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On what?Geg
do u still like to save a lot of money?
On what?Geg
do u still like to save a lot of money?
huge difference. most of the educated nigerians in america are the sons and daughters of nigerians who were also educated. the african americans are the sons and daughters of people who were enslaved, had their history taken from them. then they lived another hundred years in an apartheid state where they were treated as second class citizens. from the moment they stepped on this continent they were brainwashed into believing they were an inferior people. african americans have made alot of mistakes, but its unfair to try and compare them to immigrants who arrived after the civil rights movement and come from a people with history and knowledge of self.Don't carry on arguments you can't finish. Nigerians are "Black" yet they're very successful and educated. So don't you dare blame "racism" for the behavior and shortcomings of AA's. It's no one's fault except theirs.I gave up guys. Carry on bashing AAs, and see where that lands you!
The same way how Somali failures and shortcomings are OUR FAULT and not the fault of the Habashis, Whites, Arabs or anyone else.
i wouldn't call it excusing bad behavior. its more about EXPLAINING why such behavior happens. you can't just sweep 200 years of enslavement and 100 years of being in a second-class citizen in an apartheid state and act like that had no affect on what is happening today.Gegiroor and SahanGalbeed and Advo are extremely condescending towards AA's. They will think of every excuse in the book to normalize their bad behavior.
But you'll never see me do this with Somalis. Our Somali people are deeply flawed, and our civil war and suffering is a direct result of our own bad behavior. We can't really blame anyone except ourselves. I as a proud Somali can admit that and acknowledge it. But as soon as someone says something negative about AA's, people here want to jump and defend this behavior, and make excuses on behalf of them.
You're not doing these people a favor by doing this
ETHNIC somalis are pastoral nomads. they herd animals and move from place to place feeding their livestock. they had nothing to with what the southern sultanates that were enganging in the arab slave trade. the southern coast cities like xamar were founded by persians, portguese, and other foreigners. they were the ones that imported in the bantu to work for them (as servants). the bantu then ran away and began settling in the shabelle and jubba regions going back to their agrarian roots and living beside the raxanweyn. some mixed with them. which is how we have clans like the elay who have bantu roots.There is Sophi lady to the rescue. Hurdaa laga soo kiciyey!
It is a news to me that Somalis participated the slavery of Bantu. I thought it was Arabs, and at that time the Southern tip-part of Somalia was under the Oman Sultanate!
P.S. Sophisticate, I agree with majority of your comment, but how much can we be obsessed with AAs, sister? Come'n sister, common sense is missing from these endless threads that Somali Ethno-centric patriots are promoting without any breaks. If we declare war on AAs, supposedly young Somali girls who we see doing niiko in cyperspace, and Somali Bantu, what is left? I think we need break from topics as you put it!
Kaafiye does have a point, when you victimize yourself you don't fight for yourself.
As for Somalis and how they self-identify themselves, its as Somali-American. I don't think Somalis have a problem with African Americans, we just don't see ourselves as the same or having a collective experience, language, culture and ethnicity etc. Better yet the African American has more in common with his European American compatriot. In fact, one could say that the relationship between both groups is soured by the fact that Somalis participated in the enslavement of Bantu people, by selling them to the Arabs. One could claim that global reparations would mean that Somalis that were complicit in this and would have to pay up, along with a heap load of other Africans, Asians and Europeans that also bought, sold and oppressed people of West-Central African decent. No one has their hands clean. Everyone knows if we go further back to Asians and Europeans being slaves, the world as we know it would be bankrupt, God knows they are greedy too and want their dues paid.In fact, we should be clear that we need to solve our own problems before we start calling out other ethnicities.
These topics need to stop.
everyone on earth will assimilate into a common culture in a couple of decades. the idea of groups staying separate ended with the invention of the internet.SonOfANomad does have a point though, a significant percentage of Somali Youth living in the US are emulating black (African American) culture. Other immigrant groups tend to be proud of their culture but not Somalis.
To be frank, if this doesn't stop, Somali Americans will assimilate into the AA community in a couple of decades.
Gegiroor and SahanGalbeed and Advo are extremely condescending towards AA's. They will think of every excuse in the book to normalize their bad behavior.
But you'll never see me do this with Somalis. Our Somali people are deeply flawed, and our civil war and suffering is a direct result of our own bad behavior. We can't really blame anyone except ourselves. I as a proud Somali can admit that and acknowledge it. But as soon as someone says something negative about AA's, people here want to jump and defend this behavior, and make excuses on behalf of them.
You're not doing these people a favor by doing this
Making excuses for their bad behavior?
If America truly is an apartheid state, and racism is endemic within the system and institutions, how were the Nigerians and other successful Africans able to circumvent this huge obstacle that's proven insurmountable for African Americans?
huge difference. most of the educated nigerians in america are the sons and daughters of nigerians who were also educated. the african americans are the sons and daughters of people who were enslaved, had their history taken from them. then they lived another hundred years in an apartheid state where they were treated as second class citizens. from the moment they stepped on this continent they were brainwashed into believing they were an inferior people. african americans have made alot of mistakes, but its unfair to try and compare them to immigrants who arrived after the civil rights movement and come from a people with history and knowledge of self.
A quick search on Wikipedia would give u this "Bantu slaves were made to work in plantations owned by Somalis along the Shebelle and Jubba rivers, harvesting lucrative cash crops such as grain and cotton." But I have a feeling u already know this and have an agenda.
ETHNIC somalis are pastoral nomads. they herd animals and move from place to place feeding their livestock. they had nothing to with what the southern sultanates that were enganging in the arab slave trade. the southern coast cities like xamar were founded by persians, portguese, and other foreigners. they were the ones that imported in the bantu to work for them (as servants). the bantu then ran away and began settling in the shabelle and jubba regions going back to their agrarian roots and living beside the raxanweyn. some mixed with them. which is how we have clans like the elay who have bantu roots.
It's both. Whites want to live among other whites with whom they have more in common with. The fact that African Americans bring crime and degeneracy to these neighbourhoods doesn't help the situation. If a certain neighbourhood in Hargaysa began filling up with Oromos, I'd move to a more Somali neighbourhood in the city. Call it racism if u want, but it's human nature to want to be with ur own even if u have no ill will towards those ur moving away from.
Quick question to all the honest people out there:
What do you think caused White Flight, impoverishing inner-cities in a way they still haven't recovered from? Was it because "Blacks brought crime" or was it because whites were racist?
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