HSM has potentially giving away trillions of dollars

[JamalAddow]

We could have charged a small levy on all them boats and ships that pass through on our side of Gulf of Aden. Forget about Oil, this alone is worth trillions.

I forgave him after he signed some shady deals with the 1 week old Soma Oil company but giving our territorial waters was the last straw.

[BlackVelvet]

Source?

[Chinaman]

The typical Hutu's IQ range is between 50 to 62 respectively. What else do you expect from such folks tbh? Is it any wonder they haven't been able to build a viable Maamul for over 23 years

[Colonel]

The typical Hutu's IQ range is between 50 to 62 respectively.

Average Somali IQ is 58

[JamalAddow]

Source?

http://www.un.org/depts/los/LEGISLATION ... ES/SOM.htm

Click on the first link. It says Somalia has defined its limits of EEZ. Once you accept this it means that you've accepted that your territorial waters are 12nm instead of the 200nm that we had before under Law No. 37 on the Territorial Sea and Ports 1972.

This is the proclamation by the President.
http://shacabkamedia.com/5705/fadeexadi ... adeyn-ah-/

There were warning signs, the previous gov't tries to do this, but they weren't recognised internationally.
http://www.hiiraan.com/op2_rss/2011/Oct ... eason.aspx

[JamalAddow]

The typical Hutu's IQ range is between 50 to 62 respectively. What else do you expect from such folks tbh? Is it any wonder they haven't been able to build a viable Maamul for over 23 years

What has this got to do with Hawiye? It was your boy Ina Abdirashad Ali Sharmarke who started all this. Read about the Memorandum of Understanding. Abdiweli Gas took part aswell.

[Chinaman]

Average Somali IQ is 58

Then it must be even lower because our southern brothers are even retarded for Somali standards

Walaaxawla And we wonder why Somalia is the way it is.

[BlackVelvet]

This is the kind of thing that just baffles me. You have gone to these extreme lengths to make up some elaborate lie which you have so thoroughly committed to when you could have just read the links you yourself have posted


Read point No.1 in this document. If any one of you can be bothered make a screenshot and post it for the lazy people.

It says the EEZ of Somalia stretches 200nm

http://www.un.org/depts/los/LEGISLATION ... mation.pdf



Y U Lie for NO Reason

[JamalAddow]

This is the kind of thing that just baffles me. You have gone to these extreme lengths to make up some elaborate lie which you have so thoroughly committed to when you could have just read the links you yourself have posted


Read point No.1 in this document. If any one of you can be bothered make a screenshot and post it for the lazy people.

It says the EEZ of Somalia stretches 200nm

http://www.un.org/depts/los/LEGISLATION ... mation.pdf



Y U Lie for NO Reason

I don't expect your primitive female mind to understand. The kitchen is that way

But I'll indulge you one last time.

There's a difference betwween EEZ and territorial waters, and in the previous gov't we had 200nm of territorial waters, he's trying to make it 12nm by declaring EEZ.

The difference between the 200 nm of territorial water and 200 nm of the EEZ defined in the UN Convention on the Law of Sea (UNCLOS) also known as the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) is the span of the territorial sovereignty of the coastal states and the restrictions on the use of their marine resource. EEZ is intended to restrict the territorial sovereignty of coastal States to 12 nm and to expand the sovereign rights of fishing, navigation and scientific research of the powerful maritime and industrial States within the 188 nm for their military and economic security. The strategic decision of each coastal state is influenced by its long term strategic interests, and the changes in technological innovation as well as the special features of its sea.

http://www.hiiraan.com/op2_rss/2011/Oct ... eason.aspx

[BlackVelvet]

Don't drag the conversation to those levels.


Now explain how having 200 nm of an Exclusive Economic Zone whereby the country has sovereign rights will result in the loss of trillions of dollars


Also having researched this matter it seems every coastal country has the same amount of territorial and EEZ allocation. Though you may pass through another country's EEZ you may not fish, mine or exploit any of its resources? So other than the passing through, what's the difference? What have we lost?

[JamalAddow]

Don't drag the conversation to those levels.


Now explain how having 200 nm of an Exclusive Economic Zone whereby the country has sovereign rights will result in the loss of trillions of dollars


Also having researched this matter it seems every coastal country has the same amount of territorial and EEZ allocation. Though you may pass through another country's EEZ you may not fish, mine or exploit any of its resources? So other than the passing through, what's the difference? What have we lost?

Are you actually comparing a place where you have nominal 'rights' to another place that is sovereign territory. Compare Somalia(northern parts where we're not occupied) to Galbeed or NFD. Not the same at all.

EEZ destroys us cuz we wont be able to take those countries and corporations to court who have been nuclear waste, illegally fishing and kidnapping our pirate freedom fighters. EEZ is a way for the western nations to curb and stop us from becoming a regional powerhouse again.

[MadMullah20]

Doesn't parliament have to approve?? Is it too late ?

[BlackVelvet]

Hang on, why is it called an Exclusive Economic Zone if it is not exclusive to the country?

From what I've read that's exactly what it is. The only difference between EEZ and territorial waters is that they can pass through innocently without permission whereas if you go into a country's territorial waters without permission you are invading it.

Do you have information that says differently? I'd be interested to read up on it.


Also seems like this is the international standard. When it comes to territorial waters and EEZ all countries have 12nm and 200nm respectively.

[JamalAddow]

Doesn't parliament have to approve?? Is it too late ?

DJ are really powerful unlike the previous regimes, so they're trying to bypass the parliament and deal straight with the UN agencies involved.

Hang on, why is it called an Exclusive Economic Zone if it is not exclusive to the country?

From what I've read that's exactly what it is. The only difference between EEZ and territorial waters is that they can pass through innocently without permission whereas if you go into a country's territorial waters without permission you are invading it.

Do you have information that says differently? I'd be interested to read up on it.


Also seems like this is the international standard. When it comes to territorial waters and EEZ all countries have 12nm and 200nm respectively.

Haven't you read anything I said. They're giving away 188nm of our territorial waters of our country, but your like 'no other countries have 12nm of territorial waters too', it doesn't matter, parents always say to their kids, 'I don't care what Sacdiyo or Farhiyo's parents say, no is a no your not having 12nm territorial waters'.

Somalia is a special kid, he has to have 200nm of territorial waters, cuz her parents love her, and they want the best for her, its your choice if you wanna be Sacdiyo's mum or Somalia's mum.

[BlackVelvet]

What is the difference? Where is the trillion dollars figure coming from?

I want to know. I'm not asking for the sake of it.