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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby AbdiWahab252 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:57 pm

We should be wary of Somali speaking Ethiopians. The others are welcome.

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby GAMES » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:05 pm

Let me remind you 90 million is the population of ethiopians but what will it be after the upcoming civilwar? Sii xun ba laysu cuni doona weyna ka carari doonan and most of them will run to Sudan so its not only our problem teeda kale why would they run to Somalia oo baa'ba ah?
Ethiopia borders 5 countries, so they could goto anyone of those.

Their first choice would be Kenya though.

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby TheFuturist » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:30 pm

Reading Topix Ethiopia and other Ethio sites....the break up of the country isn't discussed much.
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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby TheCadaanGuy » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:27 pm

If Ethiopia collapses, what will Somalia do?

The correct answer is, of course, nothing.

There are too many foreign interests in that country and effort to maintain a ties will empathised heavily to prevent a civil war.

If it does happen, efforts will be given to ensure that next leader will be friends to whoever exerts most influence during the civil war.

Somalia will be told off if they dare to lift even a single finger.

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby PureQ » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:33 pm

@lol Zoomalia worrying about refugees. They should be more worried about Al Shabab invasion and inevitable ISIS infiltration in the North once the Ethiopian troops withdraw back to Adis. Al Shabab knows without Ethiopia, Somalia would easily collapse. I can imagine the spineless zoomali politicians and the weak bantu troops are making dua for the Tigray to survive. :lol:

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby Revolutionary » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:19 pm

Reading Topix Ethiopia and other Ethio sites....the break up of the country isn't discussed much.
The vast majority of the people in Ethiopian forums are Amharas so you won't hear those subjects because the Amhara, Gurage and few of the sub groups are the only Unionist supporters in Ethiopia. They often appear chauvinistic, nationalistic and unionist when it comes to defending Ethiopia as one nation. This is why the official language is Amharic. Even though, they don't make up the majority. This is offensive to other ethnic groups because they sees it as a sense of superiority by the Amhara and reminds them of subjugation under Amhara rule in the past before they were overthrown by their little Abyssinian cousin (Tigray).

While the people of Tigray are federalist, they are more loyal to their region than Ethiopia that was created through brute by Menelik II (Amhara) in the 1890s who brought them and others into subjugation. This is why they removed the Union system and brought federalism where ethnics can speak in their language, have powers in their region and etc but remains a puppet under Tigray.

The Amhara claim they are on Oromo side today but behind the curtain, they don't support them because the Oromo have a vision of separation, changing territorial boundaries, different goals, flags and languages etc. This is Amhara's nightmare that they're against then the most important part is they share enmity between each other due to historic-political reason.

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby guhad122 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:37 am

We should be wary of Somali speaking Ethiopians. The others are welcome.
How about Cabdi Ileey :lol: :lol: :lol:
In Somali Constitution, he is an Ethnic Somali and has the same rights as someone was born in Badhaadhe....

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby Rambie » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:01 am

As bad as Ethiopia is, I don't wish it collapse especially now at this critical time.
I am surprised @ Zoomalis who wish the downfall of Ethiopia, it's the onl thing keeping
Somalia on life support. Without Gabre, Galkacyo will dress in red again, Madoobe & Hiirale will
fall out& go for another round in Kismayo, say bye to Bay, Bakool, Hiraan and Shabelee regions. Next thing you know AS or IS will expand there and declare a country in the middle of remote mountainous.

How shortsighted Zoomalis are.

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby AwRastaale » Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:32 am

As usual the southern Somali hyenas are praying and asking their Voodoo violent Gods for doomsday in Africa's second most populous nation.

Their Gods so far paid them by giving them internal disaster, failed state and endless tribal feuds. On weekly bases more than 100 people die in Somalia over tribal issues.

This week that was the case in Galkacayo, Hiiraan, Shabelle, Kenyan borders, etc.

Ethiopia will not collapse but certainly new group will claim the helm from the minority.

The system of rule is what is needed to be revised ahead. Ethiopia had more than 2000 revolts in its long history and it never failed.

What makes you think in the 21st century your Voodoo Gods will answer your prayers?

Ethiopia is the only hope for stable Horn. Its big stick is needed to keep many in order. Ethiopia is a global partner of peace. I agree its tactics are harsh and we need to reform but it is the only sensible nation in the land with proven record of statehood and friend of peace not to mention diversity.

Rather than blame Ethiopia and waste your energy praying to violent Gods instead of Allah, you need to work on your internal issues. Pray for peace. Praying for the neighbour's peace means internal peace. I know Wanlawein do not have the brain to understand that philosophy.

Meanwhile in Ethiopia...

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You have to understand the Ethiopian history, ethnic-dynamics/relations, and faulty lines to know it will not collapse nor disintegrate.

There are several secessionist groups but they are either too weak to cause a collapse or they know they can't declare secession as much as they talk about it or use it as scare tactics.

The biggest group is the Oromo and the Oromo is so divided, there is no chance of them declaring secession to appease the other group. In this instance only Muslim eastern Oromo such as the Afran Qallo, Bale and Arsi are in favor of secession. That means they lack the support of Wollo, Shoa, Wellega, Ilubabor, Karrayuu, Borana and so forth.

Right now the war is within Oromo even though TPLF is arming groups loyal to their vision such as Mukhtar Kedir.

Why would they choose to fight each others in secession when they can fight jointly in Ethiopia against others?

The second group used to be Tigray but that's before Eritrea gained its successful independence and shut the door behind on them. Tigray will be wedged between Ethiopia and Eritrea. They know its suicidal. They will be forced to sing emamaye Itoobiya.

Then you have Cagdheer (not all of them anymore) and some Gambella but the Nuer are under attack in South Sudan so they are better under Ethiopia instead of taking their rule to South Sudan to be dominated by rival Dinka. Gambella will not stand alone.

Afar is the Kurdish of the Horn and all three countries will cooperate (Eritrea, Ethiopia and Djibouti).

They are small and mostly nomads. They possess no clear danger.



Ethiopia is global issue not just Hornians tribal feuds.


God bless Ethiopia
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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby Lancer » Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:35 am

lol wishing for downfall for the country who protects you in Hiiraan and the South in general. Ungrateful Zoomalis. :lol: :down:

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby sahal80 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:41 am

:russ: dad bay meeli bugtaa!

Real somalians enjoying it!
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0&__tn__=C

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All experts agree that if the pm is not resign ethiopia is heading to become like syria

Havent read today but since yesterday 75 people were killed so far

Its likely that the smart tigray will scapegoat the weak wolayata pm

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby Hodan94 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:27 am

Waryaa laadiini wadaad baan ahey ega wareeji futada naagta
wadaadnimada 90 million beoble jab iyo hoog la rabaa maxay tahay?

Anigu waxaan Alle ka baryay inuu cinjir iyo canjeero iyo hilib ceyrin naga badbaadiyo.

In other words, Ethiopia oo taagan wax noo dhaama ma jiro.
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lol macnaha your sorry for ethiopia jalal? an american somalia expert has once warned from the somali federalism bc if ethiopia collapses, somalia will collapse too by losing the regime that they were relying on!

we have the arab countries.
Arab countries themselves are collapsing soon..most have anyway..things will be v. Interesting.
With burundi being on the verge of a civil war... will amisom focus on their troops in these countries in the future?

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby theyuusuf143 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:39 am

The bigger ethnics will grab the power as usual. I thing this change will have impact on Somali galbeed. will iley die defending his minority masters. or will he switch sides? I think he should play his cards very carefully.

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Re: somalia should get ready for ethiopian collapse!

Postby sahal80 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:11 pm

Arab countries themselves are collapsing soon..most have anyway..things will be v. Interesting.
With burundi being on the verge of a civil war... will amisom focus on their troops in these countries in the future?[/quote]amisom will be dissolved by 2017 anyways and if any thing happens a UN forces will be deployed...the IC will never let somalia for the terrorists again


my region will be in a better position bc ethiopia is a home for the spoilers. we will Invade mustahil from feerfeer..its mainly hawadle and jidle (gugundhabe) divided by the river

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustahil_(woreda)
https://youtu.be/FoghdILvpPE


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