Tunisian MPs reject Islam as source of law

[Nomand]

when muslims followed shariah law and shariah law was implemented in their lands, muslims were conquers, inventors and world leaders.

look at muslims today without shariah

[SecretAgent]

Wat sharia laws ?? Who neeeds n wants them yea cuttin hands n stoning ppl wen u have no 4 witness dat saw da penis enter da siiil,cuttin poor ppl hands cus he needs food

[Methylamine]

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[grandpakhalif]

the west will not allow any sharia law country to exist, they want to prevent sharia so the word will be blind to the justice of sharia, women in the west couldn't even own property 200 years ago, but Islam allocated inheritance and protection rights 1400 years ago. It is us who have the more humane system, it's just that destructive groups like Al shabab have committed xukun after xukun without producing four witnesses, a feat which is a very difficult requirement for stoning a married adulterer/adultress.

[gurey25]

Israel uses Sharia Law btw

Their penal code comes from the old ottoman one, which was based on shareeca.
That does not mean they have shareeca.

[anzeloti]

Well done

[Arabman]

when muslims followed shariah law and shariah law was implemented in their lands, muslims were conquers, inventors and world leaders.

look at muslims today without shariah

Good point. The West is still traumatized by centuries of Islamic dominance, and that's why they would do everything for shariah not to come back.

[Colonel]

Abdijohnson,

I did not criticise the secular system rather I merely pointed out the hypocrisy in sore losers like you and your fellow brain dead Arab 'liberals' who can not respect an election's result. Surely you can not argue with me on fact that that the coup in Egypt and manoeuvring in Tunisia is strenghtening AQ's ideology?

Jalaluddin - I see what you mean.

[Grant]

http://dcclothesline.com/2013/06/10/sha ... theocracy/

This came out in June last year:

Sharia Law versus the U.S. Constitution

"In the United States of America we apply the Constitutional freedom of religion, and classify Islam as a religion rather than a political ideology aimed at world domination. Even outlawing Sharia, as we have recommended, presents the same difficulty, because the Islamic law is itself all bound up in the “religion.”

We are faced with a situation in which foreigners have the unmitigated prefect to plot our death and destruction because of our non-adherence to their foreign laws. Our enemies actually dare to come here and murder innocent people because of their law, edict or fatwa as foreigners not subject to our law. Islamic “immigrants” and local converts feel perfectly free to work within our own borders to achieve our ultimate subjugation or destruction.

Maybe it is time to enforce The Smith Act of 1940, 18 USC § 2385, Advocating overthrow of Government, once again. The act has not been enforced in nearly fifty five years since the days of the Communist Party leader trials from 1949 to 1958

The Law Reads as follows:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof –

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

I submit that the Islamic theocracy cannot properly operate anywhere in America without violating this American law. Full enforcement of this act, if that were possible, might result in the elimination of the Islamic theocracy in America. The prohibitions in the act represent the contents of editorials and sermons heard in most if not all Muslim communities and Mosques in America."

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It would take quite a bit to alter the American perception of Islam as a religion, but it could happen as folks become aware of the political ramifications of Shariah. The laws on the books go back to the Communist Party in the US during the Cold War, but could be applicable today to the political aspects of Islam. Where there is no separation of Church and State, both may be in trouble if they reside within a larger political system. The Mormons (who combined Church and State) were denied polygamy and prevented from governing themselves for 30 years over very similar issues. Today, the Church governs the Church, but not the State.

In England, things like this are happening. Read it and weep:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... cks-london

Events like this are not regarded in the West as "Freedom of Religion", and are emphatically not protected. Tunisia may also prefer an elected government and professional police to streets patrolled by religious vigilantes. Who here supports even the concept of the Saudi Mutaween?

[InoCabdi]

Colonel, why don't you live in a religious country if you hate secularism? Why live in the West that you clearly despise? I've never understood this. You never see us secularists come to your countries. Why come to ours? Of course because secularism and liberalism increases quality of life and gives freedoms that are not given in your religious lands. It gives you dignity. Its very unfair for you to bash secularism when you've reaped its benefits. You could have very well been a fatal victim of religion in your religious countries that you adore. Maybe shot to death for having a different interpretation or killed by members of another faith for revenge killing

I suggest you go live in a religious country and voice your anti secular views there. Don't take advantage of our democracy and basically take a shit on the very values that allowed you to live on this Earth a lot longer than you would have in religious countries. Secularism gave you a second chance in life

I am,

Abdi "Setting the hypocrites straight" Johnson

being able to pray in your cubicle is not something to be proud about.

[Arabman]

Surely you can not argue with me on fact that that the coup in Egypt and manoeuvring in Tunisia is strenghtening AQ's ideology?

As a result of the West's meddling in Muslim countries, al-Qaeda has gained membership of at least of 50% of Egyptians and Tunisians, not to mention other Muslim nationals (Yemenis, Somalis, Libyans, Malians, etc).

[zidane88]

NO, to a-lQaeda and al-Shabab Shareeca.

[FAH1223]

Israel uses Sharia Law btw

Their penal code comes from the old ottoman one, which was based on shareeca.
That does not mean they have shareeca.

Closer than these North Africans

[Yohannes]

The only country that has come out of the Arab Spring that hasn't devolved into a failed state or civil war (Syria, Libya, Yemen), had its revolution prematurely aborted (Algeria, Bahrain, Kuwait) or completely hijacked (Egypt, Syria). Tunisians should be proud of what they've achieved, yet the struggle continues for a better Tunisia.

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Tunisian islamists drink wine and fornicate infront of you.
Iskaba dhaaf kuwa kale