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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:34 pm

Allahow sharafta nagu celi. This is from sahal80's links:
The Somali planes were in a batch upgraded to F.76 and T.77 standard, which incorporated a lot of the advances of the FGA.9. But while the FGA.9 was essentially a ground-attack aircraft, these late 60s updates for export were more multi-role. Most seemed equipped to carry Sidewinder AAMs. Anyway, the F.76s and T77s first went to Abu Dhabi. In 1975, the survivors were passed to Jordan.

Jordan's Air Force had been badly mauled in the 1973 Yom Kippur war. But it seems the Jordanians needed more modern equipment and passed all their Hunters, including the Abu Dhabi examples, to the Sultan of Oman, who already had Hunters in service.

This is where it gets murky. Oman gave Somalia several Hunters in 1983. It is claimed these were the survivors of the original Abu Dhabi F.76s and T.77s but who knows. After all these years and users, there would have been little commonality among the F.76s.
Sahal80 is showing off that some planes, not even 2nd hand, but 3rd/4th hand planes that came from Abu Dhabi==>Jordan==>Oman==>Somalia were given to us by generous Arabs. Xasbunallah wa ni3mal wakeel.

Look at the situation of Khartoum, Baghdad, Beirut, Cairo, Damascus, Tripoli. Can you tell me what the Arabs can do? If you are only interested in a couple million dollars handouts for DJ to bribe local politicians then yes ofcourse the Arabs can do that. All you have to do is go to Gulf countries and request that, that's no problem. The Arabs cannot build Somalia nor do they care to build it. This is a matter for Somalis to do and if they can't do it then it's finished.

As of now, Saudia Arabia invests more money in Ethiopia than they do in Somalia.

Erdogan just got into the Somali game in 2011 and look at the effects Turkey has had on Somalia. And the Arabs have more money than Turkey. So who is more serious about Somalia? Turkey has exposed the rich Arabs for how little they do or care about Somalia. Even Iran could do a better job.

Do you know Sayid Mxmd Cabdille Xassan wrote a poem when one of his men asked him why he doesn't get help from the Arabs. Ask your parents what was the contents of that poem.

Axmad Gurey was getting his weapons and support from the Ottomans.

Arabs do not have the ability/interest or technical expertise to help develop Somalia. Don't wait on that. Let's have more ambition than to depend on them.

If the Arabs cared to develop Arab capitals then you wouldn't see Cairo looking the way it is. Now that Iraq is finished, Cairo has the most potential in the Sunni Arab world and it's clear that the Arab countries are not investing billions of dollars in Egyptian industry, education, agriculture.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby original dervish » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:39 pm

I've long noticed that Sahal equates support for his faction with support for Somalia.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:12 pm

Everything he says is either trying to play one group off of another....only to outsmart other Somali politicians.

He thinks the whole political game is getting political power in order to go to foreign capitals and get some money or assistance.

He has never talked about how we can get Somalis out of becoming global beggars and trying to improve ourselves.

We should be studying how other nations did it and trying to implement it ourselves. Political power just to get control of International Aid is no honor.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby original dervish » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:18 pm

To be fair....all Somali politicians have this nigga on the plantation mentality.
Everyone wants to serve the master in the big house.....that's their ambition.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:32 pm

Yeah but that shouldn't be the way it is. Most politicians in the world have some of that to certain degrees, but in Somalia it seems like it is 100% of what a politician is expected to do.

This is not a normal situation.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby sahal80 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:00 am

Reer mudug iyo madax adeeg!

Once I was helping this new mudug guy to find a lawyer, probably he heard some thing about the lawyer though he never been there-hes only his first week in the uk!-

And instead of listening to me on our way to there he started telling me about the firm and that it was established in the secod world war for the jewish bla bla bla!

Now this guy tells me about some thing I posted for him!!

What a little horizoned small brain creature!

If I post a link does that mean I agree what they r saying or my point is to show the pics?

The same links r saying its a photoshop not real pics!

These hunters were from oman and oman got it directly from king hussein of jordan during its war against the communist mahara front in the 70s

Their number was 30

A brother helping a brother in war times!

You two need to stop following me every where

Take your madax xanoun somewhere else!

People who don't shyt about the arab world are giving their fatwa in subjects they totally ignore!!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhofar_Rebellion

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby sahal80 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:19 am

Oman gave us bc mingistu was arming mahara not bc they were old stuff lol

King hussein was married british woman, a dauther of a general

In these days, him and shaah of iran were allied with the west and the gulf countries

Somalia has switched to this camp after the ogaden war so oman was a regional ally against south yemen and ethiopia

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby sahal80 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:37 am

Edit:daughter

Why british armed king hussien?

Its another story you need to do your own research!!

Let me give you some clue: start with abdinasir vs hussein!

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby LiquidHYDROGEN » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:45 am

Sahal, I don't think anyone here arguing with you comes from Mudug. I come from the Hawd, Gedoboy comes from...well Gedo and OD is most likely from Sool. What is this Mudug nonsense you keep repeating?

Give up Sahal, everyone knows your game. It's the same game Mjs were playing when A Yusuf brought xabshis into the Capital, the same game HG/Abgaal were playing when Sheikh Sharif gave up his cumaamad for a suit and it's the same game the next tribal faction will play when the next incompetent condom assumes "power".

HSM and his ilk are beggars just like all the past, present and future Somali leaders and will sell his own ayeeyo for a buskud and some shaah - never mind the natural resources of Somalis. Who are you fooling? Name one posiive thing that has happened in his tenure, just one.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby sahal80 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:13 am

Sahal, I don't think anyone here arguing with you comes from Mudug. I come from the Hawd, Gedoboy comes from...well Gedo and OD is most likely from Sool. What is this Mudug nonsense you keep repeating?

Give up Sahal, everyone knows your game. It's the same game Mjs were playing when A Yusuf brought xabshis into the Capital, the same game HG/Abgaal were playing when Sheikh Sharif gave up his cumaamad for a suit and it's the same game the next tribal faction will play when the next incompetent condom assumes "power".

HSM and his ilk are beggars just like all the past, present and future Somali leaders and will sell his own ayeeyo for a buskud and some shaah - never mind the natural resources of Somalis. Who are you fooling? Name one posiive thing that has happened in his tenure, just one.
didn't I said you guys r suffering from cultural illiteracy?

You should be silence about such topic like mudug!

Mudug is where the gedoboy hails from and this gedo stuff was made from parties of jubada hoose like baardheere and baydho

The map of today was made by siyad barre and its based on clan divisions!

Before this there were only regions: reer mudug, reer bari, reer nord, reer koonfur galbeed, reer hiiraan, reer banadir
http://www.hiiraan.org/images/2013/Mar/ ... e_1969.jpg

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:43 am

So if Oman gave Somalia some 2nd hand jets because we were fighting the person who was assisting their enemy does that mean they did it for us or them? Any help is welcome, but we need major players who know how to build infrastructure for Somalis.

You are making it sound like the Arabs have done more for us than anybody else.

Turkey is helping Somalia during periods of peace, not just in times of war and with weapons.

China built some infrastructure in Somalia in the past:
Since 1963, China has provided Somalia with various kinds of economic assistance. The main projects China has accomplished in Somalia are: National Theatre, the Hargeisa water supply project, Somalia Cigarette Manufactory, Somalia Banadir Hospital, Somalia Stadium, road between Beled Weyne and Burao, Barrouen Farm, Fanole Farm and a hydro-power station, etc.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:06 am

marka doesn't that map mean I'm from Jubaland? :D

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby original dervish » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:41 pm

Why does he get so angry when anyone challenges his "analysis? :)

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:33 pm

He's calling me Reer Mudug even though there's no base for it. My family has been in Gedo for generations. I guess it's like qabiil you are stuck with it forever.

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Re: soma OIL&GAS indicates that somalia has oil

Postby Gedo_Boy » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:11 pm

Wasn't sahal80 saying he was so optimistic that the Gulf Arabs would help Somalia develop it's oil resources?

And why would they do that when they are already undercutting the existing competition and trying to force other people out of the market in order to keep their market share...especially in Asia where the most growth and demand for energy is.

If China started looking for oil in Somalia the Saudis would give them a discount to stop looking.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... record-low


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