All Reer Koonfur Shir!! Soo Gala Guud!!!

[thegoodshepherd]

Federal States for Central Somalia?
What is the obstacle to this central state?

Do you think that the people in the Central states of south Mudug Galgadud Hiraan Middle shabelle Benadiir can agree on a federal state before 2016?
Will Hiraan ever join a central state?

How can Galmudug Ximan iyo Xeeb Ahulusuna fulfill the 2 states or more requirement for federal state without Hiraan?
Will there be any federal states in Koonfur? Discuss

[StormShadow]

They had a meeting and signed an agreement to start the process of forming a state for the central regions.

Here is Galmudug and Ximen iyo Xeeb agreement.

Maamullada Galmudug iyo Ximan iyo Xeeb oo Maanta Heshiis Gaaray

Khamiis, Janaayo 30, 2014 (HOL) — Magaalada Gaalkacyo ee xarunta gobolka Mudug waxaa heshiis ku gaaray maamul-goboleedyada Galmudug iyo Ximan iyo Xeeb, kaddib shir maalmo uga socday koonfurta Gaalkacyo.

Shirka labada dhinac waxaa goob-joog ka ahaa muddadii uu socday madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Galmudug, Cabdisamad Nuur Guuleed, madaxweynaha Ximan iyo Xeeb, Cabdullaahi Cali Maxamed Baarleex, siyaasiyiin, aqoonyahanno iyo odayaal-dhaqameed kasoo jeeda labada maamul.

Ujeeddada shirka ayaa lugu sheegay sidii labada maamul u midoobi lahaayeen, ayna isugu ururaan hal maamul-goboleed.

Shirkaan ayaa xilligii uu soo dhammaaday waxaa laga soo saaray war-murtiyeed ka kooban 11-qodobb, waxaana saxaafadda u akhriyay wasiirka khayaraadka Badda Galmudug, C/qaadir Cali Jaamac (Qalab-xoor).

Qodobbada ay labada maamul ku heshiiyen waxaa ugu muhiimsanaa:

1. In sida ugu dhaqsiyaha badan loo billaabo maamul u sameynta gobollada dhexe, gogosha maamulka lagu dhisayana la dhigo deegaannada uu maamulka Ximin iyo Xeeb ka taliyo.
2. In si dhab ah loo billaabo dib-u-heshiisiin la dhex-dhigayo shacabka labada maamul, lana adeegsado qaybaha kala duwan ee bulshada iyo warbaahinta.

3. In la abuuro jawi nabadeed, isla markaana xiriir nabadgeliyo ay la sameystaan maamullada iyo dowladaha dariska ah, si dambiilaha uusan u helin meel uu ku gambado.
4. Inay xaqooda weydiistaan dowladda dhexe oo ay ku jirto taakuleynta hay’adaha amniga, arrimaha bulshada iyo horumarinta.

5. In la abuuro is-dhexgal labada bulshada sida ganacsiga, cayaaraha, dhaqanka iyo ururada haweenka.

Inataas kaddib waxaa si wadajir ah warbaahinta ula hadlay madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Galmudug, Cabdisamad Nuur iyo madaxweynaha Ximan iyo Xeeb, Cabdullaahi Baarleex.

Madaxweyne ku-xigeenka Galmudug Cabdisamad Nuur ayaa sheegay in wax lagu farxa ay tahay in madaxda Ximan iyo Xeeb ay Gaalkacyo yimaadaan isla markaa ay kawada shiraan aayaha labada maamul oo ka tashanaya sidii ay u midoobi lahaayeen.

Cabdisamad Nuur, wuxuu sidoo kale soo hadal qaaday in shirku uusan inta ku ekaan; isla markaana ay jiri doonan shirar badan oo ay isku arkaan madaxda sare ee labada maamul-goboleed.

Madaxweynaha Ximan iyo Xeeb, Cabdullaahi Baarleex ayaa isna dhankiisa sheegay in heshiiska labada dhinac uu yahay mid farxadeed, ayna soo dhaweynayaan dhinacooda, wuxuuna shacabka ugu baaqay inay taageeraan heshiika uu ku tilmaamay inuu yahay mid taariikhi ah.

Heshiiska labada maamul ee dariska ah wauxuu noqonaya kii ugu horreeyay ee ay si rasmi ah u gaaran,waxaana tallaabada ay madaxda labada maamul qaadeen soo dhaweeyay shacabka iyo mas'uuliyinta labada dhinac.

Iimaan Maxamed,Hiiraan Online
Iman@hiiraan.com
Gaalkacyo, Soomaaliya
See more at: http://hiiraan.com/news/2014/jan/warark ... DMQT1.dpuf

[flyWOODY]

hawiye is the most politically strongest clan in somalia. hawiye will get what it wants if they arent unreasonable. ximan iyo xeeb and galmudug will cease to exist though. im not sure what will happen but hawiye will walk away with minimum 2 states. this 2 state requirement will still get hawiye 2 states but hawiye wont use that 2 state formula n dir n rahanweyne will vote for hawiye in barlamaanka . habar gidir will make a state, hiiraan will make a state. and I think govt will directly control shabella dhexe and hawiye areas of shabella hoose or merge it all as greater banaadir population 4 million superpower hawiye not even including hiiraan iyo habar gidir areas walle u can see how langaab darod is, does darod even have 1 million,

[thegoodshepherd]

Flywood you said the 2 states requirement doesn't matter, it matters a lot actually. Half of Mudug united with Galgadud CANNOT become a federal state. Hiraan by itself CANNOT become a federal state. South mudug and galgadud must unite with hiraan to form a federal state, but reer Hiraan seem completly opposed. This is the main issue in my opinion.
We are not here to discuss Darood but the building of states for central regions. No caay please!!

[FarhanYare]

war waxaan intaad iska dhaaftiid bal puqland ka waran

[flyWOODY]

Flywood you said the 2 states requirement doesn't matter, it matters a lot actually. Half of Mudug united with Galgadud CANNOT become a federal state. Hiraan by itself CANNOT become a federal state. South mudug and galgadud must unite witlikean to form a federal state, but reer Hiraan seem completly opposed. This is the main issue in my opinion.
We are not here to discuss Darood but the building of states for central regions. No caay please!!

Kkkkkkkk listen let me show u something, 2 hawiye states will still form with 2 gobol requirment

Galgaduud/hiiraan state, shabelle middle and shabelle lower state. .... TADA!

But it wont happen, hawiye r biggest and only sfg supporters n sfg will respond to hawiye needs hawadle n hg relations are not the best n theyll prefer to have own state n govt will say okay, this is hawiye govt at the end of the day sfg survives because of hawiye support n cash like sfg cares about faroole or puntland who denies their governance waad walantahay, n dir n eelays will vote for hawiye in baarlamanka they r pro hawiye

This is my prediction like I said, galgaduud/koonfurta mudug, hiiraan state and sfg will merge banaadir n shabele middle n hawiye areas of lower shabelle under central control

But either way u will see minimum two hawiye states, this is hawiye govt dont forget that they will work n please those that helped the sfg, hawiye is sfg n sfg is hawiye, sfg exists today because of hawiye n sfg will help them back

[sahal80]

For your information southren mudug is considered a region(vision2016) so galgaduud and southren mudug will form one state.

There's some thing called political solution so, as an interim solution, hiiraan by december will form its own state if there's no other solution.

This conference will include all the clans that are found in hiiraan and the govt and UN will be there.

[SecretAgent]

No hawiye federal state before elections next president will be marehan 2016

[thegoodshepherd]

How can southern Mudug be a Gobol? I thought that 2 gobols and more meant the original 18 gobols. How can Hiiraan become a Federal state on its own? is that not opposed to the 2 gobols and more requirement?

[sahal80]

How can southern Mudug be a Gobol? I thought that 2 gobols and more meant the original 18 gobols. How can Hiiraan become a Federal state on its own? is that not opposed to the 2 gobols and more requirement?

I have already explained to you also I haven't stated hiiraan becoming a federal state of its own!

Again, hiiraan will not be forced into any thing during the INTERIM era, a political settlement will be applied to hiiraan in the next 2 years. There is no one single federal state now including puntland.

HW want to establish three states so they are voting for hiiraan, some irir clans too support to become a state of its own, constitutionally, the hiiraan elders havnt signed it bc of the article 46 until they were assured that hiiraan will have a special status, however, hiiraan mps will come up with a motion to change that article before the conference in december.

As for southren mudug, that's your own tafsiir! Peoples in two/of two gobols can form a state!

Anyways thats the official policy!

"After puntland and jubba, there remain 7 regions yet to conduct mergers ICLUDING SOUTHREN MUDUG(shows galmudug in the chart) this implies the establishment of 2-3 more regional states"

If we put the remainig as three, will be southren mudug-galgaduud, hiiraan and middle shabelle, bay, bakool and lower shabelle. There you got 7 provinces!!
http://newsomali.com/wp-content/uploads ... ion-1.docx

[original dervish]

The only approval needed to form a regional state is that of Nicholas Kay.
Forget your vision 2016 nonsense and six pillars baloney......J/Land has shown you it's all garbage.

[sahal80]

The only approval needed to form a regional state is that of Nicholas Kay.
Forget your vision 2016 nonsense and six pillars baloney......J/Land has shown you it's all garbage.

2016 nonsense hahahhaha adiga weerar aa igu heesaa lol say wtf you like "culusoow" is preparing his commandoos for many regions! uk oil companies singning a deal with govt and invating the concerned region is nothing but in the govts interests!
"It is unclear how the Alpha Group and Danab will work together — since both are focusing primarily on counterterrorism.
Security and political analysts who have been briefed on Danab say the main training area is 150 kilometres from Mogadishu in Ballidogle, where they have set up a base alongside a Soviet-era airstrip. This will be Danab’s base, where one unit will be housed.
Another group is expected to be based in Galkayo and a third in Kismayo, where the Shabab long held support."

[MarsinQorahay]

war waxaan intaad iska dhaaftiid bal puqland ka waran

It's in better shape than bombdishu

[hydrogen]

war waxaan intaad iska dhaaftiid bal puqland ka waran

It's in better shape than bombdishu

Bombdishu authorities don't tie up retarded cagdheers upside down and beat their feet with wooden sticks so you're right, Puntland has done a much better job in that department

[MarsinQorahay]

war waxaan intaad iska dhaaftiid bal puqland ka waran

It's in better shape than bombdishu

Bombdishu authorities don't tie up retarded cagdheers upside down and beat their feet with wooden sticks so you're right, Puntland has done a much better job in that department

hadaad ceeb darood ciil u qabtid ii sheeg aan diif ka keene.