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Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby SahanGalbeed » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:36 pm

War waxan dumarkan la caayayo iyo naga saara .
Ina aadan , dawladda Somaliya ma' ka mid tihiin haa iyo maya ?
Haddaad ka mid tihiin , cid walba ay idiin soo dirto u adkaysta .
Haddeydan ku jirin oo masuul idin gaar ah oo Somalia aan ka mid ahayn na sheeganaysaan , de wixii lagu heeshiyay bilowgii ma ahayn oo Kenya ayaa loo raacaya .
Kenya ayaa Ogadenka masulyada ugu hiilisay Kismaayo , weligiin ha ilaawina taas .
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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby abgaalKING » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:37 pm

This is what i was talking about when i pointed out the hegemonic ambitions in the Region,ahmed madoobe as a clueless cagdheer is spearheading these ambitions of Second NFD but the question is how long will it take before the locals resist this kenyan agenda ?

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:38 pm

Fowsiyadu waa qoloma tolow :lol: .sxb waad u gafaysaa e bal u kaadi ictiraaf ma haysee.
fowsiya waa dir isaaq maaha, takale I would kick all the women out of the govt.

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby Eaglehawk » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:44 pm

ina adan, raggu waa siyaasad dumarkuna waa shaah

eaglehawk, for the most part our women do not go into politics

siren, foreigners? hows adeer david bowie

btw, the most popular town is actually lascanod for SL soldiers 8-)
laascanod wiil dhulbahante ba jooga, why is that the isaaq soldiers don`t leave their barracks.
my dad went through laascanod few years ago and wallahi the isaaq live in a barracks outside the city and local dhulbahante guys bring them food and they are always bodyguards for dhulbahantes talk about dying for dhulbahante cause
mainly Jamaac siyaad and bahararsame guys are the once that petrole the city ( the isaaq there are merceniers)

lakin adeer xaabsade, xaglatoosiye and Kayse Cabdi Yuusuf why do they always smile :D
xaabsade ba la wediyay marku tagay hargeisa, xaabsadow maxad ku jeclataty hargeisa?
markaas bu xaabsade yiri: adeer xalay saan u qoslay weligay uma qoslin :lol: :lol: it doesn`t take a genious to decypher the hospitality that the idoor provided

look at the smile of xaabsade, there are entire dhulbahante divisions in hargeisa what is the name of ina garaad soofe, do you think dhulbahante soldiers are hanging about in hargeisa, nigga this las vegas everbody chews and goes to gunter palace
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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby ina aadan » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:45 pm

Dowlada Fadaraalaka Somaaliya banu ka midnahay lakin manihi dawlada xasan jadiid.
Sahanow xininyahaad hargaysa iyo somaliland oo dhanba ku sheegato, hadii aan kismaayo ku sheegto maxaan bi'iyay.

Hadii ay somaliya iyo somaliland heshiyaan miyaad aqbalilahay in moorgan looso diro hargaysa.

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:46 pm

if wishes were horses beggars would ride....

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby SahanGalbeed » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:47 pm

:lol: , good point , waad iga heshay , I will stop here for today .

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby ina aadan » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:50 pm

:lol: , good point , waad iga heshay , I will stop here for today .
:up: Gobonio.

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:59 pm

Sometimes as a reporter, you can feel out on a limb, isolated both physically and in the way you understand a story.

And so it is here in Kismayo – the hot, dry port city in southern Somalia, where the afternoon breezes whip up gritty red dust that gets into your teeth.

We’re told that Kismayo is a beautiful city.

I'll have to take their word for it, because it looks as though we are not going to see it.

Kismayo has been an elusive story, ever since the Kenyan military successfully pushed al-Shabab out, just over a month ago.

The town is the heart of the south – the economic hub that connects southern Somalia with neighbours Kenya and Ethiopia.

It has a devilishly complex mix of clans with a history of conflict.

An increasingly rancorous argument over who should control the port threatens to shatter the fragile peace that settled in here after al-Shabab left.

On top of it, there is the charcoal – a multi-million dollar stockpile that I wrote about previously that has become the focus of a row between the Kismayo business community, neighbouring states and Mogadishu.

All those problems have made the town an icon of the wider crisis facing Somalia, which is why it is so fascinating for journalists covering the country.

But from the outset, access has been almost impossible.

The Kenyan military, fighting in African Union helmets, have been in control of "Sector 2" – the southern portion of the country – for much of the past year. You can’t get in or out of Kismayo without their say-so.

Land, sea and air routes are all theirs. That makes independent travel impossible.

Believe me – we have considered everything from chartering our own aircraft to getting on a local fishing trawler to get in, and not one is likely to get us past the edge of town.

So, official visits are the only option, and we have had no less than five false starts.

For reasons that have never fully been explained, every time we have been invited on one, it has been cancelled.
In the absence of any clear answers, it has been increasingly hard to escape the conclusion that someone is trying to hide things.

So when the opportunity finally came to join a special presidential task force on a visit to Kismayo, it seemed that at last our luck had changed.

Surely, a high-level delegation sent from the president himself to investigate charcoal, would be able to move through all the parts of town that we were interested in – the charcoal stockpiles, the port, the business community... What could go wrong?

Plenty, it turns out.

Just before the task force was due to board the aircraft along with a group of journalists, we here told the flight had been cancelled due to "security concerns" that were never fully explained.

Two days later, we finally flew in, but on arrival, the sector commander anounced that Ahmed Madobe – the commander of the Ras Kamboni militia that has been working with the Kenyans to oust al-Shabab – had declined to see anyone with the group.

While the Kenyans control access to town, Madobe controls its centre, so without his say-so, movement is impossible.

And worse, he warned he couldn’t guarantee security if anyone left the airport compound.

To the delegates, that sounded like a thinly veiled threat, and the Kenyans seemed to be more prepared to do Madobe’s bidding than the president’s.

So, what is really going on in Kismayo? We still don’t know.

The charcoal task force was put on a plane straight back to Mogadishu, well short of the three days they had planned to spend in the town.

And the journalists are still stuck.

There is no plane to take us out, and Madobe won’t let us go in.

We are so close, and yet so far…

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http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/africa/ ... ar-kismayo

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby original dervish » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:07 pm

This "journalist" should be asking why a notorious war criminal is leading a "charcoal" taskforce to the scene of his crimes against humanity.
Furthermore, the threats that he is implying come from Madobe, are actually from Al Shabaab remnants still hiding out in the city.

This is not objective journalism, rather anti darood propaganda.
The Qataris who own Al Jazeera have a hidden agenda in Somalia.

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby original dervish » Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:07 pm

This "journalist" should be asking why a notorious war criminal is leading a "charcoal" taskforce to the scene of his crimes against humanity.
Furthermore, the threats that he is implying come from Madobe, are actually from Al Shabaab remnants still hiding out in the city.

This is not objective journalism, rather anti darood propaganda.
The Qataris who own Al Jazeera have a hidden agenda in Somalia.

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby razer » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:02 pm

:D :lol:
So government officials cant visit a city in ther own country ?
Mwai Kibaki, prepare for a war motherf***** !!
What can the "Somali Army" formed up of 2 bit hutu militias do :umad:
KDF will not be in Kismaayo forever ! Iska raaxeyso intay kula sii joogaayaan ![/quote]

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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby Colonel » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:09 pm

Two days later, we finally flew in, but on arrival, the sector commander anounced that Ahmed Madobe – the commander of the Ras Kamboni militia that has been working with the Kenyans to oust al-Shabab – had declined to see anyone with the group.

While the Kenyans control access to town, Madobe controls its centre, so without his say-so, movement is impossible.

And worse, he warned he couldn’t guarantee security if anyone left the airport compound.
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Re: Kenyans Deny Access to Kismayo for Somali Govt

Postby Substance » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:13 pm

This is what i was talking about when i pointed out the hegemonic ambitions in the Region,ahmed madoobe as a clueless cagdheer is spearheading these ambitions of Second NFD but the question is how long will it take before the locals resist this kenyan agenda ?
Not very long i would guess. The fufus has not been seen as a occupiers because of extreme shabbab but they are in every sense occupiers and they made it official when denying the somali gov entry.
Local and national resist will start, no doubt.


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