Was this guy Hamish Wilson SNM mujaahid ?

SayyidUmar · Postby **SayyidUmar** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:09 pm

lancer this is about somaliland not religion.

Lancer · Postby **Lancer** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:09 pm

i'm somalilander, & this somaliland section. so if want to discuss current world poltics go to general section or politics.

I don't care if you are a Somalilander or not, what I said was relevant to Somaliland.
Don't quote me next time if you don't want me to respond back.

xiimaaya · Postby **xiimaaya** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:13 pm

Just when you think you've heard it all......this comes up.
There is no doubt...that if it wasn't for the darwiish..... these people would be Christians today.

Djiboutian · Postby **Djiboutian** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:13 pm

I have seen this clip where some pro faqash elements criticising him to be called mujaahid because of his looks although I am not sure about his religion. of course any one who contributed SNM is mujahid to me regardless of his religion. my question is was he actually contributed any thing to SNM ? the reporter said he recorded many SNM videos. Please share if you can get any of his works. its good to know any one who supported us during the halgan or the first somaliland nation building years.

Ask boramanews they are the one who is calling him "Mujahid"

abdikarim86 · Postby **abdikarim86** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:14 pm

what have i exaggerated or when was i being irrational. the title of the thread is asking if a cadaan guy was a muj. simple answer is no.

you see of us in the Somaliland community have deep-rooted connection with snm and its heritage. whilst others like youself are interested in their heritage from Djibouti and Jigjigga.

That is all you had say ....laakin this whole business of "allah cadaankii baynu futada ka leefaynaa" was not needed.
A measured response to an otherwise silly thread is the route you should have taken.

Mida kale ...ayaa ku yidhi I do not have a connection to SNM?
out of the thousands of posts I've made here I've mentioned
Djibouti and/or Jigjiga in a few cases ....If if I had mentioned it more
often, you cannot make the assumption that somehow SNM is not important to me.

You are not the gate-keeper of SNM iyo its legacy ee min fadlik stop acting
as if you are

abdikarim86 · Postby **abdikarim86** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:15 pm

Tbh I do not believe there is such a thing as an Islamic state.
I would argue that the concept of a state (in the modern post 1648 peace of westphalia sense) is alien to Muslim tradition.
The Khilaafa is not in any way close to the lunatics running around Syria and Ciraaq calling themselves IS.
That being said ...we are not in the past, nor can such a system be brought back (certainly not in our lifetimes).

I suppose the only reason I asked you the question is I take issue with your statement that the Tawheed on our flag is merely
symbolic, I do not believe this is the case and should be the case. And that recognising and acknowledging this, does not mean
we are akin to the lunatics running around the Middle East.

We are Muslims and that means Religion will always play a role in our private lives and the public sphere of our home country.
however which way we rule ourselves, Religion should and inshallah will remain as the guiding principle of our country.
Exactly you made my point very clear here. This is what I meant about us not being an Islamic State.

I see ...it seems I may have misunderstood what you were saying.

My apologies

Lancer · Postby **Lancer** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:19 pm

^No problem, I should have made myself more clear.

AbdiJohnson · Postby **AbdiJohnson** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:21 pm

Look at the usual people who accuse me of being an Uncle Tom bootyclap for a Welshman

I am,

Abdi "This is so hilarious" Johnson

SayyidUmar · Postby **SayyidUmar** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:30 pm

abdikareem, this thread smells of "cadaanka baynu futada ka leefaynaa" out of all the snm & it's history we could made a thread about the figures & heros of the struggle, we made one in bold writing about muj. cadaanka. Isaaqa like to admire shishiyaha. yes we all share the same snm history, but thats not the point I'm making. simple look at the heat that this thread is getting & typical stereotyping of noble Isaaq, surely we don't what our snm history to be portrayed & distorted the same way as darwiish era.

original dervish · Postby **original dervish** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:32 pm

You know you've had a bad day on snet when Abdi Johnson call you a coconut. :pac:

All iidoor form an orderly queue to receive your Ls.

Djiboutian · Postby **Djiboutian** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:35 pm

Those arguing against giving this man the title of mujahid because he's a gaal don't seem to realize that the SNM struggle against Siyads forces wasn't a jihad in the religious sense of the term. It was a jihad stricly in the linguistic sense, meaning 'to struggle against', making snm members mujahids since they 'struggled/fought'. So if a gaal did indeed take part in the SNM mission during the eighties and early nineties, then he should be called a mujahid, just like how a secular minded isaaq would be given the title.

As for those who will counter that it was indeed a true jihad in the religious sense of the word because Siyaad Barre was a socialist gaal...well to them i'll say that they and everyone else knows that that's not the reason the SNM fought against the man and his regime.

Defending oneself, property, honor and deen is Jihad and this is what SNM stands for.

For your information, SNM was an Islamic movement. You and others may disagree with me but I can prove you if you are interested but not here. I'll post a thread about it at the right time.

P.S. If non believer defend himself/herself, honor or property that won't make him Mujahid. Even if he sided with Muslims against infidels. Waxa halgankii doobi " Sawiiri" jiray rag Somalilanders ah. You can hear them talking while recording.

abdikarim86 · Postby **abdikarim86** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:39 pm

this thread smells of "cadaanka baynu futada ka leefaynaa" out of all the snm & it's history we could made a thread about the figures & heros of the struggle. Isaaqa like to admire shishiyaha.
yes we all share the same snm history, but some more than others. simple those that lost the most and put the most works they shine more. why do you think snm birthday is 17 oct 1983, malinta shuhaadada snm-ta.

Countless threads have been made in this section about all the SNM heros, I believe you are new.
You only need to check the archives to see the number of threads dedicated to the likes of Mujaahid Lixle
and Maalinta Shuhaadada

This thread was started in reaction to a report by Boramanews. It seems the Yusuf fella was
interested in our opinion on this matter (because a cadaan mujaahid is an odd concept

).
That is all I see it as.

djibsomali · Postby **djibsomali** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:39 pm

mujahiid lixlee badh banaan garanayn xalkaan markasee gaal laaso ordayaan!

look at me !!!
look at me !!
gaalkaan waa mujahiid
Walee waa mujahiid

dad idiil oo ilahay xishood kii kaa qaday,intay wax sheeq is leeyahiin ayay gaal mujahiid ku sheegayaan!

Somali been wee sheegtaa lakiin been maa mahmahdow!
waxaa layidhii niin hadal badaan hoyaday baan wassay waa laga heela

ciyalkii issaq hadal badii awadeed waa kuwaan mantaa laso shah yimid gaalkana waa mujahiid!!

SayyidUmar · Postby **SayyidUmar** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:41 pm

this thread smells of "cadaanka baynu futada ka leefaynaa" out of all the snm & it's history we could made a thread about the figures & heros of the struggle. Isaaqa like to admire shishiyaha.
yes we all share the same snm history, but some more than others. simple those that lost the most and put the most works they shine more. why do you think snm birthday is 17 oct 1983, malinta shuhaadada snm-ta.
Countless threads have been made in this section about all the SNM heros, I believe you are new.
You only need to check the archives to see the number of threads dedicated to the likes of Mujaahid Lixle
and Maalinta Shuhaadada

This thread was started in reaction to a report by Boramanews. It seems the Yusuf fella was
interested in our opinion on this matter (because a cadaan mujaahid is an odd concept ).
That is all I see it as.

it's plays right into our enemies hands

abdikarim86 · Postby **abdikarim86** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:46 pm

this thread smells of "cadaanka baynu futada ka leefaynaa" out of all the snm & it's history we could made a thread about the figures & heros of the struggle. Isaaqa like to admire shishiyaha.
yes we all share the same snm history, but some more than others. simple those that lost the most and put the most works they shine more. why do you think snm birthday is 17 oct 1983, malinta shuhaadada snm-ta.
Countless threads have been made in this section about all the SNM heros, I believe you are new.
You only need to check the archives to see the number of threads dedicated to the likes of Mujaahid Lixle
and Maalinta Shuhaadada

This thread was started in reaction to a report by Boramanews. It seems the Yusuf fella was
interested in our opinion on this matter (because a cadaan mujaahid is an odd concept ).
That is all I see it as.

it's plays right into our enemies hands.

I think you need to remember the "enemies" will always have a problem with us.
It does not matter to them whether we "admire" shisheeyaha and put them on a pedestal or not.

You should not care what people still bitter over the fall of Siyaad Barre think or feel.

That being said ...I do agree with you that those who died for SL's freedom
should always be remembered.

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