Why do Somali's tend to cry so much when Arabs call them abd

[iandi]

I get along fine with bantu or negroid Africans, the only thing that I get apprehensive about them is when they obsess over our women. It feels like many black Americans and Africans of the bantu extraction only want to accept us as black not for the purpose of solidarity but to sleep with and marry our women since most have some kind of obsession with white features and we cushites tend to have those features.

I've even met many who don't consider us black one day and would tell me they think we are fake africans invaders or the Jews of Africa but then sing kumbaya the next day when it comes to our women. I want to preserve our Cushitic race, which is why I think it's important for us to recognise that we are bound by our skin colour and our shared experience with racism but we are still very unique and different to Bantus, west Africans and African Americans and we should all value and protect this uniqueness.
And as much as Mailman wants to convince us that whites don't see the difference between cushites and other Africans, the truth is they do. I've been called the bronze skin Julian Caesar by my colleagues since I kind of look like a darker skin Greek person with silky hair.
And my interaction with bantu Africans also confirm that we are seen as different to most other Africans

LOL! Goodness!

What is so offensive about my comment by Jamaican brother. What, we shouldn't value our own uniqueness?

Not Jamaican and not your brother and your stuff is not insulting to me in the least. Intriguing though.

[iandi]

To my understanding, in the Carribean they have their own 'caste' system which is based on how mixed you are. Appearently to my understanding the more mixed you are the higher status you have. So presuming I'm right, I find it very amusing for certain people to point fingers at HoA when their own nations are even more dysfunctional.

What's the source of your "understanding"?

Anyway I believe the thread started out discussing Somalis and their relationship with their arab brethren ...but what i find amazing is how quickly such discussions pivot away from that relationship to focus on somali hatred for bantu. its almost as if the bantu hatred thing helps you cope with something. I can't tell you how often i've seen this...on this forum and elsewhere. Intriguing in a macabre sort of way.

[gegiroor]

Nope, Arabs never called me abd. It all depends who you associate with and where you put your nose in.

Second, I have no hate against fellow Africans from Africa nor blacks in America, Carribean, or anywhere else.

Third, without the struggle of Africans Americans, no African, Asian, Oriental, women, or any other minority would have gotten their rights in the West.

Fourth, when the civil war occurred in Somalia, we were nearly welcomed in all of the Bantu majority nations in Africa. We have settled and obtained in some of them.

Now, grow up people and quit the Arab and Bantu obsession. I have never seen people who are so insecure and obsessed with others than some of the people in this forum. Life has more to offer, so why be so obsessed with people dont comment here.

[7anseba]

To my understanding, in the Carribean they have their own 'caste' system which is based on how mixed you are. Appearently to my understanding the more mixed you are the higher status you have. So presuming I'm right, I find it very amusing for certain people to point fingers at HoA when their own nations are even more dysfunctional.

What's the source of your "understanding"?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... d=12001750

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/woman-ma ... 60645.html

http://www.goleancaribbean.com/blog/?p=4506

Just a couple of quick findings. Do you deny such things are an issue there?

Anyway I believe the thread started out discussing Somalis and their relationship with their arab brethren ...but what i find amazing is how quickly such discussions pivot away from that relationship to focus on somali hatred for bantu. its almost as if the bantu hatred thing helps you cope with something. I can't tell you how often i've seen this...on this forum and elsewhere. Intriguing in a macabre sort of way.

Well from my viewpoint they are simply victims of white supremacy. Through either religious, political, social, legal or any other form of indoctrination. What you must understand is that this is a learned behaviour imposed by the white supremacist. Why does HoA feel like they are 'better' than 'bantus'? In all honesty what difference are our native lands conditions than other African nations? As far as I can see the only difference is that we may have looks or appearences which resembles more to the white supremacists. I would compare it to house slave and field slave scenario. More 'white' appearnce = house slave and more 'black' appearence = field slave. In any matter you are still a slave.

Also I would like to tell you that anybody can be brave and outspoken behind a screen, plus only deeply insecure people will spend time obsessing over other people's looks.

[iandi]

yep there is some remnants of white supremacy ideology in the caribbean even though we would like to think that we are beyond that. Some islands are more indoctrinated than others. Still a wonderful part of the world to grow up in though.

As for your response on how easily somalis pivot to "bantu-hating" no matter what the original thread is about...i like your assessment. It really is a lesson in deep insecurity. I suspect that despite all the bravado that you hear from some there is a much deeper trauma of the soul and Bantu-hating vitriol allows for some sort of coping mechanism. But its destructive because Bantus will then hate back and then the hatred feeds on itself and the cycle continues.

Nothing is wrong for somalis to make the case that they are not black...or not african...or not whatever...i think that is fine and everyone is entitled to get in where they fit in....where the whole thing goes awry is when the vitriol about other people and culture being inferior to you and yours become standard chatter....and its ironic that somalis seems to have become expert at this despite reality....as i said maybe its a coping mechanism.

Human beings are really fascinating creatures.

[7anseba]

yep there is some remnants of white supremacy ideology in the caribbean even though we would like to think that we are beyond that. Some islands are more indoctrinated than others. Still a wonderful part of the world to grow up in though.

As for your response on how easily somalis pivot to "bantu-hating" no matter what the original thread is about...i like your assessment. It really is a lesson in deep insecurity. I suspect that despite all the bravado that you hear from some there is a much deeper trauma of the soul and Bantu-hating vitriol allows for some sort of coping mechanism. But its destructive because Bantus will then hate back and then the hatred feeds on itself and the cycle continues.

Nothing is wrong for somalis to make the case that they are not black...or not african...or not whatever...i think that is fine and everyone is entitled to get in where they fit in....where the whole thing goes awry is when the vitriol about other people and culture being inferior to you and yours become standard chatter....and its ironic that somalis seems to have become expert at this despite reality....as i said maybe its a coping mechanism.

Human beings are really fascinating creatures.

I would like to add that this is not only a Somali issue, this type of thinking exist in the entire Horn of Africa region and Africa at large in one form or another.

[ihatewritingessays]

IDFW Arabs anyway, so I don't care about the word Abd.

[Hararboy]

yep there is some remnants of white supremacy ideology in the caribbean even though we would like to think that we are beyond that. Some islands are more indoctrinated than others. Still a wonderful part of the world to grow up in though.

As for your response on how easily somalis pivot to "bantu-hating" no matter what the original thread is about...i like your assessment. It really is a lesson in deep insecurity. I suspect that despite all the bravado that you hear from some there is a much deeper trauma of the soul and Bantu-hating vitriol allows for some sort of coping mechanism. But its destructive because Bantus will then hate back and then the hatred feeds on itself and the cycle continues.

Nothing is wrong for somalis to make the case that they are not black...or not african...or not whatever...i think that is fine and everyone is entitled to get in where they fit in....where the whole thing goes awry is when the vitriol about other people and culture being inferior to you and yours become standard chatter....and its ironic that somalis seems to have become expert at this despite reality....as i said maybe its a coping mechanism.

Human beings are really fascinating creatures.

I dont hear much "bantu" hating, perhaps a few years ago but not now.

[Hararboy]

I get along fine with bantu or negroid Africans, the only thing that I get apprehensive about them is when they obsess over our women. It feels like many black Americans and Africans of the bantu extraction only want to accept us as black not for the purpose of solidarity but to sleep with and marry our women since most have some kind of obsession with white features and we cushites tend to have those features.

I've even met many who don't consider us black one day and would tell me they think we are fake africans invaders or the Jews of Africa but then sing kumbaya the next day when it comes to our women. I want to preserve our Cushitic race, which is why I think it's important for us to recognise that we are bound by our skin colour and our shared experience with racism but we are still very unique and different to Bantus, west Africans and African Americans and we should all value and protect this uniqueness.
And as much as Mailman wants to convince us that whites don't see the difference between cushites and other Africans, the truth is they do. I've been called the bronze skin Julian Caesar by my colleagues since I kind of look like a darker skin Greek person with silky hair.
And my interaction with bantu Africans also confirm that we are seen as different to most other Africans

LOL! Goodness![/quote]
What is so offensive about my comment by Jamaican brother. What, we shouldn't value our own uniqueness?[/quote]

Not Jamaican and not your brother and your stuff is not insulting to me in the least. Intriguing though.[/quote]
What is so intriguing about my comment?

[iandi]

I dont hear much "bantu" hating, perhaps a few years ago but not now.

You don't consider this as hateful?

SMH don't speak for me.....i and everyone here knows how much i hate white people...so no i wouldn't

but i don't doubt that you would choose white people.....smh

ps somali people do all the things your referring to as well....but you would ignore that to save face eh? f-king shoe shining coon

Go twerk on camera for WorldStarhiphop you Jareer-wannabe. You suck up.

I never once stated that I have love for cadaan people. I just have the common sense to realize that Jareer people are some of the lowest people in the United States. That's why their communities are so crime-ridden, and their women have 11 children out of wedlock, their HIV rate is like 10x higher than the national average. It's why they can't speak well, or dress well, they look like trash. They release rap songs which glorify murder and drug usage. These people are disgusting, and we have a few misguided Somali boys in Canada/USA who imitate these trashy people, and they end up being put in prison because of it.

Wallahi I see Jareer-Americans as no better than the Gypsies of Europe. Or the Alibistains of Canada. They are no different. They are a trashy group of people, with a few exceptions of people who are respectful.

Why are you so adamant to defend the reputation of Jareer people? What's with your deep infatuation with these lowly, classless group of people?

[iandi]

I get along fine with bantu or negroid Africans, the only thing that I get apprehensive about them is when they obsess over our women. It feels like many black Americans and Africans of the bantu extraction only want to accept us as black not for the purpose of solidarity but to sleep with and marry our women since most have some kind of obsession with white features and we cushites tend to have those features.

I've even met many who don't consider us black one day and would tell me they think we are fake africans invaders or the Jews of Africa but then sing kumbaya the next day when it comes to our women. I want to preserve our Cushitic race, which is why I think it's important for us to recognise that we are bound by our skin colour and our shared experience with racism but we are still very unique and different to Bantus, west Africans and African Americans and we should all value and protect this uniqueness.
And as much as Mailman wants to convince us that whites don't see the difference between cushites and other Africans, the truth is they do. I've been called the bronze skin Julian Caesar by my colleagues since I kind of look like a darker skin Greek person with silky hair.
And my interaction with bantu Africans also confirm that we are seen as different to most other Africans

LOL! Goodness!

What is so offensive about my comment by Jamaican brother. What, we shouldn't value our own uniqueness?

Not Jamaican and not your brother and your stuff is not insulting to me in the least. Intriguing though.
What is so intriguing about my comment?[/quote]

Its intriguing that you think "bantus" accept you because of your so-called "white" features. Which i can tell you is categorically false. I think you are projecting your feelings on others. I think it is you that think your "whiteness" gives you some sort of upperhand...which again is delusional...but seems to be rather widespread in your community.

I can speak for caribbean people, and trust me when i tell you that up until a few years ago caribbean people...especially those with African lineage...have been intrigued with people from all over the continent as they see the place as a long lost ancestral home. You see and hear it in the culture that they have cultivated in the new world.

This new communication age though has brought more perspective to the differences in the people that live on the continent and so it has become a less and less romanticized place....but many caribbean people still have a fondness for africa.

So it is not your "whiteness" that might have motivated caribbean people to brotherhood with you, it is more than likely the fact that you are from the continent. But again that romanticizing of africa and its people is now giving way to reality in that the more caribbean and black people in the new world come into contact with blogs like this (and there are many) the more they would be hit with what is reality on the ground...i.e. people from africa can be just as much your enemy as people from anywhere else on the planet....unpleasant though it may be. The way i see it these blogs are both intriguing and educational. It is a good thing.

I'm also intrigue as to why you would get worked up about the decisions that individuals make with their lives as to who they choose to build relationships with....but that's a other discussion.

[Theguardian]

I wanna a kid just like him
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If only I was an Arab

[Hararboy]

I get along fine with bantu or negroid Africans, the only thing that I get apprehensive about them is when they obsess over our women. It feels like many black Americans and Africans of the bantu extraction only want to accept us as black not for the purpose of solidarity but to sleep with and marry our women since most have some kind of obsession with white features and we cushites tend to have those features.

I've even met many who don't consider us black one day and would tell me they think we are fake africans invaders or the Jews of Africa but then sing kumbaya the next day when it comes to our women. I want to preserve our Cushitic race, which is why I think it's important for us to recognise that we are bound by our skin colour and our shared experience with racism but we are still very unique and different to Bantus, west Africans and African Americans and we should all value and protect this uniqueness.
And as much as Mailman wants to convince us that whites don't see the difference between cushites and other Africans, the truth is they do. I've been called the bronze skin Julian Caesar by my colleagues since I kind of look like a darker skin Greek person with silky hair.
And my interaction with bantu Africans also confirm that we are seen as different to most other Africans

LOL! Goodness!

What is so offensive about my comment by Jamaican brother. What, we shouldn't value our own uniqueness?

Not Jamaican and not your brother and your stuff is not insulting to me in the least. Intriguing though.
What is so intriguing about my comment?

Its intriguing that you think "bantus" accept you because of your so-called "white" features. Which i can tell you is categorically false. I think you are projecting your feelings on others. I think it is you that think your "whiteness" gives you some sort of upperhand...which again is delusional...but seems to be rather widespread in your community.

I can speak for caribbean people, and trust me when i tell you that up until a few years ago caribbean people...especially those with African lineage...have been intrigued with people from all over the continent as they see the place as a long lost ancestral home. You see and hear it in the culture that they have cultivated in the new world.

This new communication age though has brought more perspective to the differences in the people that live on the continent and so it has become a less and less romanticized place....but many caribbean people still have a fondness for africa.

So it is not your "whiteness" that might have motivated caribbean people to brotherhood with you, it is more than likely the fact that you are from the continent. But again that romanticizing of africa and its people is now giving way to reality in that the more caribbean and black people in the new world come into contact with blogs like this (and there are many) the more they would be hit with what is reality on the ground...i.e. people from africa can be just as much your enemy as people from anywhere else on the planet....unpleasant though it may be. The way i see it these blogs are both intriguing and educational. It is a good thing.

I'm also intrigue as to why you would get worked up about the decisions that individuals make with their lives as to who they choose to build relationships with....but that's a other discussion.
[/quote]
when i talk about black people putting east africans on a pedestal, i meant African americans and other black communities that live next to the east african diapsora community, carribeans dont really have much interactions with east africans and vice versa. Jamaicans are usually cool and I definitely respect you all more than African americans.

[iandi]

when i talk about black people putting east africans on a pedestal, i meant African americans and other black communities that live next to the east african diapsora community, carribeans dont really have much interactions with east africans and vice versa. Jamaicans are usually cool and I definitely respect you all more than African americans.

So just to be clear African Americans put East Africans on a Pedestal and you despise them for it......that makes a lot of sense. Maybe you'd have more respect for them if they regard you the same way the arabs do for example. Very logical.

Again I think the dynamic is the same...african americans have a different experience and different problems from caribbean people but i think they had respected and had a soft spot for africans in much the same way that caribbean people did i.e. because of the connection to what they deemed their ancestral continent....not because of some so-called "white features".....I think that affection might be on the decline though as these groups come to know each other better....i'm sure you'd be happy to know that.

[Raganimo]

I've noticed the Somali men on Twitter are very effeminate. They whine like bitches, and they always complain about "Whitey" discrimination. Wallahi they have no honor at all. None. No sharaaf. No pride.

They have a deep inferiority complex, and it's rotting them from the inside. I suspect there's a lack of testosterone in their bodies.

They don't know how to stand on their own two feet and rely on themselves, instead of constantly relying on and worry about White people.

Not just the men. The women are caping for every "black cause" under the sun and have embedded themselves within AA culture. These xoolo act like our struggles as a people are completely the same as those of AA people. They spread this feminist propaganda, promote liberalism, and constantly whine about the ubiquitous "patriarchy" as the source of all evil.