that is the definition of takfiir right there. Where is Erdogan fighting Muslims?Im not a takfiri. A man with a secular government that is fighting muslims is a kafir.takfiiri, watch your tongueEordgan is a kafir.
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that is the definition of takfiir right there. Where is Erdogan fighting Muslims?Im not a takfiri. A man with a secular government that is fighting muslims is a kafir.takfiiri, watch your tongueEordgan is a kafir.

every oppressor does bad. if he kills 10 men, but he fed a cat, we won't say "OH LOOK, HE FED A CAT".17,000 mosques were built in Turkey by the Erdogan government since he took power a decade ago. Is that your definition of fighting Muslims and being a kafir?

Many Turks hate him because they consider him a crypto-Islamist.
You hate him because you apparently consider him a Kafir.
The guy can't catch a break



This is the problem today. The good moderate ones are stuck between crazy wacko religious lunatics, and crazy wacko secular nationalist lunatics.Many Turks hate him because they consider him a crypto-Islamist.
You hate him because you apparently consider him a Kafir.
The guy can't catch a break

Waryahooy makes good points though.This is the problem today. The good moderate ones are stuck between crazy wacko religious lunatics, and crazy wacko secular nationalist lunatics.Many Turks hate him because they consider him a crypto-Islamist.
You hate him because you apparently consider him a Kafir.
The guy can't catch a break

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