Why should Mudug be divided into two? Federal camps so gala

[Murax]

Osob1/Marques,

Nothing hypocritical but I'm a realist. Puntland Has been living in peace, and building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob for 20 years under a real maamul. It is impractical and buffoonery to try to take away the fruits of their labour and be managed by a Qeybdiid or someone like that who 20 years later has not been able to even unite His clan. Puntland Has been doing well as a Darood State, and it must remain that way because that is a part of their fabric. Not being clannist, but I live in reality.

[Marques]

If you live in reality then why did you push for L/Shabelle to be ruled from Baydhabo when the ground forces suggest otherwise? Afgooye to Marka is held by pro SNA forces allied to Shabelle state but no, you brushed that off with "2 state rule must be implemented." Adeer marmarsiiyada iska daa just come out like thegoodshepherd and be honest that you also want to have you cake and eat it..

[Khalid Ali]

Somalis are never honest really honest about what is going on here, Puntlanders and to some extend other daroods will try to justify the divide of Mudug because its practical at the same time try enforce the 2 regions or more formula on other clans the throats. No one is saying Puntland has no right to Mudug it ruled its part of Mudug for quiet some time but the whole point of federalism is that the regions form federal state if that doesn't happen the whole federal thing cannot fly at some time the issue of Galkacyo has to be addressed. If regions are broken down under any circumstances we cant get along is no excuse or Puntland predates the SFG than other regions can break down their regions to and from states.

[Osob101]

Osob1/Marques,

Nothing hypocritical but I'm a realist. Puntland Has been living in peace, and building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob for 20 years under a real maamul. It is impractical and buffoonery to try to take away the fruits of their labour and be managed by a Qeybdiid or someone like that who 20 years later has not been able to even unite His clan. Puntland Has been doing well as a Darood State, and it must remain that way because that is a part of their fabric. Not being clannist, but I live in reality.

You Live in reality? Just come out and say your after the interest of your Clan. For all i care all of Mudug can join Puntland but you my friend are the epitome of hypocrisy. You wanted a Federal Somalia and once supported the two or more gobol state rule and now here you are flip flopping because it hit close to home.

[Osob101]

If you live in reality then why did you push for L/Shabelle to be ruled from Baydhabo when the ground forces suggest otherwise? Afgooye to Marka is held by pro SNA forces allied to Shabelle state but no, you brushed that off with "2 state rule must be implemented." Adeer marmarsiiyada iska daa just come out like thegoodshepherd and be honest that you also want to have you cake and eat it..

Because he was trying to Sideline Hawiye but than he wont admit it

[MrPrestige]

Puntland predates all this states being created in the south. Lower Shabelle/ Jubbaland were vacant and never had a proper adminstration since 1991,
people shouldn't compare apple and oranges.

[flyWOODY]

he also said a month ago that cabudwaq should not join central state but a special city with its own authority kkkkkkk

[Chinaman]

Puntland predates all this states being created in the south. Lower Shabelle/ Jubbaland were vacant and never had a proper adminstration since 1991,
people shouldn't compare apple and oranges.

Bitter Hutus (the whole lot of them) can't take us on and have to try to break up the state into smaller parts. Hutus are very desperate these days ha loo soo doceeyo

[Murax]

Marques,

Actually I said many times, that if I had My druthers the Southwest thing would not happen and that HG are needed to fight AS there more than D&M. When the 3 region was established I still supported it though because I thought the 6 region was a pipe dream and a waste of time. If Xaad, Diiriye were able to successfully lobby for a 2 region Middle and Lower Shabelle I'd support it too. If the agreement gets changed tomorrow and its a 2 state region I'll support that too. I just wanted that 6 region fiasco to be put to rest.

[Murax]

Osob1/Marques,

Nothing hypocritical but I'm a realist. Puntland Has been living in peace, and building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob for 20 years under a real maamul. It is impractical and buffoonery to try to take away the fruits of their labour and be managed by a Qeybdiid or someone like that who 20 years later has not been able to even unite His clan. Puntland Has been doing well as a Darood State, and it must remain that way because that is a part of their fabric. Not being clannist, but I live in reality.

You Live in reality? Just come out and say your after the interest of your Clan. For all i care all of Mudug can join Puntland but you my friend are the epitome of hypocrisy. You wanted a Federal Somalia and once supported the two or more gobol state rule and now here you are flip flopping because it hit close to home.

1 and a half is close enough. Honestly I question how much You know about Mudug. There is no way on earth the whole region can go under one state. A entire bitter war was fought there and a peace treaty signed that specifically said 'You over there, You over there' and that is how peace has been maintained. If anybody is being unreasonable its You.

[FarhanYare]

Osob1/Marques,

Nothing hypocritical but I'm a realist. Puntland Has been living in peace, and building Northern Gaalkacyo, Golgodob for 20 years under a real maamul. It is impractical and buffoonery to try to take away the fruits of their labour and be managed by a Qeybdiid or someone like that who 20 years later has not been able to even unite His clan. Puntland Has been doing well as a Darood State, and it must remain that way because that is a part of their fabric. Not being clannist, but I live in reality.

You Live in reality? Just come out and say your after the interest of your Clan. For all i care all of Mudug can join Puntland but you my friend are the epitome of hypocrisy. You wanted a Federal Somalia and once supported the two or more gobol state rule and now here you are flip flopping because it hit close to home.

Naceeb aad iljeex uqabtiid halkaas buu maraa inaad dulkood dhabayaco siisiid smh!

[The_Emperior5]

Farhanyare aslong as osob has Mogadishu she cares little what happens out there Unuka leh

Mudulood supremacy

[Marques]

Marques,

Actually I said many times, that if I had My druthers the Southwest thing would not happen and that HG are needed to fight AS there more than D&M. When the 3 region was established I still supported it though because I thought the 6 region was a pipe dream and a waste of time. If Xaad, Diiriye were able to successfully lobby for a 2 region Middle and Lower Shabelle I'd support it too. If the agreement gets changed tomorrow and its a 2 state region I'll support that too. I just wanted that 6 region fiasco to be put to rest.

So the style of Federalism is open for differences? What do you say about Hiiraan justifying itself as a federal state alone, since it's the only region in the former Somalia not to have been cut up into pieces?

[Murax]

Marques,

Actually I said many times, that if I had My druthers the Southwest thing would not happen and that HG are needed to fight AS there more than D&M. When the 3 region was established I still supported it though because I thought the 6 region was a pipe dream and a waste of time. If Xaad, Diiriye were able to successfully lobby for a 2 region Middle and Lower Shabelle I'd support it too. If the agreement gets changed tomorrow and its a 2 state region I'll support that too. I just wanted that 6 region fiasco to be put to rest.

So the style of Federalism is open for differences? What do you say about Hiiraan justifying itself as a federal state alone, since it's the only region in the former Somalia not to have been cut up into pieces?

That's perfectly fine. I'm for Federalism. Whatever tweaks need to be made to make it work, that's what should happen.

[STARKAST]

Marques, maybe it'll be wiser to worry about sl/ceelbuur, that will also be cut up such as parts sool, sanaag iyo cayn (togdheer) so stop with this behaviour Mudug isn't the sole exception to the rule.In regards to reer mudug, its ludicrous at even talking about the reer pl there joining another foreign admin. Pl was created before sfg, a good reason and yeah we are special
Does the constitution really have any value ? when lawmakers that write it get murdered every week (saado iyo maanta) literally (in xamar) !