Cawarmale - Common name? Lost clan?

[James Dahl]

One thing you discover if you study abtirsi is that there are a ton of clans named Cawarmaale or Cawrmale.

There is:

Cawarmale Maqare Samaale (original Cawarmale?)
Cawramaale Cismaan Garaad Ibraahim (Warsangeli Daarood)
Cawramaale Garjan Riyaale (Garjante Gardheere)
others I've forgotten...

Does anyone know what the deal is with Cawrmale? Is it a coincidence of a very common name in the past, or client clan adoption?

[Hyperactive]

Never heard the name leave alone their existence. I learn new qabil every day!

[Kudo]

Seems to be older clan constellation that got split in different parts around the time the arab fairy tales begun to spread.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Cawramale? Does that mean they have no private parts or does it mean they have no camels?

[SahanGalbeed]

The name indicates non noble , the butt naked bunch maybe ? Check what Kudo says up here

[sahal80]

James

Just similarity of names

I dont know the rest but theres one samaale cawramale who live in kismayo and the near by villages, these are maqare samaale, related to hawadle remotely

originally, they spread from westren hiiraan, at mustahil-bakool border area just like degodia and murule, some cawramale still live in bakool, in diinsoor

theres some inter-marriage relationship between ciise saransoor and cawramale hence why they r politically gardheere, in xamar and diaspora they r part of gardheere conferences

Theres afarta saransoor: degodia(kenya) massare(kenya) ciise and gaaljecel in jobooyinka, gaaljecel also live in hiiraan and shabeele

There is garjente the brother of saransoor, them, cawramale and ajuran havent got seats in hawiye so they joined beesha shanaaad

garjente lives in middle jubba and gedo (buaale and baardheere)

This deputy minister, sagaar is garjente
http://www.lughaya.com/home/2015/02/10/ ... -somaliya/

Its worth mentioning not to confuse garjen with garjente

Saransoor r considered gugundhabe maternally and politically

[JSL3000]

There are dozens of lost clans it's because they became so few and forgotten some joined others in a alliance

[BlueBlood]

James




Its worth mentioning not to confuse garjen with garjente

what is the difference?

[sahal80]

James




Its worth mentioning not to confuse garjen with garjente

what is the difference?

garjen is the father of saransoor...gargente the brother of saransoor

its like afarta hebel iyo adeerkood

Gaaljecel are part of hawiye garjente part of beesha shanaad...same like reerow hassan and sheekhal

But the difference is it was then mp farah abdulqadir who asked for to join beesha shanaad after he splitted from the sheekhal dominated al islah group... aw qudub have joined hawiye since they were behind abdi qasim(carta conference) loobaga were already hawiye

hawiye did not give seats to cawramale, ajuran and garjente..half of the seats have gone to hiraab

Hawadle and gaaljecel bc they need them!

[GAMES]

For the longest time, i always thought Gaaljecel and Sheikhaal were the same Qabiil.

[Thuganomics]

Cawramale? Does that mean they have no private parts or does it mean they have no camels?

The actual meaning of the word they have nothing to be ashamed of.Yacni they don't need to cover up

[TheFuturist]

Cawramale? Does that mean they have no private parts or does it mean they have no camels?

Cawar-ma-leh i.e. ma cawarna

[TheFuturist]

Cawramale? Does that mean they have no private parts or does it mean they have no camels?

The actual meaning of the word they have nothing to be ashamed of.Yacni they don't need to cover up

Ist cawar an injury? E.g. Thuganomics wuu cawaran yahay.

[Thuganomics]

The actual name is Cawr though not Cawar
Even though that's how it's spelt in the thread title

[sahal80]

Not the same as the arabic word "cawro" its cowr and maale(the maker of cowr)..some clans have the same suffix just as maal...it could mean carmaale or awrmaale (camel men)

Cowramale r one of the oldest clans.