Somali MPs in 1960s

[guhad122]

Do you guys know how many parliamentary members your clan/city sent to the house back in 1960s? I am a strong believer of history and I would like to know more about the clan makeups of the 1960s elections; from 1960 to 1969 elections.

For Absame/Ogaden, there were always about 8 to 10 in the house and here is their breakup:
4 mps from Afmadow

1 from Jamaame ---Two brothers alternated the seat in Jamaame; Cumar Macalin and Hilowle Macalin; Cumar being the first Somali ambassodor to the US and Hilowle being the first defence minister of Somalia

1 from Jilib; Xuseen Jiis of Bahgeri always came from Jilib
2 from Baardheere
1 or 2 from Jubbada Sare of Bay which at that time included Bakool and Bay
and get this; there was an Ogaden MP by the name of Cumar Dheere who was elected from Hargaisa. I just heard about few years ago and if our brothers in Somaliland can tell me more about this man, I would appreciate.

This is noy clan bashing thread; just educational

[AbdiWahab252]

Back then it was all about $$. IF you had $$, you could get elected even in places where your qawiil didn't reside.

[STARKAST]

Abdirizak Haji Hussein constituency was in Garowe.
Abdirashid Ali Shermarke was in Qardho ( He built a mosque in that town and there's a small plaque there on my travels.)

No AbdiWahab back then in Adens era corruption was much less than today where this is a literally a free for all.
If Somalia was still run like the past - We'll be doing this Somalinet thing in the cafes there.

[mahad9of9]

That is who we are when we are not fighting with the mooryaans, they hold us iyagana wax ma qabsadaan,,... Anyways, In these days, ilfuur lee nalagu yahay, Everytime we build, they steal it and claim it,..

[IRONm@N]

There were as many as 400 and it was getting out of hand, until Siyad Bare was fed-up with it and did the coup de-tat.

[illuminatizz]

Back then it was all about $$. IF you had $$, you could get elected even in places where your qawiil didn't reside.

100% true.

[STARKAST]

Yes its somewhat true however when qabilists talk you're automatically discredited.

However today - people sell votes in parliament for a few thousand dollars in the 21st century.

[guhad122]

Here is how the seats were distributed based on cities:
http://operationoverload.wordpress.com/ ... 1960-1969/

For those who argue that the elections were clan-based; yes that is true but it was a democratic system where the people voted and chose their representatives. If the kacaan never came, we would have been one of the strongest Democratic nations in Africa. I think it was Waryaa who eloquently phrased that it would take us 50 years to get back to where we were in 1960. Yes there were corruptions and mismanagement but in due time, things would have been sorted out. We only needed strong leader! Electoral distributions were based on city populations and regions. It was an excellent system. Do you guys know that Banaadir consisted of what is now Sh/hoose and She/Dhexe and that Xamar had only two seats in the parliament. I think both were named. The reason they did that is Xamar was the capital and it was for all Somalis not for particular clans.

I forgot to mention that Luuq Ganaane also sent an Ogaden/Cawlyahan MP to the house. Like Baardheere, Ceelwaaq and Faafax Dhuun, Cawlyans occupied Luuq Ganaane.

[SultanOrder]

Kulaha 50 years to get back to where we were in 1960. Somaliland did it their first multiparty local council election.

We were one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and had very little governance outside of Xamar proper. The Kacaan moved governance and development to all of Somalia, but alas we are far from the days of the glorious days of the Kacaan.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

The govt of 1960 was indeed very corrupt, but way better than the dictatorship that followed it, not to mention that it was a southern based govt. The first elections of 1960 had more vote from wanlaweyn than the whole of the togdheer region, hence the term we coined 'walaweyn govt'. The 10yrs koonfur was in a trusteeship they learned governance and corruption from the italians, waqooyis mistake was not doing the same and using a period of learning governance before uniting. Majeerteen-abgaal alliance was the power in that time.

[Tanker]

It was a time of Hell! fuck the 1960s!

thank God Siyad Barre saved us

In Las Qoray we did not have a single school in 1960s but Siyad Barre built schools across the city and all the students were put into universities in Mogadishu all free and payed by Siyad Barre AUN, before Siyad Barre it was impossible for poor students to get an education and not to mention how Siyad Barre provided Las Qoray with health care centers un-heard of in the 1960s

[AbdiWahab252]

The govt of 1960 was indeed very corrupt, but way better than the dictatorship that followed it, not to mention that it was a southern based govt. The first elections of 1960 had more vote from wanlaweyn than the whole of the togdheer region, hence the term we coined 'walaweyn govt'. The 10yrs koonfur was in a trusteeship they learned governance and corruption from the italians, waqooyis mistake was not doing the same and using a period of learning governance before uniting. Majeerteen-abgaal alliance was the power in that time.

The Issaq had a deeply divided leadership who did not hold the interests of their people. For example, the ISsaq PM, Cigaal (PM), couldn't make a decision about tackling the Coup which was in the works for weeks. Caydiid (AUN) wrote in his book that the coup was an open secret and he along with some other officers wanted to move and squash it if it occurred. Instead Cigaal (AUN) was busy trying to find a MJ to replace the assassinated president.

P.S. Hiiraan was the province with the highest total vote AGAINST the Union referendum. It voted in staggering numbers AGAINST the union due to the mischievous actions of the Aden Abdulle & PL factions which usurped power from the Hawiyists lead by Sheik Ali Jimcaale, one of the most famous and proHawiye leaders in the 60s. He predicted that a showdown would occur in the future as the Darood started to overreach for more than their fair share of power.

[mahad9of9]

He predicted that a showdown would occur in the future as the Darood started to overreach for more than their fair share of power.

Using their quotes and claims? wipe that lipstick off your mouth,,...














































































































































, i'm not qabiliste,,,...

[oxymoron]

It was close to 400 members and 300 were Puntlanders. Dam the good all days.

[guhad122]

Oxymoron,
Not really; the number was 125 and Majeerteen had about 15, Habar Gidir on the other hand had about 5 all together. Mareexaan had 3. Dhulbahante had about 4. Even 15 was way too many for Dhabayoco; Jiriibin and Caluula had mps in the parliament Unbelievable.