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Most people who abandoned Islam did their homework I have yet to see an apostate who is ignorant of Islam, recently I finished reading Ibn Warraq apostate book, he is well versed in Islam.

As Somalis in particular we can see how culture influences how religion is interpreted. If you look back three generations, actually we don't even have to go that far back. Our parents. Most have been Muslim their whole lives and how they lived what was acceptable to them in the 60s and 70s, 80s and now, there's an ocean between. So there is always that drawback when analysing religion by critiquing the behaviour of the followers and for me by and large that's what haddiths are.

So you've said you don't like the behaviour of some Muslims and I can't blame you. Is that what made you want to question Islam?

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To be honest with you most Islam leavers leave because of a bad experience, not because they are challenging the actual thesis of the quran.

It is always oh Islam is bad to women (every religion is bad to women. Hell 300 years ago women in Europe were being drowned and burned if someone mentioned which craft. Hindu India has some of the most worst treatments of women where gang rape is prevalent)

Point is if you fundamentally critically challenge the core of Islam /God/stories of the quran then I have respect for you then a emotional person who can't differentiate between culture and core values of religion.


Non the less, I have to agree with the point about abusing conquered people's women. Islam does say you can have sex with captured women prisoners of war or slave girls. That is rape and absolutely unjustifiable.

Under Islam, sex slavery is permitted. No one can deny this.

Another criticism of Islam I have is the fact that every nation being sent a prophet is just wrong, why does the quran focus only on prophets from the middle east (Israeli, Egyptian or arabs) is there a prophet from African nation or European nation. does Allah favor middle easterners to everyone else? Bit weird considering Allah created everyone. This would defeat the fallacy that anyone can choose to be followers of God which clearly is nonsense since not everyone got an equal opportunity. What justification is there for the people of Israel receiving more prophets then anyone. That simply doesn't reflect a supreme creator that provides an equal opportunity.


Non the less, I believe in Allah swc and I believe that Allah judges by actions, not whether you make your sujuud on a rock or whether you wear a short khamis or any of those irrelevant things. I believe a inherently good person will please Allah no matter the trivial circumstances.

I don't believe that Islam approves of rape I don't know how any can believe that

The second point is that there is a difference between prophets and messengers. There are numerous prophets some are mentioned in the Quran and others aren't. However there have been 4 messengers with 4 books and you are right all are descendants of nabi Ibrahim pbuh. That's not to say that what is today known as Africa and Europe didn't get prophets

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Alhamdulilah Cala nimcatul Islam

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To be honest with you most Islam leavers leave because of a bad experience, not because they are challenging the actual thesis of the quran.

It is always oh Islam is bad to women (every religion is bad to women. Hell 300 years ago women in Europe were being drowned and burned if someone mentioned which craft. Hindu India has some of the most worst treatments of women where gang rape is prevalent)

Point is if you fundamentally critically challenge the core of Islam /God/stories of the quran then I have respect for you then a emotional person who can't differentiate between culture and core values of religion.


Non the less, I have to agree with the point about abusing conquered people's women. Islam does say you can have sex with captured women prisoners of war or slave girls. That is rape and absolutely unjustifiable.

Under Islam, sex slavery is permitted. No one can deny this.

Another criticism of Islam I have is the fact that every nation being sent a prophet is just wrong, why does the quran focus only on prophets from the middle east (Israeli, Egyptian or arabs) is there a prophet from African nation or European nation. does Allah favor middle easterners to everyone else? Bit weird considering Allah created everyone. This would defeat the fallacy that anyone can choose to be followers of God which clearly is nonsense since not everyone got an equal opportunity. What justification is there for the people of Israel receiving more prophets then anyone. That simply doesn't reflect a supreme creator that provides an equal opportunity.


Non the less, I believe in Allah swc and I believe that Allah judges by actions, not whether you make your sujuud on a rock or whether you wear a short khamis or any of those irrelevant things. I believe a inherently good person will please Allah no matter the trivial circumstances.

I don't believe that Islam approves of rape I don't know how any can believe that

The second point is that there is a difference between prophets and messengers. There are numerous prophets some are mentioned in the Quran and others aren't. However there have been 4 messengers with 4 books and you are right all are descendants of nabi Ibrahim pbuh. That's not to say that what is today known as Africa and Europe didn't get prophets

Are you not familiar with concubinage? Under sharia, slavery is sanctioned and a female slave is the property of her master. That master can have his way with her however he likes without incurring Allah's wrath. If that is not rape, then I don't know what is.

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Calm down guys.

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Are you not familiar with concubinage? Under sharia, slavery is sanctioned and a female slave is the property of her master. That master can have his way with her however he likes without incurring Allah's wrath. If that is not rape, then I don't know what is.

I am familiar with concubines and how far back that goes. I am familiar with Islam and how it champions the freeing of slaves, staying within the confines of marriage and respecting fellow humans.

Where, when or how Muslim men decided that Islam gives them permission to do the opposite is between them and their Lord

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Are you not familiar with concubinage? Under sharia, slavery is sanctioned and a female slave is the property of her master. That master can have his way with her however he likes without incurring Allah's wrath. If that is not rape, then I don't know what is.

I am familiar with concubines and how far back that goes. I am familiar with Islam and how it champions the freeing of slaves, staying within the confines of marriage and respecting fellow humans.

Where, when or how Muslim men decided that Islam gives them permission to do the opposite is between them and their Lord

What

You are pleading ignorance?

In a war, muslims can take their enemies wives and do to them whatever they want. This is a fact, we aren't making this up. And that is rape

Thus in that situation Islam allows rape.

What isis is doing to yazidi girls is Halal according to Islam.


Whether you think that is right or wrong is another matter.

Also the excuse of it being an old practice is bullshit, alcohol is an old practice yet Islam banned it. So no reason why they wouldn't ban it.

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What Isis are doing to Yazidis is not Xalal as they were not at war with Muslims. The Sharia is clear as to who can and cannot be taken as a slave.

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Are you not familiar with concubinage? Under sharia, slavery is sanctioned and a female slave is the property of her master. That master can have his way with her however he likes without incurring Allah's wrath. If that is not rape, then I don't know what is.

I am familiar with concubines and how far back that goes. I am familiar with Islam and how it champions the freeing of slaves, staying within the confines of marriage and respecting fellow humans.

Where, when or how Muslim men decided that Islam gives them permission to do the opposite is between them and their Lord

What

You are pleading ignorance?

In a war, muslims can take their enemies wives and do to them whatever they want. This is a fact, we aren't making this up. And that is rape

Thus in that situation Islam allows rape.

What isis is doing to yazidi girls is Halal according to Islam.


Whether you think that is right or wrong is another matter.

Also the excuse of it being an old practice is bullshit, alcohol is an old practice yet Islam banned it. So no reason why they wouldn't ban it.

I am not pleading ignorance I am saying that I disagree with it wholly and completely for the reasons I stated