The Somali Language Has Over 300 Loan Words From Arabic ..

[Rooble90]

Words like:

Caadi
Akri
Weji
Sharax
Niyad
Saaxiib
Qalbi
Sixir
Siyaaro
Waqti
Wasaq
Qimee
Kursi
Sariir
Xukun
Tartiib
Ansixi
Fasahaad
Farxi
Khilaaf
Raaxayso
Amar
Casho
Qado
Quraac
Isticmaar
Oofi




And Many Many More ....

[Itrah]

Af Maay still preserved the ancient Somali synonyms for many of these.

[Rooble90]

Af Maay still preserved the ancient Somali synonyms for many of these.

Do u speak af May

[Rooble90]

Af Maay still preserved the ancient Somali synonyms for many of these.

How do you say :

Breakfast
Dinner
Lunch
Believe
Border
Hope

In af may may ?

[Itrah]

Af Maay still preserved the ancient Somali synonyms for many of these.

Do u speak af May

No, why would I. I am not from Bay-Bakool. I just read that most of the Arabic loans in Somali are not found in Af-Maay.

[Rooble90]

Af Maay still preserved the ancient Somali synonyms for many of these.

Do u speak af May

No, why would I. I am not from Bay-Bakool. I just read that most of the Arabic loans in Somali are not found in Af-Maay.

Yes there are .. I just asked my eedo ..

[Itrah]

^^ To a far smaller degree. My dad speaks fluent Af-Maay. So, I know.

[sahal80]

These r simple religious words but most people wrongly think that there's a lot of arabic loan words in the somali language when most of them r an afro-asiatic vocabularies

Example: xir, fur, riix, jiid, carar, orod, habar, gabar, dhabar, soco, bax, shub, etc. These words were not borrowed from the arabic language

The old somali scholars to affirm that the somali language has an arabic root or that its a lost arabic dialect but their theory have been rubbished by the researchers of the new generation bc the same words are found in other cushitic and hamitic dialects such as the afar and beja languages


You can't notice this until you learn the structure and the root of the arabic words

For example the arabic language is called
لغة الضاد this means that letter is exclusive to arabic

The somali letter d becomes in arabic الضاد and some times dh

The arabic letter T becomes in somali d like salaada, qasim salaad,

The arabic letter M becomes in somali N like islaan/islam, muslin/muslim

So let us give some examples for the somali letter d

The tree in somali is called geed so how can you find this in arabic along side with the word shajara for tree

The somali letter d becomes in arabic الضاد and some times dh

Now الضاد
http://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-ar/%D ... %B6%D8%A9/

Letter dh
http://www.almaany.com/ar/dict/ar-ar/%D ... %8A%D8%B7/

In arabic gaydh takes the plural form; geedo, trees

It can be a plain

In the quran, It means also duurka, meel aad xaajadaada ko soo godatid

It can be a garden
الغوطة

غوطة دمشق

[sahal80]

Most of the somali vocabularies r not native to somalis rather they have oromo origin due to them colonizing the whole horn

I think somalis had a pure hamitic dialect like the beja dialect wich is closer to the berber, coptic and the semitic languages bc culturaly and phonotypically they r much closer to afar and beja

Afar, saho and beja have splitted long ages ago and I think somalis have splitted from them before that era and were part of them as the ancient ta-Seti tribe

Oromo are a nilo-hamitic tribe aka the elongated africans, originally from sudan them and massai, tutsi, samburu who r related to dinka and nuer that why they r taller than the rest of africans

For example the somali is closer to afar than oromo but the afar is closer to somali than oromo and the beja is closer to afar than somali

The words we share with only oromo has omitic origin

Words we share mostly with oromo 40%, with only afar 20% percent, with beja and coptic 15 percent, rest are borrowed from arabic, persia and the indian languages.


Beja is the purest hamtic dialect and is called the sanskrit of hamitic its not even considered a cushitic who's influenced by the omotic vacabulary


Berber is closer to beja than coptic.

[sahal80]

Linguistically, european languages r closer to somali than the bantu languages

Where do the blacks come from since they don't speak the language of nouh?

This is about culture not the races

Irish and celtic languages r influenced to some point by the hamitic languages

Aryan has proto-semitic roots

Nostratic languages

[Rooble90]

Linguistically, european languages r closer to somali than the bantu languages

Where do the blacks come from since they don't speak the language of nouh?

This is about culture not the races

Irish and celtic languages r influenced to some point by the hamitic languages

Aryan has proto-semitic roots

Nostratic languages

Sahal do u know where i can read about all that stuff u posted ???

[Thuganomics]

I'm suprised at CASHO though.Are you telling me there was no Somali word for supper so we had to borrow one

[Rooble90]

I'm suprised at CASHO though.Are you telling me there was no Somali word for supper so we had to borrow one

There is bro .. We just gotta ask the elders or ask a reer miyi person

[sahal80]

Linguistically, european languages r closer to somali than the bantu languages

Where do the blacks come from since they don't speak the language of nouh?

This is about culture not the races

Irish and celtic languages r influenced to some point by the hamitic languages

Aryan has proto-semitic roots

Nostratic languages

Sahal do u know where i can read about all that stuff u posted ???

The westren anthropologists have found out that their languages having a near eastren origin or a proto-semitic root, the language of our father noah

This relation much exists between the original aryan languages such as the turkic, and the indo-iranian languages or generally between the indo-europian languages and the semitic language

So since the semitic is an older branch than their languages and the hamitic is a sister of the semitic and belongs to the same age, they later suggested a broadly concept that includes the hamitic family

So basically the afro-asiatic family and the aryan languages have descended from one prehistoric language and r related to eachother on a high level

If I give you an example for the word chariot wich the modern word a car is drived from was invented in the near east by the assyrians

So the khawajat r claiming this word having a celtic origin while the semites r claiming of having a semitic origin since they invented it

They believe that it comes from the word siyara so if you replace the letter s with with the letter k it will be kiara

The funny thing is that the somali word for chariot is a roman and indian word so did we borrowed from them or its a native afro-asiatic word

In roman its gaari and urdu is a kaari

I don't think its an italian word since their word is carro

We say gaari, gaari dameer-dameer is afro-asiatic word just like xameer

http://dictionary.onepakistan.com.pk/ur ... eu=chariot


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariot

chariot Meaning | chariot Meaning in Urdu with Definition and Translation http://dictionary.onepakistan.com.pk/ur ... eu=chariot

http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://en ... PQEDKOYuPQ

Not every one is hamitic, some early hamitic waves had colonized the omotic of ethiopia and the nilo-saharan people of central africa such as the chadic hausa and fulani tribes who have been influenced by the berber language even genetically they r more mixed than us and carry some haplogroups like R

So their afro-asiatic vacabularies r not native to them

Anyways they r considered as divergent branches and their language is mixed like them

This hamitic stuff is a cultural term not a racial term


Wassalam.

[NoAngst]

[quote="sahal80"]Most of the somali vocabularies r not native to somalis rather they have oromo origin due to them colonizing the whole horn[/quote]


Actually, both Oromo and Somali descended from a common ancestor - hence the close similarities between the two. A lot of English words are from Latin by way of French when the Normans conquered England but English is not "native to French."