Hiiraan needs intervention

[sahal80]

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[Rambie]

no wonder why all these unionist isaaq are worried about hiiraan kkkkkkkk

good your realizing how sl was a joke

welcome back lost tribe!

as a pan somali i support your somaliwan feelings!

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carmaan

been aa lago go cabey wallahi

deefoow ma qabsan xataa waa lagogola jiraa. dhufeesyo sanad ka hor qodoteen aa gasheen

chance aaba siiseen militiada hawadle hada waa lago hareerasanyahay

kabhanleey waa lomisay since 2013

marka beenta iska dhaaf xoog waxba koma qaadid kartid

nabada qaata

surre waxee dan ogu jirtaa inee hawadle la heshiiyaan

dolada oma fiicna faragalinteeda

hadii ee hawadle la hishiiyaan toolooyinkooda waa looga bixi si ixtiraam leh, daaqa iyo dhulka aa naga dhexeeyo

hadii fara galin dhacdo

hawadle waxee ko dhaarteen in midkaste oo faqi ah kun la degto markee soo noqdaan!!

hadhoowna qof ma fiirin kartid!

hubka la ama ogplaanaayo waa faro galin dolada hadeey dhacdo!

Look, don't get me wrong
I don't consider myself Dir
But they are closer to us than Hawiya, Darood or
D&M

Lay down the bottle and
move on Mr. round head Caucasian

[Rambie]

D/P

[sahal80]

Kkkkk your a confused dir!

Its funny that your dir brother djibouti is not recognizing you kkkk

You can take surre and put the in your waqooyi galbeed state

Let warsangale and dhulbahante join PL

End of story

Don't lose 50 percent of your budget on other clans

Welcome back to the republic of beelaha somaliyeed!

[Rambie]

Kkkkk your a confused dir!

Its funny that your dir brother djibouti is not recognizing you kkkk

You can take surre and put the in your waqooyi galbeed state

Let warsangale and dhulbahante join PL

End of story

Don't lose 50 percent of your budget on other clans

Welcome back to the republic of beelaha somaliyeed!

Lol

I know what you playing caucasian hybrid Sahal

Go and believe the 4.5 formula if you want I don't have to
explain myself to a brain dead Hutu who suffers from identity crises
and actually believes he's an european.

[zumaale]

no wonder why all these unionist isaaqs are worried about hiiraan kkkkkkkk

good your realizing how sl was a joke

welcome back lost tribe!

as a pan somali i support your somaliwan feelings!

http://markacadey.com/archives/25324


carmaan

been aa lago go cabey wallahi

deefoow ma qabsan xataa waa lagogola jiraa. dhufeesyo sanad ka hor qodoteen aa gasheen

chance aaba siiseen militiada hawadle hada waa lago hareerasanyahay

kabhanleey waa lomisay since 2013

marka beenta iska dhaaf xoog waxba koma qaadid kartid

nabada qaata

surre waxee dan ogu jirtaa inee hawadle la heshiiyaan

dolada oma fiicna faragalinteeda

hadii ee hawadle la hishiiyaan toolooyinkooda waa looga bixi si ixtiraam leh, daaqa iyo dhulka aa naga dhexeeyo

hadii fara galin dhacdo

hawadle waxee ko dhaarteen in midkaste oo faqi ah kun la degto markee soo noqdaan!!

hadhoowna qof ma fiirin kartid!

hubka la ama ogplaanaayo waa faro galin dolada hadeey dhacdo!

Sahal, do you even think before typing? How the fuck can you talk of peace when your people are attacking villages that belong to another clan. Peace can only come about if everyone remains where they are. Ma anaga dhulkina dagal ku hayno? Our aim is not to return civilians until heeshis dhacdo. If there is no heeshis, dagal wa no dhaxeyo, that is why we are not moving beyond Deefow yet as the aim is to have a base so as to make you guys realise xoog wax kuma heeleysin, dhulkas wuxu ahanaya goob dagal until you guys stop your dhulmi.

Furthermore, raaga hada jooga waxay kaso jeedan hal jilib hoose, dagalkan hadu si soocdo maxad moodhe iney Surre kale la waynayo, ciidaanka hada joogo Hiiraan diyaar wey uyihin geeri, waxa kale diyar eh boqolal wiil kaale ow bedelayo. Cid cid kale xoog usheegani kaaro majirto. Qabsada Deefow, dagalkan ma dhamanayo, wuxu soconi doono hadu hal wiil Surre nolyahay. Heeshis hadi dab nika tahay, maxad weerar so qadeysan? Maad umada Islamka dhulkoda u dhaftan? Wixi dhace, wu dhace laakin nabad marki laka hadlayo waxan muhim eh ini qoofkasto meeshisa ku ekaado.

Sahal, Isaaq aman si, Cuqdada u qaabtid waa obsessive, dagalkan ma huurinayan mana ku jiiran. Waxad is heeysatan waa jilib hoose Surre.

[sahal80]

no wonder why all these unionist isaaqs are worried about hiiraan kkkkkkkk

good your realizing how sl was a joke

welcome back lost tribe!

as a pan somali i support your somaliwan feelings!

http://markacadey.com/archives/25324


carmaan

been aa lago go cabey wallahi

deefoow ma qabsan xataa waa lagogola jiraa. dhufeesyo sanad ka hor qodoteen aa gasheen

chance aaba siiseen militiada hawadle hada waa lago hareerasanyahay

kabhanleey waa lomisay since 2013

marka beenta iska dhaaf xoog waxba koma qaadid kartid

nabada qaata

surre waxee dan ogu jirtaa inee hawadle la heshiiyaan

dolada oma fiicna faragalinteeda

hadii ee hawadle la hishiiyaan toolooyinkooda waa looga bixi si ixtiraam leh, daaqa iyo dhulka aa naga dhexeeyo

hadii fara galin dhacdo

hawadle waxee ko dhaarteen in midkaste oo faqi ah kun la degto markee soo noqdaan!!

hadhoowna qof ma fiirin kartid!

hubka la ama ogplaanaayo waa faro galin dolada hadeey dhacdo!

Sahal, do you even think before typing? How the fuck can you talk of peace when your people are attacking villages that belong to another clan. Peace can only come about if everyone remains where they are. Ma anaga dhulkina dagal ku hayno? Our aim is not to return civilians until heeshis dhacdo. If there is no heeshis, dagal wa no dhaxeyo, that is why we are not moving beyond Deefow yet as the aim is to have a base so as to make you guys realise xoog wax kuma heeleysin, dhulkas wuxu ahanaya goob dagal until you guys stop your dhulmi.

Furthermore, raaga hada jooga waxay kaso jeedan hal jilib hoose, dagalkan hadu si soocdo maxad moodhe iney Surre kale la waynayo, ciidaanka hada joogo Hiiraan diyaar wey uyihin geeri, waxa kale diyar eh boqolal wiil kaale ow bedelayo. Cid cid kale xoog usheegani kaaro majirto. Qabsada Deefow, dagalkan ma dhamanayo, wuxu soconi doono hadu hal wiil Surre nolyahay. Heeshis hadi dab nika tahay, maxad weerar so qadeysan? Maad umada Islamka dhulkoda u dhaftan? Wixi dhace, wu dhace laakin nabad marki laka hadlayo waxan muhim eh ini qoofkasto meeshisa ku ekaado.

Sahal, Isaaq aman si, Cuqdada u qaabtid waa obsessive, dagalkan ma huurinayan mana ku jiiran. Waxad is heeysatan waa jilib hoose Surre.

lies or either your clueless of the situation!

If hawadle were going to attack them they wouldn't have welcomed them at the first place!


The war was started by your folks

It started when the faqis targeted our nomads telling them not not to come near banka with their herds

Then they targeted our farmers

This has caused a few skirmish

Lastly, at one night, they attacked a whole village called jeereey and killed many unarmed people, women and men

So who started targeting the lonely nomads? YOU

Who started attacking the villages? YOU

Why then this febricated calaacal after your villages have been attacked?

Doesn't the quran state wajazaau sayi-atin isyi atun mithloha!

From what I heard from many people, there were no problems with the local dir but they have been tashwiished by a non hiiraanian dir who were business men, these folks have told them to secure much farming land for business and sell them to other businessmen from other tribes and they even made some contracts with with these men

On the cost of the native nomads and farmers?

Wallee wadaadkii waa kibrey!


Treating this way to the people who have been nice to you?

Deefow is a war zone, despite my full knowledge of hawadle 60 year old man from reer madar of reer ugaas who was born in there, we have no attention to re-take it

Once direct peace was reached, our militia will evacuate them and our clan will contribute to rebuild it but if the things reach intervention from he govt we weill settle them to make you tiny even if you run it!

Lastly, I don't think the whole southren dir can over power hawadle who has more populated towns then them lol

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

caadi iska dhiga

[zumaale]

If hawadle were going to attack them they wouldn't have welcomed them at the first place!


The war was started by your folks

It started when the faqis targeted our nomads telling them not not to come near banka with their herds

Then they targeted our farmers

This has caused a vew skirmish

Lastly, at one night, they attacked a whole village called jeereey and killed many unarmed people, women and men

So who started targeting the lonely nomads? YOU

Who started attacking the villages? YOU

Why then this febricated calaacal after your villages have been attacked?

Doesn't the quran state wajazaau sayi-atin isyi atun mithloha!

From what I heard from many people, there were no problems with the local dir but they have been tashwiished by a non hiiraanian dir who were business men, these folks have told them to secure much farming land for business and sell them to other businessmen from other tribes and they even made some contracts with with these men

On the cost of the native nomads and farmers?

Wallee wadaadkii waa kibrey!


Treating this way to the people who have been nice to you?

Deefow is a war zone, despite my full knowledge of hawadle 60 year old man from reer madar of reer ugaas who was born in there, we have no attention to re-take it

Once direct peace was reached, our militia will evacuate them and our clan will contribute to rebuild it but if the things reach intervention from he govt we weill settle them to make you tiny even if you run it!

Lastly, I don't think the whole southren dir can over power hawadle who has more populated towns then them lol

Sahal, both of us can make arguments for our respective clans but as things stand, you guys are waging war on our villages. When people are serious about peace, their actions reflect it and a goodwill gesture would be for everybody to remain in their territories and talk without any bad blood. Bro, we have both lost more than 200 young men combined, dagalkan hadi si soocdo muxu taraya? Waa si sooco, so sooco.

Sahal, we have no plans to relocate all Surre to Hiiraan so no need to be paranoid. If that was the case and we were financially supported by Northerners as you guys claim, the situation would be worse than it is now. You are knowledgeable about clans and am sure you are aware that we are dispersed but numerous.

[original dervish]

Where is the Govt in all this?

[sahal80]

Zumaale

There r facts and I'm trying to stick with them

It doesn't mean I support my clan

I see the two faqis and their next door subclans of hawadle causing the problem over the bank and its normal clan clashes

I stated the local dir claiming the common land

In such cases govt should be in the middle but we have no strong govt and we r busy on shabaab

Maamulka has tried to reconcile them many times through the elders but the dir r sticking with their position

I have seen similar cases in waqooyi within one clan and the authorities in there have banned from all of them demarking the grass land

Its common in every where

First attack on villages as a direct war was launched by the dir, ask the people who know this, that place is called jeereey, its next to kabhanleey

So how stating the facts support my clan?

Yes my clan have committed crimes but most of them were retaliation

Unlike you all the xoolo dhaqato who r east target r from my clan

Just this week your folks killed two of them on their way to deefow

These two men will cause big war

So let us talk about the root of the evil instead of blaming the stronger.

[zumaale]

Sahal, Jeerey was attacked after you guys burned Kabxanley. Secondly, those Jeerey villagers are not even reer Beledweyne, they are Cali Madaxweyne brought in to settle on the land between Kabxanley and Deefow which is legally owned by the Faqis and if you know your facts, you would know the Faqis themselves went to war with each other over how to demarcate it. You expect them to sit back while people are planted on their farmland. Our land was registered with the Government before the war started so there is no debate as to ownership of it but tell me why are you guys bothering with a few Surres who stayed behind during the Saayid wars and live on a small stretch of fertile riverside land?

To each his own son, you are the top dogs in Hiiraan, no doubt but you do not know us Surres. As long as one man remains and funds are there we will continue fighting, however, many times land changes hands.

[Khalid Ali]

Sahal u are losing your cool as a political Analysts u are now caught up in between a Xawaadle Sure conflict , you should at all cost keep your neutrality

[original dervish]

How can he.....his own kith & kin were murdered on the road to Defow?

[sahal80]

Where is the Govt in all this?

I think you need to understand first the situation. dirta hiiraan r kinda sheekhal, they live in the middle of us, we r infront of them, east of them and north of them, the westside is found the river and beyond it r found gugundhabe

Traditionally, except my subclan who r ahmadiya, rest of hawadle r salixiya, there's the religious connections between these faqis and us also reerow hassan

Its the reason why daraawiishta came to hiiraan for religious afilliation as italians arrived buloburde, thses people were calling to resist them

Gugundhabe r ahmadiya except jijeele who r qadiriya and they had garre and tunni sheekhs, their center was baraawe and daafeed

That why they didn't settle with them

Also gugundhabe claim who settles with them

Today one religious subclan of tunni and garre r so confused and think of being gardheer/gugundhabe due to this religious relationship with gugundhabe


Now these dir people have gotten bigger among us and they have their own villages

They use to be very respected but now they turned to business people and link ethiopia to hiiraan and mudug

Ok what's the problem?

Each year the river floods and makes big land that's green wich we call it banka

Some hawadle nomads would take their herds to there, others have been farming in there

After shabaab banned the foreing aid, NGO have arrived there encouraging the nomads to do more farming so they can puy from them and give it to the poor people

Bc of the too much cash, many hawadle nomads in there have turned to farmers, this has upset the dir business men who wanted only them to benefit from this business and they started targetting them

Caused a retaliation and then a big clan wars

How can you solve this issue then?

The govt has been going to there and brought them under the trees to reach an agreement

My clan has no conditions while dir are still claiming the land

This land is not the villages rather the farm lands

Their villages being occupied is due to the war bc it was their bases and once an agreement was reached hawadle will fully avacuate them

Govt can't involve until two of them accept peace so it keeps calling them for meetings.