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If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogaden?

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby guhad122 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:21 am

Guhad-

It is understandable to see you so emotional considering this is a sensitive topic for you.
Voltage,
Did you work behind the scenes to have my post with the Dhoodaan gabay deleted? :lol: :lol: Unfortunately that gabay is all over the place. So since you claim your ancestors were from Wardheer, why do you care about Somali affairs and who is Somali and who is not. And honestly, I would have loved the OG in Ogadenia or as they call them in Jubaland the Galti to leave Jubaland affairs for the natives but in Somali culture, clan determines everything including your identity, and nationality. So there is nothing to be emotional about this.

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby DANGIRL » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:34 am

Guhad-

It is understandable to see you so emotional considering this is a sensitive topic for you.
Voltage,
Did you work behind the scenes to have my post with the Dhoodaan gabay deleted? :lol: :lol: Unfortunately that gabay is all over the place. So since you claim your ancestors were from Wardheer, why do you care about Somali affairs and who is Somali and who is not. And honestly, I would have loved the OG in Ogadenia or as they call them in Jubaland the Galti to leave Jubaland affairs for the natives but in Somali culture, clan determines everything including your identity, and nationality. So there is nothing to be emotional about this.
Now that you mention galti.
GALTI DEPREDATIONS

I would much prefer to inhabit a hut of this descrip-
tion than a house of European design.

It was not long after my arrival that I realised I
should have to go farther afield than Kismayu to
obtain my camels, for all available ones had long been
snapped up by the authorities for the transport of
supplies to Sarrenleh, a military post on the upper
Juba River. For 800 men of the King's African
Rifles were stationed there under eleven white officers
to patrol the north-eastern corner of Jubaland. This
was rendered necessary owing to the turbulence of
the Galti tribe of the Marehan Somali, who had but
lately entered British territory, having migrated from
southern Somaliland. True stock raiders, as all
Somali are at heart, they had caused much trouble by
practising their favourite pastime on friendly tribes,
who appealed to the Government for help, and it was
in answer to this request that a patrol had been
despatched to restore order and put a stop to the
looting of cattle. The presence of a small army
naturally checked the depredations to some extent,
but such is the character of the Somali, that unless
the Galti are given a thorough lesson in discipline the
next time they are caught transgressing, they will
immediately begin looting again with renewed energy
as soon as the force is withdrawn.

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby The`Republic » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:45 am

Guhad-

The term "Galti" is copyrighted by Marehan since they are the only real successive pioneers in Jubbaland. In reality, they monopolized the term. Of the Ogaden in the land, due to the pan-Somali policy, the 60's government moved almost all the Mohamed Subeer in from Garissa to Afmadoow area and the rest brought by the Siad government. They never had a successive conquering wave.

Dannie-

The Marehan of the south are divided into three: the Guri, the Galti, and the Qax.

The earliest are the Guri (homestead), first wave conquerers. The Galti (immigrants) came to support them during the British and Italian wars. The Qax came during post-1991.

So Guhad should realize while my family might be from Wardheer, my sub-clan of reer Siyaad ( which I count 7 from) are Galti and Qax both.

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby The`Republic » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:49 am


Now that you mention galti.
GALTI DEPREDATIONS

I would much prefer to inhabit a hut of this descrip-
tion than a house of European design.

It was not long after my arrival that I realised I
should have to go farther afield than Kismayu to
obtain my camels, for all available ones had long been
snapped up by the authorities for the transport of
supplies to Sarrenleh, a military post on the upper
Juba River. For 800 men of the King's African
Rifles were stationed there under eleven white officers
to patrol the north-eastern corner of Jubaland. This
was rendered necessary owing to the turbulence of
the Galti tribe of the Marehan Somali, who had but
lately entered British territory, having migrated from
southern Somaliland. True stock raiders, as all
Somali are at heart, they had caused much trouble by
practising their favourite pastime on friendly tribes,
who appealed to the Government for help, and it was
in answer to this request that a patrol had been
despatched to restore order and put a stop to the
looting of cattle. The presence of a small army
naturally checked the depredations to some extent,
but such is the character of the Somali, that unless
the Galti are given a thorough lesson in discipline the
next time they are caught transgressing, they will
immediately begin looting again with renewed energy
as soon as the force is withdrawn.
:lol: :lol:

Thanks for showing importance and power of Marehan such the British administration in entire Jubbaland feared them and had military posts to look out for them.

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby The_Patriot » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:33 am

Guhad-

The term "Galti" is copyrighted by Marehan since they are the only real successive pioneers in Jubbaland. In reality, they monopolized the term. Of the Ogaden in the land, due to the pan-Somali policy, the 60's government moved almost all the Mohamed Subeer in from Garissa to Afmadoow area and the rest brought by the Siad government. They never had a successive conquering wave.
Dude even if you need to lie make one that looks credible.
Marexan were never pioneers of Jubaland. It was Absame that came in took most of the prime lands in the region, its only during Sayid Cabdlie Xassan that Marexan escaping his wrath came to settle in the region and were settled in the wastelands of Jubbaland areas like Luuq and Garbaharey.Thus Marexan turned into British Askaris in their bid to push southwards but came face to face with the Cawliyhan who thwarted their efforts.

As for Maxamed Subeir (Bah Geri n Makahil) they had secured they ruled all the way from Afmadow to Kismaayo and Wajir. While from Badhade all the way to the Tana River was under the Tolomoge.

Maxamed Subeir was never in Garissa.

As for MSB he never favoured any Ogaden infact its due to his treachery that brought to the demise of his reign. You cant say MSB brought MZ from Garissa and at the same time he was known arming Talxe liberation front to displace Ogaden from Bardheere all the way to Kismaayu.

MSB only favoured reer Diini he brought them in the 70's during abaarti dhabodheer and settled them in Gedo areas and some parts of the then Middle Jubba Bardheere.

Voltage next time go learn how to lie. :ufdup:

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby The`Republic » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:51 pm

Pat-

Where they teach you that at Masalani Primary School?

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Re: If the IGAD project fails, what will be fallout for Ogad

Postby The_Patriot » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:05 pm

Pat-

Where they teach you that at Masalani Primary School?
maya they taught me in garbaharey primary school. :myman:


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