Abdullahi Yusuf claims Marehan is a small clan lol

[GAMES]

LooL Mareexaan as big as HG? Right, sure.

[Murax]

Marehan is the most spread out clan.

Libaan Southern Ethiopia
Galbeed
Gedo
Jubbas
Galgaduud
NFD


One minute You'll hear about Marehan warring with Garre, etc. in Kenya, the next, HG in Galgaduud, the next Ogaden in Jubbas, Oromos in Southern Ethiopia, then MJ (Bicidyahan) in Galbeed. Most other clans are confined to specific regions.

[thegoodshepherd]

Marehan is the most spread out clan.

Libaan Southern Ethiopia
Galbeed
Gedo
Jubbas
Galgaduud
NFD


One minute You'll hear about Marehan warring with Garre, etc. in Kenya, the next, HG in Galgaduud, the next Ogaden in Jubbas, Oromos in Southern Ethiopia, then MJ (Bicidyahan) in Galbeed. Most other clans are confined to specific regions.

That is true to some extent, Marehan may not be as large as Ogaden, but they cover quite some territory. Compare to MJ who are found in one contiguous plot of land.

That spreading out also has bad effects in terms of political mobilization and overall cohesion.

[Xamud.]

Second largest Somali clan is Majerteen after Ogaden, hands down.

Farhanyare you are delusional if you think Cayr is bigger than a clan that settles in 4 gobols and 3 countries, Marexaan is larger than Haber Gidir. Haber Gidir sees a fraction of Marexaan that lives in Mudug and Galgaduud, the average Marexaan in Gedo and Hawd probably couldnt tell you where the various HG sub clans settle in Somalia.


When it really comes down to it though, the only sub clan that has really benefited from their numbers and used it to their advantage is Majerteen, and Ogaden more recently. inte kale are pretty much nothing better than the remaining medium sized\laangaab sub clans, the Issaq sub clans are closer to each other geographically and are therefor more cohesive hence why I have not included them, Garhajis, Haber Jeclo and HA are all large tribes though.

You guys can argue as much as you want, but I have practically been around the whole world and Ogaden and Majerteen are on another level when it comes to numbers, you can go to a remote village in Scotland or New zealand and find a group of Majerteens or Ogadens, everywhere you go you will come across these two clans, the others are more confined to certain countries and cities.

Nevertheless I rather have quality over quantity any day, quantity matters only when theres quality in play, if you lack quality you have nothing but more graves in your favour.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Refugee count doesn't represent population count. Some clans could have fled more than the others.

[Xamud.]

^^^
It's not about refugee count its about presence, if you have 10 sons and I have 2 sons, then its only logical that your 10 sons are more likely to be more visible than my 2 sons, I have two sons, one in America, one in UK, you have 10 sons spread all over the global, do the math. Darood, Issaq, Hawiye and Dir all fled, the only tribe that can be excused is D&G as they did not leave the countries in hords like the others.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

It's about population(sons), that is true, but it's also about refugee count as some have more refugees than others. Are you telling me all clans have the exact same percentage of refugees. You're saying if you have a bigger population, you're more likely to have a bigger count of refugees, but it's more than that, but it plays a factor.

The other factor is their geographical locations in the Somali peninsula that give them a upper hand to flee. That's why many southern clans decided to flee to other EAC countries.

It also comes down to which clans already settled in foreign countries before the civil war and lobbied to get their kinsmen abroad.

[Xamud.]

Well hey Rooble we can go on forever but I think we both know that I stated the truth in my first post. OG and MJ are on another level when it comes to numbers, they are like the China and India of Somalia compared to all other tribes, the ones that follow are merely USA and Indonesia and Brazil etc. Funny thing is they both belong to the same sub clan of Darood which makes it even more scandalous.

[zumaale]

Xamud with all due respect that difference between MJ and Gadabursi ain't that large. Forget even about Ciise.

Awbare Woreda has a population of approximately 350, 000 and Awdal has a population that exceeds 600, 000 according to the latest UN estimate for Somali provinces. Combined with their significant presence in Djibouti and Shinile Zone, they are not that far off a million.

As for Ciise, the combined population of their deegans in K5, Djibouti and Somaliland easily exceeds a million. They are not at the level of OG but it is an indisputed fact that they are the second largest subclan after them in K5.

When Isaaq are brought into the equation, all bets are off. It is hard to separate OG and Isaaq when it comes to population numbers. They are the China and India of Somali clans.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

More lands or refugees does not equate a larger population.

[zumaale]

Rooble

Apart from the Northern clans, the rest of the Dir did not really seek sanctuary in the West. The Gurgura, Gurre, Garire, Bajamal, Quranyoow are rarely found in the West for instance.

[Xamud.]

zumaale with all due respect sir, you are comparing apples to oranges, or in this case hills to mountains. Gudabirsi is not 1\2 of Majerteen and Cisse is not 1\2 of Ogaden, no pun intended to Gudabirsii and Cisse but they are not in the same league as MJ and Ogaden.

Majerteen covers 1\3 of Somalia, a good portion of Kilinka 5ad, parts of jubboyinka. Theres Majerteen in Bargaal and Majerteen in Gaalkacyo almost 700km apart from each other, and they live almost undisturbed with the exception of Leelkase and pockets of Carab Salax and Awrtable, and I will tell you this myself as a Leelkase, Leelkase probably numbers no more than 10% of Puntlands population, Awrtable and Carab Salaax combined are smaller than reer Farah Shirwac of Cumar Maxamud, Majerteen.

Ogaden covers most of Kilinka 5ad, large parts of NFD, Jubboyinka, they even live in Bay and Bakool. Theres Ogaden in Jigjiga and Ogaden in Garissa more than 1000km apart from each other, and they live almost undisturbed yacni they are connected.

Cisses population in K5 is not as large as it use to be, I would say the vast majority of Cisse probably lives in Djibouti now, they are only significant in Shinilee district of K5, Ogaden on the other hand is significant in every single one of the 9 provinces.

The UN estimations count for nothing, and if if they do, theres no a single Gudabirsii city in k5 that can compete with Geladi, Google earth is one click away, check it out.

Gudabirsi probably numbers as much as Mahamud Salebaan and I'm being generous here. There's a reason why they called large chunks of Somalia Majerteenia, theres also a reason why they called all of k5 Ogadenia.

Somalis hate to admit that their tribe is smaller than tribe A, I have kinsmen that will swear on that they are 1\2 of MJ You will probably be offended if I tell you that Dir is smaller than Kablalax Darood, we are sensitive when it comes to numbers, I don't know why, its not like we can help it.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Gobolka Liibaan

Big players: Degodia, Garre , Gurre (Dir) and Marexaan.

Garre is confederation , some are Quranyow Mahe Dir, some are Raxanweyn and some are Hawiye.

Bro, Garre split strictly into two parts, Tuf and Quranyow. Tuf are neither Hawiye or Raxanweyn. They are related to Galjeecel and Degoodis in belonging to Gardheere Samaale according to their oral history. Quranyow (religious nickname) Maxamed Xiniftere Maha Dir was a Wadaad who married Tufs daughter and that is how the two became alligned. Gunther Schlee did a lot of research on the Garres and his findings also support their oral abtirsi. Only in the South do they come under the Raxanweyn confederation due to their isolation from other Garres and assimilation into the Digil umbrella. The Garres in Mandheera district are mostly Quranyow whilst the ones in Moyaale/Marsabit are Tuf.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_8D ... ir&f=false

The following is an abtirsi submitted to James Dahl by a Digil Garre Quranyow individual.

http://www.abtirsi.com/forum/viewtopic. ... irsiLang=1

The majority clans in Liben Zone are Garre and Degoodi like Armaan stated but you have a minority of Mareexan, Garrimari, Gurre and other smaller clans. The Mareexan Rer Xassan and Gurre in Liben Zone were displaced from Negelle by the Boran and most Reer Xassans have crossed the border into Gedo; they now dominate Luuq town. The Gurres have also migrated in large numbers to their exclusive woredas in Guradamole and Goro Bekeksa in Afdher Zone. Gurres are actually a subclan of Akisho.

Marsin is right in highlighting that Mareexans also have deegans in Shilabo Woreda.

Did u pull this ish from ur arse...there are more reer Hassan in Libaan zone than in Somalia..and who the eff are boraan..the laangaab gudhus?

Mareehan iyo hg isku facmahaan sxb. probably same size as cayr. Habargidir is nearly the same size as abgaal marka hadaad mareexaan tiri habargidir bey isku facyihiin essentially u said mareexan and abgal are same size

This Inbreed

Sadeboi how dare u compare us with laagabs iyo wax la aqoon ..the inbred farhan oo kale nagu af baraysa:snoop:

We are the 7 districts in gedo...majority in kismaayo,..majority in mudug/galgadud, majority in columbus ohio, majority in Seattle, majority in Lesta, got Somalia Ethiopia on lock.
About 75% of properties in mogadhishu are owned by marehans..about 4 out of 10 Somalis are marehan.

Somalidu waa marehan iyo ba'ba.

Allow Marehanka dhowr. Allow maxdoyanimada reer koshin ku so celi

Laangabs down
Peasants down
Minorities iyo wax la aqoon down

Warsheikh salaanda waa laga qaaday..but from now on I am gonna be side eyeing u..u have something against the besha barakaysan.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Rooble

Apart from the Northern clans, the rest of the Dir did not really seek sanctuary in the West. The Gurgura, Gurre, Garire, Bajamal, Quranyoow are rarely found in the West for instance.

Exactly

[thegoodshepherd]

Xamud with all due respect that difference between MJ and Gadabursi ain't that large. Forget even about Ciise.

Awbare Woreda has a population of approximately 350, 000 and Awdal has a population that exceeds 600, 000 according to the latest UN estimate for Somali provinces. Combined with their significant presence in Djibouti and Shinile Zone, they are not that far off a million.

My subclan of MJ is probably the same size as Gadabursi. Forget about Gaalkacyo iyo Borama, tell me one Gadabursi town as large as Burtinle

Ciyaarta masajidka ka daa