Helen thomas.

[Insigne]

She'll be missed, this country needs more realists such as herself, RIP Helen

See this one Abuukar?

He won't be forgiven. He knows the truth yet he still persists with his haram. Just like the Banu Israeel, the most detested of humanity in the eyes of Allah.

Do you want to be like him or are you better?

Itaqallah, brother.

[CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC]

ok insigne and abuuker, take your nonsense argument elsewhere sxbyaal, i realize that as muslim i cant pray mercy for nonbeliever thas why i changed the topic, but i am not going to sit here and judge her and say she is going to jannaham. this thread is for Helen Thomas, you either comment about her legacy or GTFO.

[Insigne]

OK, masha'allah.

Don't do it again.

[ZubeirAwal]

Lol isigne, I used the hadith to display the mercy of Allah at the time of bani isreal, Interestingly enough, Ummatul-Muhammad (and that is all mankind and not just muslims) have more mercy from Allah than any nation before them, this is to say, that Allah has dealt with the faasiqiin with terrible punishments but with our people in our day he waits for us to repent, so if Allah's mercy was such at the time of bani isreal towards a woman who works with zina, what about now with the ummah of muhammad?

Your making takfir one by one on every forumer, you speak as if you are a spokesperson of Allah, he won't be forgiven, lol! I haven't seen any person speak with such profound arrogance, I leave the dead to Allah nor do I ponder on their destination as it does not benefit me.

You are too extreme.

[Insigne]

You sentimental doqon, if you see somebody commuting Bid'atul-Mukaffirah it is your obligation to state that they are outside the fold of Islam.

Your corrupt thinking is what caused the the 73 sects:

1. As is shown by the hadeeth of at-Tirmidhee (no. 2641): 'Abdullaah ibn 'Amr said: The Messenger of Allaah said,"What happened to the Children of lsraa'eel will happen with my Ummah, just as one shoe resembles the other, to the point that if one of them had intercourse with his mother openly, there would be someone who did that in my Ummah. The Children of Israa'eel split into seventy two sects and my Ummah will split into seventy three sects, all of which are in the Fire except one sect." They asked, "Which is that one, 0 Messenger of Allaah?" He replied, "That which I and my Companions are upon." Declared hasan by Shaikh al-Albaanee.

I suppose the Mu'tazila and Rafidhis are Muslim too? Just a bit different? How about the Hindus?

Nauzubillah.

I am not here to make friends or make people laugh at the expense of my faith unlike you. If I see haram or disbelief I will repudiate it, because to hold one's tongue is to support it.

[ZubeirAwal]

So now I'm not muslim, okay bye, make sure to tell the next man he's a kafir too.

[Insigne]

No.

Shaytan is putting that in your head because your iman is weak.

Do not lie about the words of a Believer. I have not made takfeer of you as you have retracted your bid'ah, albeit in very undignified fashion. You are Muslim and I make dua for you and will continue to do so.

[ZubeirAwal]

No.

You're saying that because your iman is weak.

Do not lie. I have not made takfeer of you as you have retracted your bid'ah. You are Muslim and I make dua for you.

What bida'? praising Allah's attributes, narrating a hadith and defending my opinion is a innovation?

what are you smoking son?

you do not know me beyond this forum

let me make my point clear for the last time:

Leave the judging of an-nass to Allah and worry about yourself and your judgment with Allah and look forward to it.

[Insigne]

The permissibility of making dua for non-Muslims.

That bid'ah.

Yes defending your opinion is innovation when it goes against Islam.

Please think you're replies out better because this was a waste of my time to read and respond to. You said absolutely nothing and are arguing for the sake of wounded pride.

Walahi if the roles were reversed I would thank you.

[ZubeirAwal]

Have I made dua or her?

[Insigne]

Have I made dua or her?

You endorsed and advocated for the right to do so and persist with it.

Don't play semantics. You don't have the caqli.

Look at how the threadstarter reacted. Why can't you do that?

[ZubeirAwal]

Have I made dua or her?

You endorsed and advocated for the right to do so and continue with this evil...

Don't play semantics. You don't have the caqli.

Look at how the threadstarter reacted. Why can't you do that?

I have not advocated nothing to assume that to make du'a for her was halal, all I said was Hakam is for Allah, stop making accusations your jumping to far fetched conclusions, i'm out before you tell I said something else which I didn't, now you believe you have access to my mind and heart to know what I was saying, ramadan karim and I hope to not encounter such a member who's filled with fitna arguments ever again, wasting my time.

[CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC]

insigne....i don't see why you are after abuuker, he just asked you to stop assuming that this lady is in hell right now, you dnt know whats happening with her, he said leave it to allah and i think he is right, you can argue that we shouldn't be saying rip, but you also cant say she is in hell right? how the hell do you know that? where you beside her when she was dying ? how do you know she didn't convert minutes before her death or hours before her beath? quite judging people sxb and focus yourself, stop calling your fellow brothers names.

[Insigne]

Were you beside Abu Lahab when he died? Or Abu Jahal? Or Mirza Ghulam Ahmed?

Are you going to be beside Bashar al-Assad? Do you even think it even matters?

Should we assume they're Muslim?

Fuck this.

Salam alaykum.

[gurey25]

I suppose the Mu'tazila and Rafidhis are Muslim too? Just a bit different? How about the Hindus?

it seems here that your are hiding behind sarcasam while takfiiring shiica and the long dead muctazila philosophy?
so you are a takfiiri.

i wonder what you would think of those who do not agree with you like ashcariya