Why ain't Somaliland speaking against

[Khalid Ali]

since the turks entertain our enemies all we need to do i bring their rivals to berbera it can be by any one the russians irianians or the arabs the khaleeji already have their spot in berbera. our enemiew down south will not be a threat to our security all we need to do is fuel the ongoing conflict in the south particularly in galkacyo thats a hot zone.

[AwRastaale]

The south does not possess any threat to SL. It lacks all the factors needed to be victorious.

The most important one is moral law and that means our people do not have the moral love nor are in complete accord with Wanlawein views. So he who lacks that hardly wins no matter the size of the army.

What made early Muslims win war after war was their strong moral duty and accord with Islam. What made Muslims weak is their lack of that today.

So don't worry as long as our people reject Xamar morally, our two bridges will stand apart.

The other factors include earth, monetary, disciplines, and leadership.

Just some foreigner creating a base doesn't mean one inherits all those above over night. How did the French or American base(s) in Djibouti embed that into them?

Turkey base is no threat but we have to use it to drum up fears and use it to our end.

Our moral laws need to stand stronger, brighter and more heavenly than the opponent camp. If you get this right without blind folding them you have nothing to worry.

As long as you have loyal citizens, Taiwan can over come even China but the day Taiwanese morals decline below Beijing's ones, China is going to stroll home.

The war of separation only has two fronts; morals and stamp.

Make your morals superior and disable the opponents stamp by engaging with others; investments, bases, education, training.

As an example let's use this very forum to draw a picture.

In camp one you have Khalid, Xildiid, theYusuf, myself, Togdheer and Gurey in one camp because morally we are close.

Then camp two is; Ben Dover, Skywalker, Boholian, X-Playa.

Now tell me which camp would Wanlawein crash successfully? Do you need a Turkish man to tell you the weakness?

[whitehartlane]

There is nothing to speak about and SL voice doesn't carry any influence in any region.

SL needs to see the Turkish factor is actually a blessing in disguise.

You need to play your cards right and use Turkish foes including Arabs, Kurds and even Israelis to your advantage.

So far the Arabs made it clear they want Berbera so give them that and let them invite their Lawrence too.

Really SL has the opportunities and Turkey's presence in Mogadishu works in her favor.

To the West you need to convince them SL needs same approach as Kurdistan, at least some direct engagement.

In the same manner they limit Baghdad and under cut Ankara, we need to do the same in the Horn.

Turkey's base is a threat to the whole region including Ethiopia. For all we know the Turks could be trying to revive an Ottoman style incursion and seeds for another Ahmed Gran.

So Ethiopia has right to invite Russia too.

The region is getting hot. The Chinese and Japanese will fight over Djibouti.

SL has to be with Khaleejis and Israelis against three way war; Turks, Persians and Arab-Israelis.

So in short make our homeland a permanent battlefield for the foreigners..
What if we solved our issues amongst ourselves and keep our homeland bacteria-free...

[theyuusuf143]

There is nothing to speak about and SL voice doesn't carry any influence in any region.

SL needs to see the Turkish factor is actually a blessing in disguise.

You need to play your cards right and use Turkish foes including Arabs, Kurds and even Israelis to your advantage.

So far the Arabs made it clear they want Berbera so give them that and let them invite their Lawrence too.

Really SL has the opportunities and Turkey's presence in Mogadishu works in her favor.

To the West you need to convince them SL needs same approach as Kurdistan, at least some direct engagement.

In the same manner they limit Baghdad and under cut Ankara, we need to do the same in the Horn.

Turkey's base is a threat to the whole region including Ethiopia. For all we know the Turks could be trying to revive an Ottoman style incursion and seeds for another Ahmed Gran.

So Ethiopia has right to invite Russia too.

The region is getting hot. The Chinese and Japanese will fight over Djibouti.

SL has to be with Khaleejis and Israelis against three way war; Turks, Persians and Arab-Israelis.

So in short make our homeland a permanent battlefield for the foreigners..
What if we solved our issues amongst ourselves and keep our homeland bacteria-free...

That's very unlikely . Your puntland government is million times closer to hargeisa than Mogadishu. The chemistry level of the southern
team is very weak.

[whitehartlane]

I tried to read your writing several times to understand your point..

Can u put it differently.. what has proximity to Hargeysa or xamar have to do with renting the Somali peninsula to foreign armies?

Sit down take a breather and think again.

[BigBreak]

WHL

its reer hiraab (who dominate the so-called SFG) that brings in outsiders to meddle in internal pan-somali affairs, this is my opinion

but why dont the deluded southerers (including PL) recognise somalia itself will disintegrate forever than somalia and somaliland reuniting

we S'landers have the right to defend ourselves from any threats from outside

[Havoc]

There is nothing to speak about and SL voice doesn't carry any influence in any region.

SL needs to see the Turkish factor is actually a blessing in disguise.

You need to play your cards right and use Turkish foes including Arabs, Kurds and even Israelis to your advantage.

So far the Arabs made it clear they want Berbera so give them that and let them invite their Lawrence too.

Really SL has the opportunities and Turkey's presence in Mogadishu works in her favor.

To the West you need to convince them SL needs same approach as Kurdistan, at least some direct engagement.

In the same manner they limit Baghdad and under cut Ankara, we need to do the same in the Horn.

Turkey's base is a threat to the whole region including Ethiopia. For all we know the Turks could be trying to revive an Ottoman style incursion and seeds for another Ahmed Gran.

So Ethiopia has right to invite Russia too.

The region is getting hot. The Chinese and Japanese will fight over Djibouti.

SL has to be with Khaleejis and Israelis against three way war; Turks, Persians and Arab-Israelis.

So in short make our homeland a permanent battlefield for the foreigners..
What if we solved our issues amongst ourselves and keep our homeland bacteria-free...

That's very unlikely . Your puntland government is million times closer to hargeisa than Mogadishu. The chemistry level of the southern
team is very weak.

I don't why you guys scheming and planning? we all know Icteraaf will never happen,instead focus on how to get the biggest pie in Somalia by playing on the "national level".

[Khalid Ali]

why share something with ignoble walanweyns when u can have a country of ur own. national level amisom level dhe

[xiimaaya]

Turks are absolutely disgraceful and their Madhab is deviant and should be fought . They cant bring peace to their own country what business do they have in zoomalia? Hairy pigs.

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .


They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.

The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.

Ok if there's peace in Mogadishu why is there 22,000 amison soldiers just answer me that geeljire

[Geeljire252]

The Turkish military base in Mogadishu, it will be detrimental to Somaliland peace .


They will train and most properly help Mogadishu to gain a foothold or at least try to regain Somaliland, if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu.

The Somaliland administration has to at least acknowledge the harm it could cause in the long term.

Ok if there's peace in Mogadishu why is there 22,000 amisom soldiers just answer me that geeljire

you said "if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu".

As in you're against mogadishu becoming peaceful.

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

Ok if there's peace in Mogadishu why is there 22,000 amisom soldiers just answer me that geeljire

you said "if peace and stability comes to Mogadishu".

As in you're against mogadishu becoming peaceful.

I never said I'm against peace coming to Mogadishu, I disagree politically with xamar administration,

Geeljire I said IF because clearly reer Mogadishu can't bring peace between themselves and this fufus ain't serious about securing Mogadishu but just there to fill there pocket's. The only people who will bring peace Allah's will are the inhabitants of xamar.


I wish where ever Somalis inhabited there is peace inshallah

[Geeljire252]

I never said I'm against peace coming to Mogadishu, I disagree politically with xamar administration,

Geeljire I said IF because clearly reer Mogadishu can't bring peace between themselves and this fufus ain't serious about securing Mogadishu but just there to fill there pocket's. The only people who will bring peace Allah's will are the inhabitants of xamar.


I wish where ever Somalis inhabited there is peace inshallah

ofcourse there is peace between reer mogadishu

when was the last time you heard clans fighting in mogadishu?
90s was the first and last time we fought each other as reer mogadishu



Amisom does not provide security in xamar, all security is provided by local reer mogadishu.
This was demonstrated twice during IGAD summits

[SuldaanOfSanaag]

Ok Mogadishu has moved a lot since the 90s

[AwRastaale]

Turks are absolutely disgraceful and their Madhab is deviant and should be fought . They cant bring peace to their own country what business do they have in zoomalia? Hairy pigs.

You calacaal too much hooyada wase.

Shut up fool and worry about your little Sool village.