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The sad reality of somalia

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Siciid85 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:30 am

How does one expect Somalia to become proper country if Mooryaans are claiming every inch of land?

Wali casharkii 25 socday, waxba lagama baran.

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Geeljire252 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:10 am

^
Lol, what kind of Hawiye uses the term Hutu for his clan? You're Darood, be proud of who you are and attack people under the banner of your clan. That's FDK 101.

Jamaame and Jamaame district is in the hands of Biimaal and Surre. :blessed:
1) do you know who came up with the term "Hutu"
Prof Maxamed Siyaad Togane (waceyle Abgaal) came up with that term.


2) There is no surre in the south.

Surre mostly settle in Central Somalia. The furthest south they go is Ethiopia and Hiiraan Border.



Gaadsan(another dir subclan) is present in Jubboyinka.

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:01 am

Marka is Hawiye city.

Biyomaal terrorists can gtfo.
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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:04 am

Wherever Hutus go, disaster follows. I feel bad for the civilised Biyomaal.
Hydrogen aka righteous, Hutu adigo leh bey nafta kaa bixi. :clap:

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:08 am

Only in snet can hutus claim merka. It belongs to Biimaal and will allways belong to Dir
Says the irrelevant from unknown country :(

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Kudo » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:22 am

Only in snet can hutus claim merka. It belongs to Biimaal and will allways belong to Dir
Says the irrelevant from unknown country :(
What unkown country? Im from Somalia and hail from the south. Hutus can claim but their claims will stop at just claims. If they want to live peacefully in the south.

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Kudo » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:23 am

Prof Maxamed Siyaad Togane (waceyle Abgaal) came up with that term.


2) There is no surre in the south.

Surre mostly settle in Central Somalia. The furthest south they go is Ethiopia and Hiiraan Border.



Gaadsan(another dir subclan) is present in Jubboyinka.
Surre lives in jubboyinka and gedo. But what would a naked hutu know?

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:31 am

Prof Maxamed Siyaad Togane (waceyle Abgaal) came up with that term.


2) There is no surre in the south.

Surre mostly settle in Central Somalia. The furthest south they go is Ethiopia and Hiiraan Border.



Gaadsan(another dir subclan) is present in Jubboyinka.
Surre lives in jubboyinka and gedo. But what would a naked hutu know?
Afhayeenka surre gormaad noqatay?
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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:33 am

You gonna have to be a bit more inventive here (a naked hutu insult isn't just gonna cut it) :eat:

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Strategic » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:24 am

from raskamboni to baraxleey,it is not our fault we are found in large numbers

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Geeljire252 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:36 am

Marka is Hawiye city.

Biyomaal terrorists can gtfo.
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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Geeljire252 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:39 am


Jubbaland, Gedo, Hiiraan, Galgadud Sare are not gonna be ruled by Muqdisho sorry to burst your bubble

Just be happy with Banadir if you can even secure that :lol:
Another confused Dhabayaco.
Gedo= Jubaland

Galgaduud sare doesn't exist. A fake paper maamul being pushed by the cowards of bunaaniland. where are they?
They are not in Cabudwaaq? Reer Cabuudwaaq are pro Galmudug. https://youtu.be/_wncYkC6S_k














Hiraan = gobol ka mid ah Soomaaliya. Therefore it is directly ruled by the government in Mogadishu. Like all other areas in Somalia.
Guy looks likes his starving to death. Is Guuleed not paying his deputy or what?
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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby FarhanYare » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:44 am

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Xildiiid » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:29 am

^
Lol, what kind of Hawiye uses the term Hutu for his clan? You're Darood, be proud of who you are and attack people under the banner of your clan. That's FDK 101.

Jamaame and Jamaame district is in the hands of Biimaal and Surre. :blessed:
1) do you know who came up with the term "Hutu"
Prof Maxamed Siyaad Togane (waceyle Abgaal) came up with that term.


2) There is no surre in the south.

Surre mostly settle in Central Somalia. The furthest south they go is Ethiopia and Hiiraan Border.



Gaadsan(another dir subclan) is present in Jubboyinka.

If it's an established term within your clan then Hutu it is.

Surre live in eastern Sanaag, Bari, eastern Nugaal coast, Mudug, Galguduud, Hiiraan and they're found in the south as well where they live with their Dir brethren in the Jubba valley.

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Re: The sad reality of somalia

Postby Geeljire252 » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:07 pm

Lol @ Biimaal being slaves.

Biimaal sultanate owned slaves, sold slaves and controlled lower Shabelle from the 17th century when they defeated their rivals the Geledi sultanate until they clashed with the Italians colonialists who challenged their hegemony in Lower Shabeelle and eastern parts of Middle and Lower Jubba.


Marka
The town, which was founded by Arab or Persian traders, was in existence by the 10th century. The first Somalis to settle near there arrived in the 13th century, and in the 17th century the town, its hinterland, and caravan routes from the interior were controlled by the Bimal, a subgroup of one of the four major Somali clans, who traded extensively in ivory, slaves, cattle, and hides.
Hadiya is a southern Cushitic group whose Kingdom once ruled parts of central and southern Ethiopia. Many of the Habesha kings married from the Hadiya to establish strong ties with this powerful Kingdom.

The first clear written reference to any Galla or Somali group is found in
the writings of the thirteenth-century Arab geographer, Ibn Sa’id. Ibn
Sa’id says that Merca, a town on the southern Somali coast near the Shebeli
River, was the ‘capital of the Hawiye country’, which consisted of more
than fifty villages (or districts or tribes)

This area is today the home of the
Hawiye Somali clan-family, so there is good reason to assume that the Merca
region has been occupied continuously by the same Somali group for the
past 700 years. In fact, we can probably extend this to 800 years, for the
geographer al-Idrisi remarks that Merca was the region of the ‘Hadiye’
in the twelfth century. It is quite likely that the extant texts contain an
error, and that it should be ‘Hawiye’, as Guillain, Schleicher, and Cerulli
Merca; the ancient capital of the Hawiyya country.
Source:
The Shaping of Somali Society: Reconstructing the History of a Pastoral People, 1600 to 1900

The Hadiye of Ethiopia have no connection with Marka.
In Arabic the letters د و are very similar so when al Idrisi referred to Marka as "capital of الهدية" it was clear he was referring to Hawiye clan which are present in the town and meant to write الهوية.

Infact all confusion was cleared up when another explorer, Ibn Sa'iid, referred to Marka as "capital of the HAWIYE country" in the 13th century (one century after Al Idrisi).







Now let's look at the Ajuuraan (Hawiye) Empire that ruled the area throughout the Middle Ages.

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Hawiye founded Marka and it has always been a Hawiye city.

Biyomaal only recently came from Ethiopia.


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