https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHaavqtnn7U
after 25+ years the poor locals of lower shabelle are still victims of horrfic crimes bieng commited by outsiders who claim to represent the somali army.
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I didn't watch the video but mostly replied to smooth's laba waji.[img]in SL but support Hawiya expansion in lower
Shabele under SNA? So much for your Somali National Army.
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The guys/girls on the video are complaining and dissing sharif hassan mirifle and not hawiye in general,hawiye doesnt need to expand into lower shabelle,lower shabelle was created by afweyne it is called exbanadir and ends all the way to barawe,when was biymal when ibnu batuta called marka an ancient hawiye city,biyamaal cant claim anything beyond that they share a city with 30+ clans and if they continue to support alshabab then they will feel the wrath of the general populace,you are reading too much into this dir theory.
the Hiraab imamate was a powerful alliance of closely related groups who shared a common lineage under the Gurgarte clan divisions. It successfully revolted against the Ajuran empire in the 15th and 16th centuries before establishling an independent entity.
The Imamate formed a clear division of power. The alliance involved the army leaders and advisors of the Habar Gidir and Duduble, a Fiqhi/Qadi of Sheikhal, and the Imam was reserved for the Mudulood branch who is believed to have been the first born. Once established, the Imamate ruled the territories stretching from Mogadishu in the Banaadir province along the coast to as far as the port town of Hobyo in the northernmost
According to Idris that's 800 years it was the capital of HawiyeThe Hawiya still form one of the most important tribes of the Somali, and at the time when al-Idrisi was writing his book they occupied the coastal area between Ras Hafun and Merca, as well as the lower basin of the Webe Shebele. Al-Idrisi’s mention of the Hawiya is the first documentary reference to a specific Somali group in the Horn, and it constitutes a very important testimony to the early Somali occupancy of the whole region. Later Arab writers also make references to the Hawiya in connection with both Merca and the lower valley of the Webe Shebele. Ibn Sa’id (1214-74), for instance, considered Merca to be the capital of the Hawiya, who lived in fifty villages on the bank of a river which he called ‘the nile of Mogadishu’, a clear reference to the Webe Shebele. Yaqut, another thirteenth century Arab geographer, also mentions Merca, which he says belongs to the “Black Berbers
Smooth you're the same person who thinks Berbera port was built by the Soviets!
You cry on the current deportation plan in SL but support Hawiya expansion in lower
Shabele under SNA? So much for your Somali National Army.
Firstly, these folk are the LS Digil hence why they keep mentioning they were sold out by the Ashraf Sharif Xassan who ain't even Mirifle. Nigga turns a blind eye whilst Mooryans run riot. Furthermore, unlike the Biimal, they never picked up the gun and are not in control of any of their territory except the Garre and some Jiido. They and the Bantus are the true victims of the Mooryan onslaught on LS, they mostly suffer in silence. The only SNA in Biimal territory is in parts of the city city of Marka and Shaleembood. Janaale is under AS. In the No50 to Marka road, Biimal militia man the checkpoints. Even during the height of the Indhacadde years, the Biimals were not severely hampered by the Mooryans as they are mostly nomadic. Their clients, the Biimal-Jareer, were subjected to forced labour nonetheless.
Smooth
You must be the dumbest propagandist on Somalinet. The same books written by Western scholars that you quote refute your assertions that the Biimal are recent migrants. It is an established fact that they arrived in 18th century and established a Sultanate that spanned the coast from Marka to Jammaame. Moreover, you keep hiding under the Hiirab umbrella. No one disputes that the Mudulood are native to parts of Lower Shabelle but your red eyed brothers have no Deegan in Lower Shabelle, not even one f-king Tuulo. The closest thing you have to native HG's are the drought stricken nomads that were airlifted during the severe drought of the 70's and even they are numerically irrelevant. Bear in mind that even Isaaqs and Dhullos were also airlifted as part of the same operaton, do you see them claiming LS or LJ? As for quoting Idrissi, he does not even mention Hawiye but Western scholars decided to interpret his reference to a 'Hadiye' clan as being Hawiye. Allah knows who they were but one thing is for sure they were not Hiirab because the Hiirabs were somewhere in North/Central Somalia at that time whilst the Karanle were somewhere in Ethiopia. They might be other Samaales that came south long before Dir or Hawiye ventured south.
The Mudulood also migrated south from the Mareeg and Ceeldheer area in the 17th century. They and a host of other clans brought a gradual end to Ajuuran power in the South. The Silcis have the oldest presence among the Hawiye in Lower Shabelle but they were defeated by the Geledi well before the Biimal came on to the scene and are now virtually extinct. The borders between clans in LS are known, Mudulood and Biimal share a border, likewise the Geledi and Mudulood/Murursade share a border etc. Can you tell me where do Biimal or Digil territory end and HG starts? Like I have said before, holding on to former Kacaan plantations does not amount to having a Deegan. You have no Reer Mii or native resources to fall back on, just the SNA. How does it feel like to be the Neo-Faqash?
mahad sanid. You said it like it is. No one is questioning whether HG reside in LS or not. The fact is they are not native to the region. Ilaahay ha laga baqo. Sometimes i feel very ashamed of mudulood not protecting the cadcads, digil and biimaal during the civil war from the voltures. 
Now that you have admitted you arrived at the 18th century, my quote are from the 16/17 Century still way before you and that's taking you at your words since you provided no quotes, if you factor in Idris quotes for which the fast majority of scholars have the same interpretation, it's even FAR further back 800 years ago, your the only people that have no deegans in the whole of Somalia, if we moved to district based, your the biggest losers.You must be the dumbest propagandist on Somalinet. Tahe same books written by Western scholars that you quote refute your assertions that the Biimal are recent migrants. It is an established fact that they arrived in 18th century and established a Sultanate tht spanned the coast from Marka to Jammaame.
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