Clan dynamics who hates who?

[theyuusuf143]

any one who says isaaq hates mareexaan ogaden or both. is absulutely wrong, in the past may be, but today the only outside (nonsomalililanders) clan we havw problem is the f... ing MJs. these niggus are claiming some parts of our country and we have big reason not to just hate but to invade them very very soon.

[Warabaha]

any one who says isaaq hates mareexaan ogaden or both. is absulutely wrong, in the past may be, but today the only outside (nonsomalililanders) clan we havw problem is the f... ing MJs. these niggus are claiming some parts of our country and we have big reason not to just hate but to invade them very very soon.

they just wanna feel relevant. Isaaq could not care any less about darod or any of their sub.

[jamal9]

everyone hates HG that's for sure

[Siciid85]

Only in politics but on a personal level most Somalis are cool with each other

[gegiroor]

It's just Somalis in thwe west and their poisonous tribal mindset. Was in Moqdisho last week and I hardly see anybody who has beef with anybody. a lot of Hawiye know me I was Majerten and I got nothing but welcome. Go home and see how your mind changes

[GAMES]

everyone hates HG that's for sure

You bumped a thread thats more than 1yr old to tell us u hate HG?

[Somaliman%]

MJ'S don't hate its all politics since we are the smartest group however they all envy this. It's called haters!!!

[whitehartlane]

i think we somalis have one motherfffing huge problem..

we look at other somalis from a political perspective, rather than from a neutral position..

politics aside, we have absolutely no reason for an automated dislike for any tribe..
why cant we leave the politics for the fat flipping lying stinking politicians...tht suck on us with big fat straws..

they feed on our inability to think critically balanced and above all independent of tribal allegiances...

politics aside, i dnt dislike any qabiil. i could marry from any, eat amongst many and pray fast and socialise with all..i am convinced we are all the same..

we may have grudge or two against direct immediate neighbours but there is no reason for me to dislike isaaq abgaal og mareexaan..etc etc

[original dervish]

Its more about distrust and competition for meager resources that drive conflicts among the various neighbouring clans.

[sahal80]

Its all about politics and clan rivalry

most hated: powerful and influential

Most haters: bitter clans, marginalized and those who feel like they were second citizens

[whitehartlane]

tht was in the 20th century, today its not reer miyi disliking each other, infact they get along its the city folks tht get their tits in a twist..

explain tht, why should i dislike habar gidir for tht new fella's and xassan sheikhs actions.. or hating isaaq cuz their leaders mislead them into claiming tht which is not theirs to claim..

..its just radical stupidity if u ask me...

i dont hate no qabiil however there are some tht i admire as people more than others..

i admire isaaq the most and habar gidir the least...
both because of the simply fact they are completely the opposite end of each other..

[sahal80]

tht was in the 20th century, today its not reer miyi disliking each other, infact they get along its the city folks tht get their tits in a twist..

explain tht, why should i dislike habar gidir for tht new fella's and xassan sheikhs actions.. or hating isaaq cuz their leaders mislead them into claiming tht which is not theirs to claim..

..its just radical stupidity if u ask me...

i dont hate no qabiil however there are some tht i admire as people more than others..

i admire isaaq the most and habar gidir the least...
both because of the simply fact they are completely the opposite end of each other..

this is wrong assumption. You see only HG bc they r in the center of politics while isaaq r in their status predicament

Earlier politics were influenced by the banadiri minority, moved to hiiraan for a while and then settled in mudug where our current political conflict is originated from

Reer waqooyi were always appointee and had never a leading role in the politics, thus why their unilateral secession

the civil war was between MJ, MX and HG...after HG toppled barre, they couldnt rule bc of the local mj allied abgaal!

This is why HG and MX became alllies

Theres big cuqdad in xamar as HG fears of any mj influenced govt in mogadishu like what happened between 2007-8...HG also fears of losing control/wealth/positions hence why the interior post is exclusive to them..this is one of the obstacles why the govt is not strong but outside of xamar, in HG land theres a relative stability

Now, to stop any clan having absolute control of power, the khawajat r backing moving the authorities to the regions and the new clash between HG and MJ is no more than a clash between two authorities....you see PLs problem now is with galmudug not mogadishu!

JL with SW not mogadishu!

This is what you wanted: federalism!

Mogadishu will have an elected mayorship system just like london(abgaal goof)

This equation applies to all somali regions!

Ethiopia as the patron govt!

let us wait until more of them appear!

[jamal9]

^^

the civil war was between MJ, MX and HG...after Abgaal toppled barre, they couldnt rule bc of the local mj allied abgaal!

there you, I made the correction for you.

Abgaal are the ones who kicked MSB out of xamar, not HG. Why would MX ally with HG if HG are the ones who kicked out their man? does not make sense at all. HG are the most hated clan because they are savages. Remember black hawk down when them HG did niiko on dead american soldiers back in '93. Some pple say they ate bits of those soldiers too. USA wont forget that and that's the main reason why an Abgaal will made president every time, just to humiliate and demean them HG miscreants.

[AwRastaale]

Sahal is clueless kid. Don't mind him. I personally have not seen anyone as ignorant as Sahal on this forum.

Barre was toppled by many rebels with the SNM being the longest, largest and most damaging to him. In the South especially Mogadishu, the Abgaal did the most damage.

The financiers of USC were Abgaal and that's why they could not comprehend nor accept Aidiid who showed up the last minute.

USC was 3 parts and 2 out off those parts were Abgaal under Dr Jimcaale Osoble (USC-Rome and main financial body) and Ali Mahdi (military aka USC-Mogadishu).

Abgaal was allied to Murursade and Majertein (later).

Also in Mogadishu Aidid used brainwashed Duduble teens and there were hardly any HG in Mogadishu.

Abgaal does not like HG becoz HG is greedy and have no sense of familyhood. Too often Abgaals are forced to provide for useless HG relatives.

[MujahidAishah]

I hate all you laangaabs

Reer sh isxaaq waa gob inta kale gun excluding samaroon