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for the first time the west is holding a conference on SNA

Postby sahal80 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:53 pm

A good sign of getting serious about somalia


I heard about yuulks visit to the UK on tuesday, was told he will arrive on friday but probably he postponed it bc of baydhabo

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Somali PM heads to London for upcoming conference on Somalia
A delegation led by Somali Prime Minister Abdiweli Sheikh Ahmed on Monday left Somali capital Mogadishu to attend an upcoming conference to discuss ways to enhance the capacity of Somalia’s armed forces which is expected to kick off tomorrow in London.
The prime minister who briefed the media in Mogadishu before his departure expressed the importance of the conference for the capacity of Somalia’s armed forces saying he expects significant outcome from the meeting.
International donors will attend the meeting and the prime minister is expected to meet with delegates from international community and the Somali diaspora community in London.
The prime ministers returned from a recent visit to Baidoa town where he attended the opening ceremony of a reconciliation conference for south western communities which currently underway in the city.
He is accompanied by senior government officials including ministers of defense and information.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby Murax » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:21 pm

Its really nice to see Xassan Sh not representing Somalia all the time on the National Stage like Xassan Sh was doing When Saacid was in. Great sign seeing the PM taking on this role, as Guys who lived abroad in the West, worked internationally will advocate better for Somalia's behalf than Xassan Sh.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby Substance » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:31 pm

The project of bringing back the SNA should be with the PM office, its vital matter.

Good devolopment.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby MarsinQorahay » Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:35 pm

The PM is doing a wonderful job, he is more serious than shirdon hurdaaye.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby sahal80 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:35 pm

Its really nice to see Xassan Sh not representing Somalia all the time on the National Stage like Xassan Sh was doing When Saacid was in. Great sign seeing the PM taking on this role, as Guys who lived abroad in the West, worked internationally will advocate better for Somalia's behalf than Xassan Sh.
Lol I agree he's different than saacid not politically though just personality but the stage is different, in this stage there's a need for new faces. This is actually why this pm was appointed. It won't work the same old folks being in the same places when they have received what was promised in the old conferences.

Don't think I'm reducing the pms political role, the game is just like that.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby sahal80 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:43 pm

The PM is doing a wonderful job, he is more serious than shirdon hurdaaye.
Lol when shirdoon was there you had a nightmare! Ask yourself why and why he and hassan sheekh have splitted after the agreement was reached? In his time govt was two camps

Shirdoon was just honest guys, he was respecting the cahd between him and hassan sheekh like dividing the job between them but politically he was independent, I mean his political views.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby Khalid Ali » Mon Sep 15, 2014 7:52 pm

What we see is that the pm is willing to be on the for front he wants to be in the decision making

He is playing his card wants to stand his ground we have seen the whole sanbalooshe fiasco

He is taking part of international conferences but sahal is right to in some way. there hasn't been a real dispute between pm and pres over their respectable roles . they seem to be oke with it but this on wants to be seen and heard and take charge to some extend.

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby sahal80 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:25 am

What we see is that the pm is willing to be on the for front he wants to be in the decision making

He is playing his card wants to stand his ground we have seen the whole sanbalooshe fiasco

He is taking part of international conferences but sahal is right to in some way. there hasn't been a real dispute between pm and pres over their respectable roles . they seem to be oke with it but this on wants to be seen and heard and take charge to some extend.
its hard to explain this to the non insiders of the mogadishu politics but I'm not telling lies or playing down this pms role in the govt, unlike of saacid, this pm is kinda part of dj, he got his dj camp like deputy pm and mohamed nuur gacal his adviser

These guys are very strong in the govt just like farah abdulqadir and guleed

Do you know that guleed has fired presidents nephew for revealing secretly to some that he will be the presidents adviser?

The pm had a beef with some reer hiiraan politicians and they too don't like the whole of his camp, mostly gacal who wants to be the interior

Sanbalooshe was one of the strong point the pm was using against goodah that two cousins have similar posts so one of them must go

So the deputy FM(looks like the pm was using him) has visited sanbaloolshe who had farah abdulqadir on his side(they share business)

Sanbaloolshe has miscalculated the power of the DPM and has done a big mistake by telling him " adigana waanko tarxiili"

When DPM is back, yuulka camp met and dicided to discharge him for his behavior

Presidents camp can't do shyt about discharging him bc the pms camp are right professionally

When a worker commits a thift he will get discharged without waiting the manager.

But prez want him to exit in a good way, he says he's taliyaha ciidanka nabad sugida and I'm responible for this job

But that's constitutionally, president has nothing to do with shaqada, this guy has failed in his shaqo so he has to go.

I will put for guys this simple way: saacid had clashed with dj, can youlka clash with them? Let him show us clashing with single dj leader! Farah abdulqadir for example?

He can't bc they will unite against him!

Prez hassan is not worry of abdiwali at all bc of his dj circle.

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Postby MarsinQorahay » Tue Sep 16, 2014 4:51 am

The PM is doing a wonderful job, he is more serious than shirdon hurdaaye.
Lol when shirdoon was there you had a nightmare! Ask yourself why and why he and hassan sheekh have splitted after the agreement was reached? In his time govt was two camps

Shirdoon was just honest guys, he was respecting the cahd between him and hassan sheekh like dividing the job between them but politically he was independent, I mean his political views.
Nightmare? no i didn't, Ahmed Madoobe made his little puppet millitas run, barre ran away, iftin baasto and baaley handed themselves to Jubbaland, Hablaha galgaduud basically lost the fight. :up:

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby SomaliDefenceCouncil » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:48 am

qaxooti Ogaden will all respects Barre Hiiraale and his fighters are inside Kismayo, Barre Hiiraale controls Kismayo.

Jubbaland does not exist, if so what does the Kenyan puppet Madoobe control in the Jubba's, let alone Kismayo. NOTHING lol

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby BlackRain » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:41 am

What we see is that the pm is willing to be on the for front he wants to be in the decision making

He is playing his card wants to stand his ground we have seen the whole sanbalooshe fiasco

He is taking part of international conferences but sahal is right to in some way. there hasn't been a real dispute between pm and pres over their respectable roles . they seem to be oke with it but this on wants to be seen and heard and take charge to some extend.
its hard to explain this to the non insiders of the mogadishu politics but I'm not telling lies or playing down this pms role in the govt, unlike of saacid, this pm is kinda part of dj, he got his dj camp like deputy pm and mohamed nuur gacal his adviser

These guys are very strong in the govt just like farah abdulqadir and guleed

Do you know that guleed has fired presidents nephew for revealing secretly to some that he will be the presidents adviser?

The pm had a beef with some reer hiiraan politicians and they too don't like the whole of his camp, mostly gacal who wants to be the interior

Sanbalooshe was one of the strong point the pm was using against goodah that two cousins have similar posts so one of them must go

So the deputy FM(looks like the pm was using him) has visited sanbaloolshe who had farah abdulqadir on his side(they share business)

Sanbaloolshe has miscalculated the power of the DPM and has done a big mistake by telling him " adigana waanko tarxiili"

When DPM is back, yuulka camp met and dicided to discharge him for his behavior

Presidents camp can't do shyt about discharging him bc the pms camp are right professionally

When a worker commits a thift he will get discharged without waiting the manager.

But prez want him to exit in a good way, he says he's taliyaha ciidanka nabad sugida and I'm responible for this job

But that's constitutionally, president has nothing to do with shaqada, this guy has failed in his shaqo so he has to go.

I will put for guys this simple way: saacid had clashed with dj, can youlka clash with them? Let him show us clashing with single dj leader! Farah abdulqadir for example?

He can't bc they will unite against him!

Prez hassan is not worry of abdiwali at all bc of his dj circle.
Al professor al-khiyali, I think you are wrong here big time. Why would Abdiwali initiate conflict with Damul Jadiid group when they didn't dare to cross him like they did to Shirdoon? DJ humiliated and really sidelined Shirdoon for a while and pretty much made him irrelevant. When Shirdoon finally woke up from his 8 month sleep, it was too late then and he was fired swiftly , because he had no friends. Now can they do that to Abdiwali? The DJ leaders know that they will definitely be opening a pandora box. Abdiwali will bring the whole clique down as he is friend with everybody from Igad, Jubbland, EU and Puntland

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby sahal80 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:03 pm

Blackrain

Very superficial way of thinking!

Look now hassan sheekh is in kismayo, still barre hiiraale and many gedo politicians are not attending the conference

Now think why saacid was removed? Bc he was against the addis agreement!

Abdi wali fits the current agenda!

This why he got appointed minal asaas!

Govt wants to get the ports and this to happen they must implement the agreement from their side

This means forgeting about barre hiiraale and concentrating on their interests

Abdiwali no matter he had originally this position of supporting jubbaland or not he's been used in the dam jadids game!

On the other hand, saacid was independent, was reprenting barre hiiraale backed by the HG ilaa akhirihi

When goonjeex was brought to hassan sheekh by guuleed he said "o o o o war nin reer mudug kale ha itusin!"

I guess you don't know the politics so you will stay naïve

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Re: for the first time the west is holding a conference on S

Postby sahal80 » Tue Sep 16, 2014 6:30 pm

Things that happened since is saacid is gone

-1 governor kalil the last remnants of saacid being forced to go to kismayo

2-berre hiiraales army getting incorborated

2-kamaal guutaale loosing his post

3-guuleeds getting marginalized

4-farah abdulqadir controlling the game

5-HG losing the interior post, security post in banadir administration

6-kismayo conference without barre hiiraale

You can understand now what's abdiwalis role :implemented farah abdulqadirs vision!.


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