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How did the caliphate disappear?

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How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:02 pm

In no way do i mean offense to anyone by posting this thread, just for educational purposes, some muslims don't understand the sheer importance of the caliphate, and that without it, The Ummah is left powerless, vulnerable and all the wrongs start to happen.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby hydrogen » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:04 pm

Aren't you like pro-S/land, why do you care about a Ummah? Not being rude or looking for trouble, just curious.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:05 pm

Are you in love with this sheikh :mindblown:

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:07 pm

Are you in love with this sheikh :mindblown:
Before asking me that just watch the video, it contains valuable information, don't you want to know what happened to Islam just yesterday/99 years ago?

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:09 pm

may allah bless ahlu saud wa ahlul abdulwahab amiin.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:15 pm

may allah bless ahlu saud wa ahlul abdulwahab amiin.
You think Allah would bless a man who had more than 4 wives, betrayed Islam for 5,000 £ a month, and who contributed in the dissolving of the khilafah.

Do you honestly believe that? I'm sure theres a voice at the back of your head that knows the turth khalif, don't be stupid, a child knows that the prophet won't stand side by side with a man who betrayed him and dismantled his government system.


*Sigh, what was i thinking, i hardly doubt any of you watched the video.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:16 pm

Because Allaah ordained for it to dissappear in order to test the Muslims and the as the Prophet Salalaahu Calayhi Wa-sallam said (to paraphrase): the muslims will be large in number but the true believers will be few. So then when the hour is near the Mahdi will emerge and forcefully unite the muslims and overpower the disbelievers.

The division happened right after the death of the prophet SCW and intensified after the death of Cali

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:21 pm

I know that cumar, i'm speaking about the core reason, the events that happened, sharif hussein's revolt against the caliphate for £7,000,000 and Ibn Saud's revolt, which led to the dismantled of the khilafah, thanks to the kuffar, and 2 betrayers of the religion. If they didn't make that mistake today not one muslim would suffer, but you are right Allah ordained it as so, as long as the family of that impotent fool Ibn Saud rule over Jaziiratul carab, the khilafah won't rise, i even believe the mahdi would come at a time and fight them because they purposely prevent the khilafah from returning.

With the khilafah, a muslim of the rohinga will not die, a muslim of the somalis will not die, a muslim of the bosnians won't die, one united nation.

O how i long for it :lawd:

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby AhlulbaytSoldier » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:23 pm

Its the fulfillment of what prophet Muhammad pbuh prophecied.
The Prophethood will remain amongst you for as long as Allaah wills it to be. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be the khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology. And it will last for as long as Allaah wills it to last. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be biting kingship, and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then Allaah will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be tyrannical (forceful) kingship and it will remain for as long as Allaah wills it to remain. Then He will raise it when He wills to raise it. Then there will be a khilaafah upon the Prophetic methodology.
Then he (the Prophet) was silent.

Reported by Ahmad and Abu Dawud. Silsilah as-Saheehah of Imaam al-Albani (1/34 no. 5) and it is Saheeh.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby Cumar-Labasuul » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:26 pm

I don't understand you, you start up controversial threads all the time just to get a reaction. Do you seriously believe the turks were part of the caliphate. Why are you constantly insulting dead men like sacuud and sheikh cabdul wahhab when you don't even know where you will end up.
I'm advising you for the last time kid just focus on your A-levels and leave these matters alone.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby grandpakhalif » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:28 pm

may allah bless ahlu saud wa ahlul abdulwahab amiin.
You think Allah would bless a man who had more than 4 wives, betrayed Islam for 5,000 £ a month, and who contributed in the dissolving of the khilafah.

Do you honestly believe that? I'm sure theres a voice at the back of your head that knows the turth khalif, don't be stupid, a child knows that the prophet won't stand side by side with a man who betrayed him and dismantled his government system.


*Sigh, what was i thinking, i hardly doubt any of you watched the video.
You are a fool and barely know your history, you just rely on emotions and some olde washed up cook of a "sheikh". The Ottomon empire was already in decline ever since the 1850s, the british and other western nations seized various lands from them after they failed to defend it including majority of ash sham, North Africa, Yemen and the Gulf. The Ottomon empire prior to its official demise by Attaturk was essentially a figurehead state which barely controlled what it claimed to rule. The enroachment by the colonialists coupled with the corrupt Sultan family only cared about the money coming into istanbul coffers. Sufism and many other deviant ideologies infiltrated the once great Ottomon empire.

You give to much credit to Ahlu Saud and Hashemite family of Jordan, the Ottomon empire was essentially nonexistent except for in Medina and mecca. Mujahideenta Al-Ikhwan under the command of Mujahid wal Saud took over the two holy cities and signed a peace treaty with British in order to prevent further muslim bloodshed, indeed bloodshed in the two holy cities would have been a grave sin indeed. Out of his wisdom the Saud signed a treaty just as Rasullullah signed a treaty with the mushrikeen and indeed the British were christians so whose to say it is xaraam to sign peace treaty with them?

Today Saudi Arabia is ruled by a just ruler and Islam is flourishing especially now that our Imam Muhammad ibn AbdulWahab achieved his goal of eliminating shirk and make the Jazziratuul Arab a land of tawxiid.

And this is the wisdom of Allah wal hamdullilah.

When the Mahdi comes it is predicted that two khilafahs will fight over rule and this might be the Ahlu Saud family, once the Mahdi emerges Ahlu saud govt and all the muslimeen will submit to his rule and defeat the kuffar wal hamdulillah.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:32 pm

Cumar, you are jumping to conclusions, i'm basing every post on historical facts, Allah is my witness, if Abdilaziz ibnu saud did not betray Islam, then i don't know what the definion of being a muslim is.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby STARKAST » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:36 pm

Secessionists showing affinity to the ummah or a caliphate. A flawless oxymoron.

That Caribbean Sheikh is a great guy though.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:37 pm

Khalif, that is not a exuse for Ibn Saud who no matter what you have said, has betrayed islam monstrosly, his betrayel had huge consequences for millions of muslims, the acts of this man should not be taken care with lightly, wallahi he will answer for what he did on the day of judgement, it was not just, and it was not righteous, it was wicked, and a attribute of a munafiq.

Kullaha ahlul-saud, min al ard al-qarnush shaydan.


STARKAST, i'm far from a secessionist.

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Re: How did the caliphate disappear?

Postby ZubeirAwal » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:41 pm

The khilafah is gone, it can never be restored, so long as you have Britain, and the United States of America own the right of security of the saudi state, you can never restore the caliphate.

That is the shame that is with the saudi state, Allah is not their protecter, Ba3duhum awliya ba3dum are their protectors.

Inallaha la yahdi qawma dhalamin.


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