Somali youth must disinherit forefather's mindset

AgentOfChaos · Postby **AgentOfChaos** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:28 pm

Wtf you talking about man?

Alphanumeric · Postby **Alphanumeric** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:31 pm

union · Postby **union** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:34 pm

These "cultural traditions" you speak of have not been working out for the Somali people, as evidenced by their complete lack of history and civilization and their current predicament. Perhaps it's hightime they embraced the cultural values of more potent societies, as that is, after all, the way failing societies move forward?
If that's what you're waiting for, might wanna take a seat. Don't hold your breath though. Could be a few more generations till things "move forward".

The Somalis have already progressed rather quickly from a nebulous group of illiterate nomadic tribes, to a literate nation-state at the beginning stages of democracy. This was under the influence of more advanced societies. With a little more gentle guidance (carrot-stick approach) I trust we'll be forced to change for the better....sooner

Are you in favor of embracing "cultural traditions" at the expense of progress?

Alphanumeric · Postby **Alphanumeric** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:38 pm

Which is it? The carrot or the stick?

I'm in favour of representing whatever the people choose to adhere to, so long as it does not infringe on minorities. If so, tweaking should do it right.

AgentOfChaos · Postby **AgentOfChaos** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:39 pm

You should have known better damn it!

grandpakhalif · Postby **grandpakhalif** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:42 pm

The reality is Western civilization is on the decline, the US dollar is on the verge of collapse and nuclear war is imminent. Thus shall arise a new dawn, Islamic civilization ruled by the noble Mahdi awaiting the second Messiah. Indeed when he arrives we shall be saved from the rapture.

Alphanumeric · Postby **Alphanumeric** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:02 pm

You should have known better damn it!

You rambled on to the point where I got lost.

AgentOfChaos · Postby **AgentOfChaos** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:04 pm

You should have known better damn it!
You rambled on to the point where I got lost.

My bad, I will tone down my sarcasm. :meles:

Postby **Basra-** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:05 pm

'Somali youth must disinherit forefather's mindset'

Union, And become atheist---LIKE YOU??? I DONT think so.

Negritude · Postby **Negritude** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:10 pm

Fuck qabyaalad I say, FUCK IT!

You can try, but you might find yourself being chased by her 19 brothers.

It's a reality that can't be overlooked. For now. Hopefully, with time, people will have had enough of it. I wonder how those on the ground see it.

I suppose that's all that matters. Once all the killing is dealt with, of course.

Alphanumeric · Postby **Alphanumeric** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:11 pm

^Yup. Nothing we here say has any worth, if we're not able to adjust perspectives there.

ZubeirAwal · Postby **ZubeirAwal** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:12 pm

Union the secular world has done nothing but brought damnation upon Somalis, actually not Somalis but the whole world. Union as i assume your a Muslim , as a Muslim you and i must take the kitab as a book that can explain all things, and that includes this strange ever-still evolving world we live in today and which is why Allah said
"Wa nazzalnaa alaykal kitaab tibyan li-kulli shay-in"
"And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things" [16;89], So you musn't look to nowhere else other then your own resources, for if one is born muslim he is born upon the ultimatly correct path of mankind, and that he has all he needs to form a surviving legislation, not one where the usurper reaps of the sweat , blood and tears of a worker, that does not work in Islam, and if it is brought into a Islamic nation, that nation is void from the blessings and mercy of god, it faces hardships because of the Muslims who rule the nation did not do their duty, rather they went against the very code of the quran. And so my point is solely the qur'an alone, if interpreted and understood correctly is sufficient in forming a rule or some form of legislation or jurisprudence in a muslim nation, this does not go for non-muslim nations because they can rule their nations as they wish, but ours is a obligation and is compulsory to rule with the rule of allah, and that is not the sharia preached by the neo-salafis and the likes of anjem choudary, but the sharia of Umar bin Khattab that where Jews and Christians lived peacefully under his rule.

eliteSomali · Postby **eliteSomali** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Speak for yourself. I personally have no problems with my forefathers' mindsets.

union · Postby **union** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:13 pm

Which is it? The carrot or the stick?

I'm in favour of representing whatever the people choose to adhere to, so long as it does not infringe on minorities. If so, tweaking should do it right.

Both. Drones for Al Shabab, millions in aid for the western friendly government.

Negritude · Postby **Negritude** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:15 pm

I wonder what the mindset of your grandchildren will be.

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