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Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:46 pm

In that case, most indians and south east asians/oceanians would fall under this category. I don't really care what "most people" think. I care about facts.

I'd just leave it blank but sometimes it's mandatory to specify.

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Estarix » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:52 pm

I agree with Liquid,

We are not Black and neither are we Arabs. We are Africans>>Somalis just like how Berbers are Africans. We are indigenous Africans. Africa is not only home to Black people it is home to brown people like East Africans and Yellow people like Berbers!!!
Even though i think whites will be ignorant of the differences within Africans. But for this list a case could be made for the Asians as they splintered into minority groups that have a big presence here since the 60s; so the length of the list and the processing time is justified.
Secondly Somalis for the most part (apart from very insignificant variation) don't have a separate skin tone then other blacks, we both have same shades and tone of skin colour. So this black category is totally fair imo.
Why you lying for, we don't have the same skin tone as the ordinary blacks unless they have white in them like their grandparents etc. Plus there are dark-skinned Indians too and will they be considered as Black? Nope.
There is no such thing as africans when it comes to race. Somalis are unique from the rest of sub saharan african because they are mixed race (mixed with ancient meditereans) - the only difference from mixed race people from Latin Americans is that somali case it is ancient.
As for skin tone the difference is negligable. Dude isnt colour melanin related? and the more eumelanin you have the darker your skin is? so somalis have black skin colour; there is slight tone variation but today thats all considered to be black.

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:55 pm


There is no such thing as africans when it comes to race. Somalis are unique from the rest of sub saharan african because they are mixed race (mixed with ancient meditereans) - the only difference from mixed race people from Latin Americans is that somali case it is ancient.
As for skin tone the difference is negligable. Dude isnt colour melanin related? and the more eumelanin you have the darker your skin is? so somalis have black skin colour; there is slight tone variation but today thats all considered to be black.
No we are not mixed race you idiot. There might be some little mix in small population of Somalis but we are pure indigenous people. We didn't get our features from any mixture.

And no Somalis do not have Black skin. There are dark-skinned Somalis, brown-Skinned Somalis and light-Skinned Somalis. You cannot label a whole ethnic group because there are some dark-skinned Somalis.

We are Somalis fullstop. Not black and nor Arabs

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby JamalGianCarlo » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:02 pm

I will not be having people disgracing me to say i will be black or negroid or slave. My skin is arab and my features caucasian. No need for words look at me. :eat:

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Estarix » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:05 pm

How can you say they are indigenous when somalis have are almost equality split between negroid and caucasoid component? how can a people split in this manner (two races) be a pure race. This is retarded logic.
Im not denying you what you are as you are somali by ethncity. But race wise somalis are not a separate or pure race. Black as in skin colour refers to racial designation that we have today. Its not scientific designation and im not using in that way.

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:10 pm

How can you say they are indigenous when somalis have are almost equality split between negroid and caucasoid component? how can a people split in this manner (two races) be a pure race. This is retarded logic.
Im not denying you what you are as you are somali by ethncity. But race wise somalis are not a separate or pure race. Black as in skin colour refers to racial designation that we have today. Its not scientific designation and im not using in that way.
Perhaps go learn basic genetics. Somalis are not mixed raced!!

And no we are not Black!

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Chinaman » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:43 pm

How can you say they are indigenous when somalis have are almost equality split between negroid and caucasoid component? how can a people split in this manner (two races) be a pure race. This is retarded logic.
Im not denying you what you are as you are somali by ethncity. But race wise somalis are not a separate or pure race. Black as in skin colour refers to racial designation that we have today. Its not scientific designation and im not using in that way.
Perhaps go learn basic genetics. Somalis are not mixed raced!!

And no we are not Black!
A lot of "Races" are mixed. Indians/Pakistanis/Bengalis for example are a mixture of ancient south Asians(who probably looked like Australian aborigines) and Indo-Eurasian migrants from more northern areas. North Africans are mixed Ancient European + Ancient Middle easterns plus Ancient sub-Saharan Africans (20%).

Middle eastern are mixed with East African (8%-18%), Central Asians are mixed East Asian/Caucasian. Horn Africans are mixed Ancient SSA (50%-65%) + Ancient Middle easterns (35%-50%) from the neolithic era.

Most humans on planet earth apart from East Asians proper and some sub-Saharan groups have some sort of mixture.

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:52 pm


A lot of "Races" are mixed. Indians/Pakistanis/Bengalis for example are a mixture of ancient south Asians(who probably looked like Australian aborigines) and Indo-Eurasian migrants from more northern areas. North Africans are mixed Ancient European + Ancient Middle easterns plus Ancient sub-Saharan Africans (20%).

Middle eastern are mixed with East African (8%-18%), Central Asians are mixed East Asian/Caucasian. Horn Africans are mixed Ancient SSA (50%-65%) + Ancient Middle easterns (35%-50%) from the neolithic era.

Most humans on planet earth apart from East Asians proper and some sub-Saharan groups have some sort of mixture.
enough with the 'ancient mixture' label. Somalis are indigenous Africans and didn't not get their features from others. I'm not denying that Somalis have some mixture, but to say they got their thin nose and soft hair from Arabs is totally wrong. :up:

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Grant » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:42 pm



Check out these Cushites..... 8-)

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Tanker » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:10 pm

as this picture of a white and Somali models shows the Somalis are just dark skinned Europeans

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby XimanJaale » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:14 pm

as this picture of a white and Somali models shows the Somalis are just dark skinned Europeans

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No we are not dark-skinned 'europeans'. Having thin nose and soft hair doesn't only belong to Europeans. We are Somali/Africans.

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Tanker » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:30 pm

how can anybody compare this Somali lady with bantus ? :lol:



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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby original dervish » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:31 pm

Go on Tanker get your family album out. :lol:

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby Chinaman » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:43 pm

This Tanker creature :scusthov:

Classic example of someone who suffers from an inferiority complex :meles:

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Re: Black is not a real ethnic group FFS

Postby LobsterUnit » Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:45 pm

One is often left perplexed and dismayed at vagueness of the ethnicity tick box. It does absolutely no justice to the true fluidity surrounding ones view of ethnicity. I often look for a tick boy saying, "caramel toned, not light skin or dark skin,curly ,soft haired,elongated nose Somalian". Such a box does not exist.shakes head.disappointed.


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