The Eritrean struggle for independence and dignity.

[Tanker]

Your retarded idiot this is not about opinions but about facts and I posted facts not my opinon you should do the same instead of useless talk

The government built water wells for villagers to reduce the shortage and the distance of water fetching. What used to take 2-3 hours of walking to get water now takes 30 minutes of walking. In addition the villagers were dependent on underground water dugouts to water their animals, the government to built water wells for the animals as well. The consistent water wells meant the villagers can settle in one area. In addition to the water supply, the government built irrigation systems and assisted inhabitants in better farming through diverse planting. Villagers were encouraged to plant different kinds of vegetables that have high nutritional value and that are diverse. In addition workshops were setup to education population on nutrition and the financial incentives of growing more diverse vegetables. Through this project vegetable consumption and income increased and in some cases, Self-employment and temporary hiring increased. In addition, permanent villagers were established. It is this kind of down to earth policies that have been improving the issue of household food insecurity.

Although Eritrea has not achieved complete food security yet, it is evident that the self-reliant manner, down to earth method of assessments and the government’s long-term commitment in achieving food security in Eritrea are playing a big role in improving the country’s poverty conditions. Just look at the human indicators published in the world health organization, and the human development index improving from .444 to .474 in two years in addition look at the decrease in malnutrition, infant mortality rate, and increase in life expectancy. NGOs and Aid agencies should look at Eritrea’s development policies if the true intention is to develop poverty, drought and war stricken countries.

[gurey25]

Yes its a police state, yes its poor but its run by a government that is development oriented and does not enrich itself at the cost of the people.
They have built thier own highways and rehabilitated their railways on their own, with next to zero support.
They have a lower HIV rate than Western Europe!!!!!!! .
When it comes to infant mortality rates, access to water and healthcare and food security it has your ethiopian empire beat.

there is a reason why we sympathize with the eritreans,
They escaped your prison called Ethiopia, while our brothers are still stuck.

They have dignity that many aspire to.

[CushiticReflections]

I dont think even that will help when xabashis invaded Somalia , the Majeerteens were the most happiest of them all, they were celebrating the deaths of the Hawiyas. There is nothing that really unites Somalis Somali identity its self means little to many, for some its just a language a sort of communication, we do hate each other, a darood from jubbaland will think General Kwanzu from the Kikuyu is closer to him than a hawiye from xamar


Meles zenawis mother is Eritrean but they are not cousins.Meles zenawi went to primary school in Asmara
Meles liked Eritrea, Meles zenawi hated Amharas , but liked eritreans, his problems was with the the dictator of Asmara Isaias afewerki.
Meles zenawi since he was a TPLF member always believed in an independent Eritrea, but wanted to avenge the killings Amharas derg did to his People.

And here I was enjoying your post on the impact of colonialism on Eritrean identity and then you exhibit qabilism.

Whether or not some MJs (just like any other Somalis) are qabilist shouldn't mean that all MJs should be painted with the same brush. Hawiyes are Somalis just like the rest of us, I don't see any difference between us of any significance and I was just as angered as any one else at the atrocities the Ethiopians committed after invading Somalia. However, this prevalence of distrust, suspicion, and hatred between the qabils will only serve as a obstacle to any true sense of Somali unity and will only help any outsider who wishes to destroy, dominate over, or exploit Somalis and Somalia. This can only be overcome by recognizing that we are all Somalis and Muslims, which is far more important than familial lineage. What tribe you or I were born into should not mean that we are enemies or that we should not trust one another.

Why do you make threads praising the oppressive Shaebia on a Somali forum? They did no favors for you all using the Somali name and passport during their rebellion years.

What is wrong with their wanting to leave a place that is unsafe? I don't think that their use of Somali names and passports should make Somalis wary of them. If anything, that only reveals their desperation as other nations may have been unwilling to allow Eritreans to seek refuge in their land.

[Lillaahiya]

This was posted here a while ago and it's pretty impressive You could argue that this may be Eritrean propaganda as well. Nonetheless, if the stats are not cooked, Eritreans wa dad nool

[St8OuttaDirree]

Yeah but they were determined and the Eritreans had allies in Ethiopia, Eritreans contributed to Ethiopias History especially the Christian Eritreans, so they knew how to free themselves from Ethiopia including their tigray brothers. Biher Tigringa People of Eritrea speak the same language as the Tigray people same culture same traditions isaias afewerkis Qabil. The thing is Eritreans deny associations with Tigray people and call them Agame a derogatory term. But i think they the eritreans are hiding a big secret and share the same ancestry with tigray

Oromos are useless 70% of oromos believe in a unified Ethiopia its just arsi oromo and some bale oromos who are against Ethiopia

Shewa oromo welelga oromo wollo oromo north shewa oromo, all consider themselves die hard Ethiopians

its just arsi and hararghe oromos and some bale oromos who believe in oromia

Oromos in addis ababa will tell you they are Amhara , they want to be Amhara

So oromos cannot be Somalis best friend in Ethiopia.

Shawaans = Ethiopian
Walloo = Muslims & Ethiopian(peaceful people)
Wallagaa = Todays OLF
Arsii = Lost fools who are allying with Amharas to get power in Ethiopia
Balee = A bunch of jumping sufis
Boran = Dunno much about them
Harargee = A bunch of Oromos

[STARKAST]

Good thread, Good responses from the usual suspects !
Good video.
Eritrea is the ultimate police state however at least every single one of them have their dignity and livelihood in check !
Too bad certain peoples had to destroy what we had.

http://blackagendareport.com/content/er ... orn-hunger

[Yohannes]

Yes its a police state, yes its poor but its run by a government that is development oriented and does not enrich itself at the cost of the people.
They have built thier own highways and rehabilitated their railways on their own, with next to zero support.
They have a lower HIV rate than Western Europe!!!!!!! .
When it comes to infant mortality rates, access to water and healthcare and food security it has your ethiopian empire beat.

there is a reason why we sympathize with the eritreans,
They escaped your prison called Ethiopia, while our brothers are still stuck.

They have dignity that many aspire to.

Haha, walaal tuugaha Eritrea madaxa ka hayo iyo kuwii Ethiopia madaxa ka hayo waa iskumid, yaa isku qaldin. Of course the dictatorship in Eritrea is doing some good, just like the woyane apartheid are doing some good in Ethiopia. At the end of the day, they are both oppressors who are in a mutually beneficial game of kabuki when the people are suffering. Afwereki and the sham group that hijacked everything the Shaebia stood for are absolutely enriching themselves at the cost of the people. Maxaabiista Asmara maxay ugu buuxaan? February 2013's aborted coup cirka miyee ka soo dhacday? Inshallah, mar dhow bay dhici doonaan thaalimeenta Asmara iyo Addis labadoodba. Waan raacsanahay boqoltii iyo boqol xornimadii Eritrea, dhiig iyo dadaal badan ayay ku soo mareen. So I don't see the need to turn it into pissing game of yaa kii ka daran, taas waa wajii xumo. Anii waxaa uun ka hor jeeda propogandada. btw PressTV isn't exactly the most partial news source if you catch my drift.

[Notorious13]

Actually Tigray in Ethiopia and Tigrinya in Eritrea are the same people but live on different sides of the border just like Somalis from Djibouti to kenya and they also have different accents the tigray.

[MarsinQorahay]

Yeah but they were determined and the Eritreans had allies in Ethiopia, Eritreans contributed to Ethiopias History especially the Christian Eritreans, so they knew how to free themselves from Ethiopia including their tigray brothers. Biher Tigringa People of Eritrea speak the same language as the Tigray people same culture same traditions isaias afewerkis Qabil. The thing is Eritreans deny associations with Tigray people and call them Agame a derogatory term. But i think they the eritreans are hiding a big secret and share the same ancestry with tigray

Oromos are useless 70% of oromos believe in a unified Ethiopia its just arsi oromo and some bale oromos who are against Ethiopia

Shewa oromo welelga oromo wollo oromo north shewa oromo, all consider themselves die hard Ethiopians

its just arsi and hararghe oromos and some bale oromos who believe in oromia

Oromos in addis ababa will tell you they are Amhara , they want to be Amhara

So oromos cannot be Somalis best friend in Ethiopia.

Shawaans = Ethiopian
Walloo = Muslims & Ethiopian(peaceful people)
Wallagaa = Todays OLF
Arsii = Lost fools who are allying with Amharas to get power in Ethiopia
Balee = A bunch of jumping sufis
Boran = Dunno much about them
Harargee = A bunch of Oromos

Excuse me what? harargee is not even close to oromos who are you lying to?

[Yohannes]

Actually Tigray in Ethiopia and Tigrinya in Eritrea are the same people but live on different sides of the border just like Somalis from Djibouti to kenya and they also have different accents the tigray.

Not really. If I understand right, the Somali speakers in Djibouti consider themselves ethnically Somali. This is not the case with Tigrinya speakers in Eritrea who don't want to have anything to do with Tigrinya speakers in Tigray, they and rest of Eritreans call them very dirty racist terms. Historically they are separate people with big differences. We share some ethnicities with Eritrea but both sides are antagonistic and doing ethnic cleansing and deportations of the other to Ethiopia or Eritrea.

[gurey25]

Yes its a police state, yes its poor but its run by a government that is development oriented and does not enrich itself at the cost of the people.
They have built thier own highways and rehabilitated their railways on their own, with next to zero support.
They have a lower HIV rate than Western Europe!!!!!!! .
When it comes to infant mortality rates, access to water and healthcare and food security it has your ethiopian empire beat.

there is a reason why we sympathize with the eritreans,
They escaped your prison called Ethiopia, while our brothers are still stuck.

They have dignity that many aspire to.

Haha, walaal tuugaha Eritrea madaxa ka hayo iyo kuwii Ethiopia madaxa ka hayo waa iskumid, yaa isku qaldin. Of course the dictatorship in Eritrea is doing some good, just like the woyane apartheid are doing some good in Ethiopia. At the end of the day, they are both oppressors who are in a mutually beneficial game of kabuki when the people are suffering. Afwereki and the sham group that hijacked everything the Shaebia stood for are absolutely enriching themselves at the cost of the people. Maxaabiista Asmara maxay ugu buuxaan? February 2013's aborted coup cirka miyee ka soo dhacday? Inshallah, mar dhow bay dhici doonaan thaalimeenta Asmara iyo Addis labadoodba. Waan raacsanahay boqoltii iyo boqol xornimadii Eritrea, dhiig iyo dadaal badan ayay ku soo mareen. So I don't see the need to turn it into pissing game of yaa kii ka daran, taas waa wajii xumo. Anii waxaa uun ka hor jeeda propogandada. btw PressTV isn't exactly the most partial news source if you catch my drift.

the north korea of africa does not concern me, but the ethiopian empire does,
isnt it obvious where my sympathies will lie ?
horta who are you oromo or somali and if you are somali whats with the simian mountains location and yohanes

[Yohannes]

Yes its a police state, yes its poor but its run by a government that is development oriented and does not enrich itself at the cost of the people.
They have built thier own highways and rehabilitated their railways on their own, with next to zero support.
They have a lower HIV rate than Western Europe!!!!!!! .
When it comes to infant mortality rates, access to water and healthcare and food security it has your ethiopian empire beat.

there is a reason why we sympathize with the eritreans,
They escaped your prison called Ethiopia, while our brothers are still stuck.

They have dignity that many aspire to.

Haha, walaal tuugaha Eritrea madaxa ka hayo iyo kuwii Ethiopia madaxa ka hayo waa iskumid, yaa isku qaldin. Of course the dictatorship in Eritrea is doing some good, just like the woyane apartheid are doing some good in Ethiopia. At the end of the day, they are both oppressors who are in a mutually beneficial game of kabuki when the people are suffering. Afwereki and the sham group that hijacked everything the Shaebia stood for are absolutely enriching themselves at the cost of the people. Maxaabiista Asmara maxay ugu buuxaan? February 2013's aborted coup cirka miyee ka soo dhacday? Inshallah, mar dhow bay dhici doonaan thaalimeenta Asmara iyo Addis labadoodba. Waan raacsanahay boqoltii iyo boqol xornimadii Eritrea, dhiig iyo dadaal badan ayay ku soo mareen. So I don't see the need to turn it into pissing game of yaa kii ka daran, taas waa wajii xumo. Anii waxaa uun ka hor jeeda propogandada. btw PressTV isn't exactly the most partial news source if you catch my drift.

the north korea of africa does not concern me, but the ethiopian empire does,
isnt it obvious where my sympathies will lie ?
horta who are you oromo or somali and if you are somali whats with the simian mountains location and yohanes

Sxb, Ethiopia has not been an empire since 1975 when the last Atse was suffocated by a bariya

It is funny to see Somalis with sympathy for the wedi medhin who is funding and arming the terrorists Al Shabaab who are playing with your country.

I am not Oromo or Somali walaalkiis, laakiin afkiina ayaan ku hadlaa.

[MarsinQorahay]

Yohannes, what has come out the conference in bahir dar?

[gurey25]

ethiopia is still an empire if not in nmae my friend,
this is the reality, when it becomes a democracy then you can call me walaal, and i will be waving the ethiopian flag .
and alshabab is somali, Somalia was a mess all these years because of foriegn interferance most of it from your side.

when a warlord gets too powerfull you fund his enemies, if that doesnt work you invade and kick his ass, you then rehabilitate him and turn him into an ethiopian tool.
you repeated this with dozens upon dozens of warlords, you controlled most of the fake transitional governments.
and something we will never forgive you for is you destroyed the islamic courts, when you found your usual tricks did not work on them and they started uniting the country.

you helped create the alshabaab problem.

[Tanker]

ethiopia is still an empire if not in nmae my friend,
this is the reality, when it becomes a democracy then you can call me walaal, and i will be waving the ethiopian flag .
and alshabab is somali, Somalia was a mess all these years because of foriegn interferance most of it from your side.

when a warlord gets too powerfull you fund his enemies, if that doesnt work you invade and kick his ass, you then rehabilitate him and turn him into an ethiopian tool.
you repeated this with dozens upon dozens of warlords, you controlled most of the fake transitional governments.
and something we will never forgive you for is you destroyed the islamic courts, when you found your usual tricks did not work on them and they started uniting the country.

you helped create the alshabaab problem.

Gurey25

CIA discovered in 2000 that Ethiopia was arming Somali Warlords who was figthing at the same time, so when one of the warlords was finished off they will arm his army so the country never gets peace, damn talk about hating us

I remember angry Ethiopians from the TV in 2007 saying we have to finish of the somalis after the humiliation of 1977 when civilians began to flee Addis Abba.