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How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:57 am

Sageman’s viewpoint should not really surprise us. Writing in his 2011 book The Black Banners: the Inside Story of 9/11 and the War Against al-Qaeda, the Lebanese-American former FBI agent Ali H Soufan, who led the bureau’s pre-9/11 investigation into al-Qaeda, observed: “When I first began interrogating al-Qaeda members, I found that while they could quote Bin Laden’s sayings by heart, I knew far more of the Quran than they did – and in fact some barely knew classical Arabic, the language of both the hadith and the Quran. An understanding of their thought process and the limits of their knowledge enabled me and my colleagues to use their claimed piousness against them.”

Three years earlier, in 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5’s behavioural science unit, was obtained by the Guardian. It revealed: “Far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The MI5 analysts noted the disproportionate number of converts and the high propensity for “drug-taking, drinking alcohol and visiting prostitutes”. The newspaper claimed they concluded, “A well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation.”

As I have pointed out on these pages before, Mohammed Ahmed and Yusuf Sarwar, the two young British Muslim men from Birmingham who were convicted on terrorism charges in 2014 after travelling to fight in Syria, bought copies of Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies from Amazon prior to their departure. Religious novices, indeed.

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby COOL-MAN » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:03 pm

Fah,

Is Mehdi hassan Shia?

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby SaciidAyanleh » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:05 pm

This is all old news.

Of course the majority of terrorist recruits are religious novices. the majority of religious people are religious novices :Shrug:

Now, what would be more interesting is the faith background of IS/Al Qaeda funders, but those folks will never be interrogated.

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby Thuganomics » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:12 pm

Fah,

Is Mehdi hassan Shia?
I was gonna ask this lol
His name sounds shia innit

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby COOL-MAN » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:14 pm

I follow him on his Facebook page bro. I think I read someone calling him Shia somewhere but am not quite sure.

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby FAH1223 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:17 pm

I follow him on his Facebook page bro. I think I read someone calling him Shia somewhere but am not quite sure.
He's Pakistani so it's entirely possible

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby Thuganomics » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:18 pm

I follow him on his Facebook page bro. I think I read someone calling him Shia somewhere but am not quite sure.
Have you watched that talk he did in The Oxford University lecture hall

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby COOL-MAN » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:29 pm

I follow him on his Facebook page bro. I think I read someone calling him Shia somewhere but am not quite sure.
Have you watched that talk he did in The Oxford University lecture hall

I did. That was what propelled him to the limelight .

Fah,

If he is a paki, I don't think he is Shia.

I thought he was Iranian of something similar.

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby SummerRain » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:30 pm

Mehdi is Shia.
I do find his views balanced.

He mentioned it in an interview with Richard Dawkins.

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby AbdiJohnson » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:34 pm

He is Ahmadi

I am,

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby SolidCamel » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:36 pm

He is Shia. He is a smart dude

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby eliteSomali » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:43 pm

He's shia.

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:45 pm

i know he is a shia, but he speaks for all muslims, i love his head to head program on aljazeera

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby COOL-MAN » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:47 pm

Ok

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Re: How Islamic is Islamic State?

Postby Thuganomics » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:51 pm

He's a cool guy


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