somali federalism is a big lie!

[sahal80]

At the moment the govt has its priorities, this is for the long term

Though calling the regional oil contracts being "null and void" there is a difference between oil exploration contracts and oil producing contracts. Companies may dare to sign oil exploration contracts with the regional authorities to determine the presence or absence of OIL&GAS in somalia but the process of oil dealings starts after its presence was announced!

Like most of the countries except the capitalist westren countries where individuals own the oil companies, the somali govt has established a national petroleum company wich supposedly owns the petrolium resources, only this company will issue the licences...

As for the other resources, The new somali finance minister will implement a new policy that will make the ports just like the mogadishu port where foreing comapanies with a private security manage them and their reveneus go only to the central govt!

Politically, the govt will influence the local elections!

The somali president says the country hasn't decided yet wich kinda of fadaralism they will adopt? A two federal regions or 4? Or?!

No constitution without referendum besides the revision that the parliament committes will start it!

Notice.

These are not my opinions, these are figures and numbers and I'm exposing the govts policies.

Others news:

The new somali FM has arrived addis ababa to partake the african FMs summit in addis ababa ahead of the leaders summit. The somali president will be there on 29 of this month. This summit is economical though the leaders may exchange the political situations on the sidelines of the summit.


The new interior minister has received the Emirates ambassador to somalia mr al osmani who promised that his govt will carry out 10 development projects in 10 somali districts.

Emirates has also a project of reconstructing the presidential palace(villa somalia) includes two helicopters

Emirates officials was seen partaking in the somali cabinets conference for 2014 program among norway AU and EU officials

The ambassadors words
“Today, I am very happy to announce that the UAE government will implement huge development projects in Somalia—the projects will be carried out in 10 districts in the country as soon as possible” the ambassador explained during Monday’s press conference in Mogadishu.

The UAE diplomat said that the first phase of the development projects will be carried out in the districts of Merka, Afgoye, Jowhar and Baidoa."

[Murax]

Puntland and jubbaland are not lies. Just because You want them to be lies does not make then lies. They are reality.

[original dervish]

How can anybody suggest the revenues from Somalia's ports should go to the central govt?
The former FM was accused by one of her own diplomatic staff of pocketing four million dollars meant for embassies/missions.

Clearly there are those whom think the central govt should be run like some sort of black market racket.

[sahal80]

How can anybody suggest the revenues from Somalia's ports should go to the central govt?
The former FM was accused by one of her own diplomatic staff of pocketing four million dollars meant for embassies/missions.

Clearly there are those whom think the central govt should be run like some sort of black market racket.

Its not a suggestion, its a new policy that the new finance minister will carry out.

[original dervish]

So let's get this straight....even though the central Govt is riddled with corruption....they want the rest of the countries revenue to loot.
Now I see why certain individuals are against federalism.

[sahal80]

Puntland and jubbaland are not lies. Just because You want them to be lies does not make then lies. They are reality.

its not about me, I have given you figures and numbers that show the govt policies doesn't recognize federalism at all! Facts!!

yes puntland is a federal state at the moment because it controls its land but in the long term they will have problem with the central govt when it comes to the resources. the south are shabaabland and I don't see any differences between lower juba, gedo and hiiraan. Hiiraan even will elect its leader without carrying such interim title.

The point is there is no federalism at all in the south and things are heading centralism secondly.

[sahal80]

So let's get this straight....even though the central Govt is riddled with corruption....they want the rest of the countries revenue to loot.
Now I see why certain individuals are against federalism.

I'm talking about using power not about what is right and what is wrong. this is the policy at the moment in the south but can they extend to other regions? Maybe through agreement.

[original dervish]

Do you honestly believe s/l or p/l will hand over control of ports/revenue to Xamar?
Whatever happens in the south is a matter for southerners, however, the federal regions (inc s/l) will never give up their freedom to a xamar based mafia.

[GIJaamac]

Puntland and jubbaland are not lies. Just because You want them to be lies does not make then lies. They are reality.

its not about me, I have given you figures and numbers that show the govt policies doesn't recognize federalism at all! Facts!!

yes puntland is a federal state at the moment because it controls its land but in the long term they will have problem with the central govt when it comes to the resources. the south are shabaabland and I don't see any differences between lower juba, gedo and hiiraan. Hiiraan even will elect its leader without carrying such interim title.

The point is there is no federalism at all in the south and things are heading centralism secondly.

[sahal80]

Do you honestly believe s/l or p/l will hand over control of ports/revenue to Xamar?
Whatever happens in the south is a matter for southerners, however, the federal regions (inc s/l) will never give up their freedom to a xamar based mafia.

I'm talking about the supposed federal regions. Even those who are not in the south will need to negotiate with the central govt in the resource matters, they need to use its stamp for their business, it will be a kinda of deal!.

[quark]

Do you honestly believe s/l or p/l will hand over control of ports/revenue to Xamar?
Whatever happens in the south is a matter for southerners, however, the federal regions (inc s/l) will never give up their freedom to a xamar based mafia.

I'm talking about the supposed federal regions. Even those who are not in the south will need to negotiate with the central govt in the resource matters, they need to use its stamp for their business, it will be a kinda of deal!.

this nigga

[Murax]

Sahal,

The problem is You are quoting Xassan Sh, but He his word doesn't have much power as of the moment. The Federal model is what the Int'l community are pushing in Somalia, and Xassan Sh's role will be to recognize whatever admin the Int'l community tells Him to recognize i.e Jubba.

[sahal80]

Do you honestly believe s/l or p/l will hand over control of ports/revenue to Xamar?
Whatever happens in the south is a matter for southerners, however, the federal regions (inc s/l) will never give up their freedom to a xamar based mafia.

I'm talking about the supposed federal regions. Even those who are not in the south will need to negotiate with the central govt in the resource matters, they need to use its stamp for their business, it will be a kinda of deal!.

this nigga

At the figures and numbers, fixed!

Punland has already signed an agreement with the central govt wich gives her a share in its port and airport revenues, integrating its army in the SNA but this agreement hasn't being implemented by the govts side because the issue between puntland and the central govt is more political than a federal one, its about the puntlands political roles in the govt and the south generally, now things seem to be about between the two sides and may restore the relations.

When I'm saying those in the north need the govts stamp its that way, that agreement states doladu ufodudaso(govt to facilitate)
In order to get these things they need to give a share to the central govt in thesebusiness matters.
“waxaa la isla gartay in dawladda federaalka soomaaliya ay saami ka hesho dakhliga dekeddaha iyo garoomada diyaaradaha ee puntland si waafaqsan dastuurka"

[quark]

lol and why would we do that? its never gonna happen sxb. We don't need shit from xamar and they wont get nothing from PL. Simple as that.

[original dervish]

You claim to be an impartial analyst....but can hardly contain your glee..with such statements.
"They need the Govt stamp to carry on their business", and "We need our share"

You can't treat Govt as you would a looted house.
Is this what you call governance?

If the southerners continue this nonsense we will have prolonged political deadlock.
Eventually the IC will have to bow to s/l demands for recognition...almost certainly p/l & j/l will follow suit.