If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogaden?

[greenday]

I think its good that people are thinking like this, we needto distinguish between those from Somalia and those that are not, I do not think I have rights to any nationality other than somalia's, Somali from ethiopia, kenya and dabuti. Should not have this right, I mean if somalinimo was enough all somalis from sonmalia who live in these countries would have citizenship!

Too many greedy people aa adunka joogo.

[original dervish]

Strange how this discussion came about when Madobe touched down in Kismayo.
You gotta hand it to these HAG folks, they`re in a league of their own when it comes to wickedness.

[Colonel]

Ogaden is its own nation and just like our ancestors, we do not respect the laws of the white man (in this instance we refer to the European created countries)

@Coldoon

[The_Patriot]

We simply dont give a sh!t.
We were in Juboyinka more than 100yrs even before Somalia was created. Why would I seek Somalianimo from folks who destroyed Somalia?
I think this is a weak arguement.They Hawiye claimmed they were majority in NFD even after Caydiid tried to arm Degodia against the Ogaden and we kicked their butts so hard that they came to their senses. The same happened in Ogadenia when the entire somali clans ganged on us and with the help of Meles they created fake constituencies argueing that we are minorities but that failed too.Know the last card is Somalia and we dont give a fck about Somalia but Jubotinka is our land period.
Voltage on the other hand what makes you different?Arrent your parents not born in Qelaafo and Shilaabo?
Axmed Madhoobe was actually born in kismaayo thats one of the reasons he doesnt entertain gases.
Lastly even if Ogaden were to vacate Juboyinka Marexan would follow us simply because Hawiye n Raxaweyn will not tolerate you folks so our presence to you is a necessary evil.

[waryaa]

guys, hold your horses - i mean both sides. Today my car and I were almost ran over by a column of armored Ugandan vehicles. It was like wow what a sigh - we escaped! Even had they hit us, I'd still would've wanted them to stick around as they are the only alternative to Shababs.

If AMISOM leaves then shabab with or without their current name will resurface. Ethiopia and Kenya will also be around arming the weak to keep the status quo. Somalia is like a bunch prostitutes being fought over by pimps with different personalities... If pimp A can't get all the girls he'll try to get at least some of them. The question is can we put our differences aside and get under one unified pimping enterprise?

[Hyperactive]

wa on hit and run, untill one group got to their sense and become rightious. nationalism , never got us (muslims)any where and dont put much of thoughts about it. as one of you said, that's gaalo laws , to divide people. Allah said; you're one nation and Your God is one. wa on iska aduun waha la isku haysto.

[metamorphosis]

More from the weak links and their sympathizers. I am sure voltage would love this to be implimented. We dont want somalinimo... Jubbaland is enough for us. The rest of Somalia can be lost to the sea for all i care. xaajadu haday halkaas gaadho you will see mass resettlements of ogs in jubbaland so that we will protect it from these resentful animals.

[original dervish]

Meta

Don`t over do it mate, we all need a strong functioning Somalia to prosper.
I`m one of the biggest critics of this HAG Govt, but haven`t given up on Somalia.

Hassan Sheikh will go the way of Abdulqasim, hopefully sooner rather than later.

[metamorphosis]

Original we cant share a country with uncivilized savages bro. Somalinimo is a good concept but its not a feasible one. He isnt my president as far as I care. Its only a matter of time before jubbaland is established and once that happens we are done with these mammals.

[illuminatizz]

More from the weak links and their sympathizers. I am sure voltage would love this to be implimented. We dont want somalinimo... Jubbaland is enough for us. The rest of Somalia can be lost to the sea for all i care. xaajadu haday halkaas gaadho you will see mass resettlements of ogs in jubbaland so that we will protect it from these resentful animals.

Jubbaland doesnt belong to you And if you dont want somalia Go back to your kenya or what ever Hole your immigrants Crawled out.The hawiye degaan will be protected at all cost.

[metamorphosis]

More from the weak links and their sympathizers. I am sure voltage would love this to be implimented. We dont want somalinimo... Jubbaland is enough for us. The rest of Somalia can be lost to the sea for all i care. xaajadu haday halkaas gaadho you will see mass resettlements of ogs in jubbaland so that we will protect it from these resentful animals.

Jubbaland doesnt belong to you And if you dont want somalia Go back to your kenya or what ever Hole your immigrants Crawled out.The hawiye degaan will be protected at all cost.

If it doesnt belong to me come set foot in it. War hawiyuhu anigu binu aadmba u marko. Waa dad iska xoolah oo iska cawaan ah. Caydiid is not here to save you this time.

[illuminatizz]

Lol,Waryaa,Stop the Hot air,Kismayo and Jubbaland Hawiye Kama Xigtid and the soon you realize this the better,Enjoy your little fantasy until the Reality sets in,We will deal with kenya as government and people adiga waxaad tahay Puppet xun oo mar walba wixii la rabo lagu shubto.

[metamorphosis]

How far is the sky?

[original dervish]

Everybody cool down.
The J/Land issue will be settled through dialogue.

All J/Land groups will have their rights respected.
The Govt doesn`t care for the Hawiye of J/Land, they`re trying to use them to destabilise the region.
From what I can gather the Hawiye, like all J/Land clans, are very supportive of the process.

[Eaglehawk]

voltage you are right its called unintended consequence


that idea of ogaden being the foreigner has been around since the 60s, its mainly a isaaq, majerteen and hawiye idea
sometimes I think somalida have no clue that ogadeen is one of the biggest clans in south somalia
if you ask a somali, who lives in bakool? they would say raxanwayn not knowing ogadeen lives there in large numbers

the marexaan in gedo are seen as citizen of somalia but what always amazes me; is how people call ogadeenka jubada hoose and jubada dexe qaxooti, not knowing that reer gedo and the ogadeen came the same time.

cagdheerka wax ka siyasad xun weligay ma arkin because in essence ogadeenka wa dad fican they are less Machiavellian and in somalia a ogadeen is the only one that will give you warning before he kills you.

voltage most ogaden won`t understand or be alarmed about what you mean with "mainstream" and what the political ramification that will have in the future