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You my slave dont have that same right. I earned mine...Your free to hold your own opinions.
no one is forcing anything down your throat, that is a figment of your imagination.Why dont you guys build shrine for afweyne in your regions instead of this pathetic game of pushing him down our throats...
By embedding its fighters in the civilian population in Hargeisa, the SNM played a
reckless deception which put the government in a difficult position of damn-ifyou-
do and damn-if-you don’t. The SNM could be accused that it did not care
much for the civilian population. The plausible scenario was the SNM which
always demanded more manpower wanted to benefit from the flight of the civilian
population from their homes in the north to camps in eastern Ethiopia where it
can secure endless supply of recruits.
http://ebookuniverse.net/the-night-snm- ... -d29036263Summation of the armed movements against Somalia
Many armed movements have fought in many countries including Ethiopia itself with the aim to bring political change or for self-determination. Many movements such as the EPLF and TPLF in their struggle were principled and patriotic.
The 1980s armed movements against the government in Somalia were invariably tribal with the aim to serve personal and clan ambitions rather than nation. Is it not the case that the net result of the struggle of the likes of the SSDF, SNM and USC accomplished was anything other than the destruction of Somalia: their own homeland? In an interview to the Somali Service of the BBC, Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, the former TFG President who resides in Yemen and who was the founder of the first armed opposition against Somalia “SSDF” admitted that he wouldn’t have done what he did had he known what he knows today. 17
how was al shabaab defeated? they were defeated by military means, under shaikh sherif more than 4000 civilians died in Mogadishu in the war aganist terrorist al shabaab but is that the fault of sheikh sherif? should we blame him for the death civilans ? charge him with war crimes? no! because it was shabaab who was using the civilians as human shield and the government was forced to liberate its cities from terrorism.Al-Shataan is almost gone
http://www.tau.ac.il/humanities/abraham ... omalia.pdfBut 4,000 died in the fighting between 2009 and 2011
the corrupt politicians will be gone
Somalia has once again emerged the top in the list of the world's most corrupt countries,
SSDF Spokesman Expresses Support for UN Actions[Abshir] That's absolutely untrue and the Somali people as a whole are against Aidid. They see Aidid as the second man who was responsible for the Somali tragedy
Mr. Ali Mahdi Muhammad, the President of the Somali Republic: Gen. Muhammad Farah Hasan Aidid, who was responsible for the series of civil wars in the country over a period of four years and eight months, starting from 17 November 1991 to 1 August 1996,
http://www.biyokulule.com/August_1990s(1).htm
SNM refuses to regonize Ali Mahdi USC as the new president
[Khalifah] Who chose 'Ali Mahdi Muhammad then?
[Hurrah] Actually we do not know!
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,, ... b5f,0.htmlIn May 1991 the SNM declared its secession from Somalia and degenerated into a Somaliland civil war in 1992 (Flint 1993).
On August 12, 1992, the SPM Ogadeni faction joined General Aidid to form the Somali National Alliance. The SPM fractured along tribal lines, and massacres and ethnic cleansing began between the two rival factions, as well as their external enemies.
but subsequently renounced the separatist platform in 1994. Tuur concurrently began instead to publicly seek and advocate reconciliation with the rest of Somalia
At times dictatorship is better than 'freedom', Somalia is the perfect example of this.
Somalia best days started from 26 january 1991 till now
I prefer that period above any other
Suicide of a NationMOGADISHU -- Something has snapped in Somalia. After three months of civil war that has killed and wounded at least 30,000 people, the country's soul is dying. People here are so used to staring into war's hideous face that too many have lost the horror. The brutal fighting is now their chief entertainment.
Some 400,000 terrified Somalis have fled for their lives. Many live in the desert in tiny beehive huts made of scrap metal and cardboard bound together with rope and rubber straps. Thousands more civilians have stayed in Mogadishu, braving machinegun fire and artillery barrages that batter the city each day.
In a residential district controlled by the guerrilla leader trying to oust Somalia's interim president, hundreds of people turn out to see the street battles close up. Even kids ignore the sharp crack of assault rifles, crowding sidewalks near the frontline to watch tanks blast the next neighborhood. As the country commits suicide, spectators cheer each explosion while families of the dead and wounded weep.
It is the Hobbesian vision come true, a society collapsed into anarchy, a savage, pitiless world where life has become nasty, brutish and short. People who once loved and laughed and hoped like all of us now think only of staying alive one more day, of saving enough strength to survive another. It's a miracle that so many still can.
The barbarity is beyond exaggeration. Somalia hasn't had a government or police for more than a year. Most people haven't had a job or a regular paycheque for even longer. Thousands of convicts who escaped from jail amid the chaos run amok with assault rifles and machineguns, shooting anyone who gets in their way. The few drivers still on the road have to fill the back seat, and often the open trunk, with armed guards for protection.
At night, the city is pitch black except for the intermittent flash of artillery. There hasn't been any electricity for months, nor is there any running water in most of the city. Looters hacked down all the hydro wires, dug up the water mains and sold them in neighboring countries along with the cars, computers, phones, light fixtures and truckloads of other booty they stole at gunpoint.
The prospects don't look to good for any kind of a prosperous, stable government, much less a civil society. The common sentiment is that the whole place should be paved over into a parking lot."
A U.S. government official in Washington put it this way: "Somalia has ceased to exist," he said. "And right now, nobody cares."
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