fetched according to some.

[Khalid Ali]

As if somalia is china with the biggest industries in the world and the fastest growing economy in the world.

Why do people compare oranges to apples.

The only Solution for Somaliland and Somalia is the two state solution noting else anything else is useless.

China has many different ethnicities, languages, religions and is still united on the basis of economic progress (every region is too valuable). When it comes to Somalia-Somaliland though, the idea of being united is far fetched according to some.

China has a long history and civilization the shang dynasty the han dynasty the emperor Gazu of han and many more Chinese legends. Somalilanders and Koonfurians dont share such a history or civilization despite speaking the same language they hardly agree on anything Politically socially Historically . Eventhough Somalilanders are very reasonable they would welcome Economic progress for both Somaliland and Somalia. But no political unity whats so ever been there done that.

[Meyle]

As if somalia is china with the biggest industries in the world and the fastest growing economy in the world.

Why do people compare oranges to apples.

The only Solution for Somaliland and Somalia is the two state solution noting else anything else is useless.

China has many different ethnicities, languages, religions and is still united on the basis of economic progress (every region is too valuable). When it comes to Somalia-Somaliland though, the idea of being united is far fetched according to some.

China has a long history and civilization the shang dynasty the han dynasty the emperor Gazu of han and many more Chinese legends. Somalilanders and Koonfurians dont share such a history or civilization despite speaking the same language they hardly agree on anything Politically socially Historically . Eventhough Somalilanders are very reasonable they would welcome Economic progress for both Somaliland and Somalia. But no political unity whats so ever been there done that.

They don't have a common history... The dynasties you're speaking never came in contact with people that today live under the Peoples republic of China.

The reason why you don't see similarities among Somalis is because you have an agenda. If you want to see differences then you'll see differences even when the factors that unites us are far more than the factors that divides us.

[PrinceDaadi]

I think we should go our seperate ways because as many members said in this thread there is no rationality b/w the two entities.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Its not going to work pal. Any form of unity wont happen.

[Meyle]

Its not going to work pal. Any form of unity wont happen.

It will Inshallah. Don't be pessimistic...

[Khalid Ali]

This is what i think the Somali speaking people in the horn of Africa do not share the same history political culture traditions ethics dialects different various tribes. What they do share is the same language same religion and same traditional clothing and Food. if you look at our neighbors Ethiopia an oromo or gurage considers him an Ethiopian because they share the same history even-though they don't share the same ethnicity or religion. or china Miao and zuang and other tribes of china they do share the same history and culture to some extend.The Somali speaking people are different when you have people from the same tribe handing their fellow kin to Ethiopia when you have leaders like faroole who utters the Ogaden Somalis are not Somalis but they have learned the language of the Somalis. When you have people from the same tribe using external powers kenya and Ethiopia to achieve their subclanish objectives. You know you cant compare ur self to People who built empires and civilizations the past 2000 years or even more.

[Meyle]

This is what i think the Somali speaking people in the horn of Africa do not share the same history political culture traditions ethics dialects different various tribes. What they do share is the same language same religion and same traditional clothing and Food. if you look at our neighbors Ethiopia an oromo or gurage considers him an Ethiopian because they share the same history even-though they don't share the same ethnicity or religion. or china Miao and zuang and other tribes of china they do share the same history and culture to some extend.The Somali speaking people are different when you have people from the same tribe handing their fellow kin to Ethiopia when you have leaders like faroole who utters the Ogaden Somalis are not Somalis but they have learned the language of the Somalis. When you have people from the same tribe using external powers kenya and Ethiopia to achieve their subclanish objectives. You know you cant compare ur self to People who built empires and civilizations the past 2000 years or even more.

I don't need to compare myself or other Somalis to people that built great civilizations because great civilization existed in whats today known as Somalia. Ancient Egyptians, Hellenistic Greece, Romans, Persians and Phoenicians used to come to dhulkeena, hadii aanu nahay dad liita miyey noo iman lahaayeen? Thats not even all, The Ancient Egyptians especially the Pharaohs used to say that they originally came from whats today known as Somalia. They called it the Land of the Ancestors and The Land of the Gods. They described it as a place with abundant frankincense and myrrh terraces. Just by the description you can tell its waqooyiga Somaliya / Somaliland. The only region that to this day exports frankincense and myrrh.

[sahal80]

The somaliland problem is not a cultural or a language problem(nation) its a legal and statehood problem(nationality). Take an example for polisario, they have the same language and culture of morocco yet they gained an african recognition, some arab countries as a country and the UN being recognizing them as a leadership or the sole representative of the sahrawi people. This is because they have been forced to join morocco and was fighting for their liberation before and after the spanish withdrawal of their land. They didn't get through because morocco, israel and america are an allied nations.
On the other hand somaliland and somalia have united in a week after they both gained their librations from two different countries. Here, one has to concentrate on the sort of morality, its up to somaliland and somalia there is no other way.

[kambuli]

Warkii oo gaaban........Midnimada Somalia waa muqaddas...
Iskusoo wada duuboo...Midnimada Somalia waa muqaddas....

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