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[Sharmarke91]

From 8.22 Clearly states the first somali settlers of Ceerigabo were indeed Abdullah Hamud - (Muse Ismail)

Jidaale demographic is Mohamed Muse (Urursuge) of [Muse Ismail] & Baregeye of [Dhulbahante]. They Intermarry heavily. Further East you go all the way to Lasqoray and border you will meet Yonis Muse of [Muse Ismail] largely living with the Warsangeli's.

It doesn't matter if the first settlers were HY. Mogadisho was first settled by Banadiri people and now it's a Hawiye city. And anyway I never disputed about the first settlers, in fact I did state to your delusional cousin that the first man to settle there was HY. However, my claim is that Erigavo is a shared city and the Isaaq and Harti clans share it 50/50 in the present day.

All though the people interviewed in the documentary are all Isaaq and biased they do clarify that it was always a shared city.


Jiidali the town is 100% inhabited by Bah Righaye and some Bih ina Faarax of the Naleya Ahmed and always has been an ancient Dhulbahante settlement.

[Sharmarke91]

This is so sad, I feel like I am beating up on a disabled person.

This is what you've said about this book that your brought to this discussion that it is:

The most extensive and comprehensive survey ever conducted in the former British Somaliland

You said it is the most extensive, and comprehensive survey done.

So where do you see Erigavo in the list of home wells that YOU brought to us?



The answer is no where. Period. I am not looking for excuses. I am not looking for places near Erigavo. I am not looking for guesses as to whether or not they may have moved there later. None of that. Either it lists Erigavo or not. In this case, your most comprehensive and extensive survey ever done confirms Erigavo was not a home well of Naleya Ahmed.

On the other hand, it lists Erigavo as a home well of Isaaq subclans:



And



These are the same clans you see surrounding Erigavo from every direction.




HY- Abdalla Hamud (every single direction north, east, west, south)
HJ - Basanbur and Idleh Beeda (south and west)

You have no case. This is just another source your brought that backfired on your ass.

Accept it.

Take the L.

Embrace the L.

f-king Dhaadhaan!

The general survey proofs the Dhulbahante are native to the Erigavo degaan and lived there before the city was established. I see how you keep avoiding this point.

It doesn't say Erigavo bay kaga dhagtay

Even if we agree with your degenerate logic and for arguments sake say that this Abudlla Hamud you refer to used the Erigavo well, HOW THE FUCK DOES IT PROOF THAT MODERN DAY ERIGAVO IS AN ISAAQ TOWN? This is what this whole thread has been about and you are yet to provide an independent source which explicitly says Erigavo is an Isaaq town.

Can you please just do that? it's no rocket science.

[Sharmarke91]

@ 19.43 Even the Eydoor "Mayor" of Ceerigabo admits wakhtigi Ingiriiska " Ceerigaabo cidi ku sugnaday ee ku nooladay" waxa cuqaal u aha Ali Mohamed Farah (HY), Awke Jabane (Naleye Ahmed), Jama Mohamed Egal (HJ) & Mohamoud Ali Shire (Warsangeli).

So, do we need to discuss this any further?

Note: The Awke Jabane the "Mayor" refers to was the Caqiil of the Bihi'Darys, Naleye Ahmed in those days. The Bihi'Darys now mostly settle in the Xudun district and southern Erigavo district (though some still remain in Erigavo).

[X.Playa]

From 8.22 Clearly states the first somali settlers of Ceerigabo were indeed Abdullah Hamud - (Muse Ismail)

Jidaale demographic is Mohamed Muse (Urursuge) of [Muse Ismail] & Baregeye of [Dhulbahante]. They Intermarry heavily. Further East you go all the way to Lasqoray and border you will meet Yonis Muse of [Muse Ismail] largely living with the Warsangeli's.

It doesn't matter if the first settlers were HY. Mogadisho was first settled by Banadiri people and now it's a Hawiye city. And anyway I never disputed about the first settlers, in fact I did state to your delusional cousin that the first man to settle there was HY. However, my claim is that Erigavo is a shared city and the Isaaq and Harti clans share it 50/50 in the present day.

All though the people interviewed in the documentary are all Isaaq and biased they do clarify that it was always a shared city.


Jiidali the town is 100% inhabited by Bah Righaye and some Bih ina Faarax of the Naleya Ahmed and always has been an ancient Dhulbahante settlement.

Realy jidali belongs to you ? Looool even your most famouse Dhulbahante propagandist and virulent Isaaq hater Aw Jaamac knows better then to lie about Jidali. Just beacuse you watered from Karamaan, Jidali, Midhisho and Yufle it doesn't mean you owned the land or the well. Listen to the first 20 seconds.

[X.Playa]

@ 19.43 Even the Eydoor "Mayor" of Ceerigabo admits wakhtigi Ingiriiska " Ceerigaabo cidi ku sugnaday ee ku nooladay" waxa cuqaal u aha Ali Mohamed Farah (HY), Awke Jabane (Naleye Ahmed), Jama Mohamed Egal (HJ) & Mohamoud Ali Shire (Warsangeli).

So, do we need to discuss this any further?

Note: The Awke Jabane the "Mayor" refers to was the Caqiil of the Bihi'Darys, Naleye Ahmed in those days. The Bihi'Darys now mostly settle in the Xudun district and southern Erigavo district (though some still remain in Erigavo).

Disperate and selective interpretations. If you listen to the elder around 10 minutes he unequivocally and bluntly says the twon belong to isaaq " anakaa iska lahayn" of non isaaq he mentioned an old Arab family.

Now as far as what the mayor said its obvious he meant the district of Ceerigaabo which was the term for all Sanaag in 1960 . When he listed the Daarood he didn't mean ceerigaabo town he meant district of ceerigaabo which is the old term for the entire Sanaag region and in the end he corrected himself and used the term " district ".

Don't confuse " district of ceerigaabo which is the old name for the province before it was changed into sanaag" and the town or ceerigaabo.

There were 5 districts the British divided SL into the districts of hargaysa , burao, zeila-boorama, erigavo and las anod. So if one uses the term district of Hargaysa historically it means the modern day province of Waqooyi Galbeed and not the city itself.

[X.Playa]

This table shows the correct results. Those unaccounted quotes you drag out off your ass incorrect.

That is not going to fly qurjiile. Try again.

You are citing a random website Somalilandlaw.com.

On the other hand we have not one, not two, not four, but five academic sources, in multiple languages, all corroborating and confirming the correct result for Erigavo returning a no vote at 69%, higher than that of Burao. This is paints the clearest picture of demographics of Erigavo. Unlike the non-Isaaq cities returning a strong yes vote.


Also why are you not addressing the fact that you misread your own table?

What a failure

He actually said it returned a yes vote! The qurjiile fails to read his own sources. Again.



Try again qurjiile, your desperate struggles are very entertaining

Try again bitch. Your just posting the propaganda propagated my the Eydoor lover John Drysdale.

What uneducated dumb fuck if you do the math proportionally Drysdale is right , you are just to dumb to distinguished total vote from porpotion of yes and no.

Using your figures ceerigaabo district voted 65.6% no.

So whats your point?

[HamzzBowse]

From 8.22 Clearly states the first somali settlers of Ceerigabo were indeed Abdullah Hamud - (Muse Ismail)

Jidaale demographic is Mohamed Muse (Urursuge) of [Muse Ismail] & Baregeye of [Dhulbahante]. They Intermarry heavily. Further East you go all the way to Lasqoray and border you will meet Yonis Muse of [Muse Ismail] largely living with the Warsangeli's.

It doesn't matter if the first settlers were HY. Mogadisho was first settled by Banadiri people and now it's a Hawiye city. And anyway I never disputed about the first settlers, in fact I did state to your delusional cousin that the first man to settle there was HY. However, my claim is that Erigavo is a shared city and the Isaaq and Harti clans share it 50/50 in the present day.

All though the people interviewed in the documentary are all Isaaq and biased they do clarify that it was always a shared city.


Jiidali the town is 100% inhabited by Bah Righaye and some Bih ina Faarax of the Naleya Ahmed and always has been an ancient Dhulbahante settlement.

Jidaale is not 100% Dhulbante. Bah RIghaye live aside the Urursuge of [Muse Ismail] They live from Sheikh Subeer tomb to throughtout the city. Urursuge has held countless clan meetings and allah baari in Jidaale.

Waa Bilahi Towfiq.

[Sharmarke91]

What uneducated dumb fuck if you do the math proportionally Drysdale is right , you are just to dumb to distinguished total vote from porpotion of yes and no.

Using your figures ceerigaabo district voted 65.6% no.

So whats your point?

Xaarplaya

Wallahy I actually laughed. Your calling me uneducated? lol I doubt you even been to primary school.

What proportion you on about? lol shit is simple.

9,969/6019*100 = 60.3%

and in what world is Drysdale right? when he said 69%.

Xaarplaya must be smoking some strong Thai weed.

[Sharmarke91]

Disperate and selective interpretations. If you listen to the elder around 10 minutes he unequivocally and bluntly says the twon belong to isaaq " anakaa iska lahayn" of non isaaq he mentioned an old Arab family.

Now as far as what the mayor said its obvious he meant the district of Ceerigaabo which was the term for all Sanaag in 1960 . When he listed the Daarood he didn't mean ceerigaabo town he meant district of ceerigaabo which is the old term for the entire Sanaag region and in the end he corrected himself and used the term " district ".

Don't confuse " district of ceerigaabo which is the old name for the province before it was changed into sanaag" and the town or ceerigaabo.

There were 5 districts the British divided SL into the districts of hargaysa , burao, zeila-boorama, erigavo and las anod. So if one uses the term district of Hargaysa historically it means the modern day province of Waqooyi Galbeed and not the city itself.

- Your talking about the old man with the pink go' right? go listen to him a again he never said that at all.

- As for "the mayor" why would he talk about the Sanaag region, when he was questioned on the history of Erigavo city? the guy just put an end to your claim lol. I didn't even know Warsengali were in Erigavo around that time Laakin ninkaasba inoo cadeeyay.

- You should tell to your cousin Bent Over. There were 6 districts actually, Zeila (Borama), Hargeisa, Berbera, Burao, Erigavo and Las And.

[X.Playa]

Disperate and selective interpretations. If you listen to the elder around 10 minutes he unequivocally and bluntly says the twon belong to isaaq " anakaa iska lahayn" of non isaaq he mentioned an old Arab family.

Now as far as what the mayor said its obvious he meant the district of Ceerigaabo which was the term for all Sanaag in 1960 . When he listed the Daarood he didn't mean ceerigaabo town he meant district of ceerigaabo which is the old term for the entire Sanaag region and in the end he corrected himself and used the term " district ".

Don't confuse " district of ceerigaabo which is the old name for the province before it was changed into sanaag" and the town or ceerigaabo.

There were 5 districts the British divided SL into the districts of hargaysa , burao, zeila-boorama, erigavo and las anod. So if one uses the term district of Hargaysa historically it means the modern day province of Waqooyi Galbeed and not the city itself.

- Your talking about the old man with the pink go' right? go listen to him a again he never said that at all.

- As for "the mayor" why would he talk about the Sanaag region, when he was questioned on the history of Erigavo city? the guy just put an end to your claim lol. I didn't even know Warsengali were in Erigavo around that time Laakin ninkaasba inoo cadeeyay.

- You should tell to your cousin Bent Over. There were 6 districts actually, Zeila (Borama), Hargeisa, Berbera, Burao, Erigavo and Las And.

When you are desperate you like to see and hear what you wish. Reality is you have been utterly dismantled and humiliated by Ben Dover,. My input was just about the district of ceerigaabo = not Ceerigaabo town. As far as what the old man around minutes 10 stated is pretty obvious and belies your assertion.

[Sharmarke91]

From 8.22 Clearly states the first somali settlers of Ceerigabo were indeed Abdullah Hamud - (Muse Ismail)

Jidaale demographic is Mohamed Muse (Urursuge) of [Muse Ismail] & Baregeye of [Dhulbahante]. They Intermarry heavily. Further East you go all the way to Lasqoray and border you will meet Yonis Muse of [Muse Ismail] largely living with the Warsangeli's.

It doesn't matter if the first settlers were HY. Mogadisho was first settled by Banadiri people and now it's a Hawiye city. And anyway I never disputed about the first settlers, in fact I did state to your delusional cousin that the first man to settle there was HY. However, my claim is that Erigavo is a shared city and the Isaaq and Harti clans share it 50/50 in the present day.

All though the people interviewed in the documentary are all Isaaq and biased they do clarify that it was always a shared city.


Jiidali the town is 100% inhabited by Bah Righaye and some Bih ina Faarax of the Naleya Ahmed and always has been an ancient Dhulbahante settlement.

Realy jidali belongs to you ? Looool even your most famouse Dhulbahante propagandist and virulent Isaaq hater Aw Jaamac knows better then to lie about Jidali. Just beacuse you watered from Karamaan, Jidali, Midhisho and Yufle it doesn't mean you owned the land or the well. Listen to the first 20 seconds.

LOL.

Who the fuck is this Aw Jaamac, MJ?

There is difference between Jiidali the valley and Jiidali the town.

Jiidali valley is a farming area. it extends from Jiidali town to Midhisho.

Jiidali the town is 100% Dhulbahante.

However, the Jiidali the valley has all the clans of Sanag, Harti and Isaaq.

Although the HY maintain a tiny village they recently built in the Jiidali valley were the apparently the grave Zubeer Awal is.



lol

So, by the same means then just because you watered in Erigavo doesn't mean you owned the land or the well! lol wtf.

[X.Playa]

A pictures worth a thousands words and a video even better.

Here are the h.y subclan who own Jidali holding their tribal assembly in their town. Where are the 100% Dhulos? Were they hiding when these Urur Suge were holding their meeting bluntly stating they own this district.

The tomb in the background is that of Subeer Awal Sheekh Isxaaq the founder of the habar awal clan, at least he died 500 years ago its evidence how long this region was in Isaaq hands.

[X.Playa]

It doesn't matter if the first settlers were HY. Mogadisho was first settled by Banadiri people and now it's a Hawiye city. And anyway I never disputed about the first settlers, in fact I did state to your delusional cousin that the first man to settle there was HY. However, my claim is that Erigavo is a shared city and the Isaaq and Harti clans share it 50/50 in the present day.

All though the people interviewed in the documentary are all Isaaq and biased they do clarify that it was always a shared city.


Jiidali the town is 100% inhabited by Bah Righaye and some Bih ina Faarax of the Naleya Ahmed and always has been an ancient Dhulbahante settlement.

Realy jidali belongs to you ? Looool even your most famouse Dhulbahante propagandist and virulent Isaaq hater Aw Jaamac knows better then to lie about Jidali. Just beacuse you watered from Karamaan, Jidali, Midhisho and Yufle it doesn't mean you owned the land or the well. Listen to the first 20 seconds.

LOL.

Who the fuck is this Aw Jaamac, MJ?

There is difference between Jiidali the valley and Jiidali the town.

Jiidali valley is a farming area. it extends from Jiidali town to Midhisho.

Jiidali the town is 100% Dhulbahante.

However, the Jiidali the valley has all the clans of Sanag, Harti and Isaaq.

Although the HY maintain a tiny village they recently built in the Jiidali valley were the apparently the grave Zubeer Awal is.



lol

So, by the same means then just because you watered in Erigavo doesn't mean you owned the land or the well! lol wtf.

[Sharmarke91]

Disperate and selective interpretations. If you listen to the elder around 10 minutes he unequivocally and bluntly says the twon belong to isaaq " anakaa iska lahayn" of non isaaq he mentioned an old Arab family.

Now as far as what the mayor said its obvious he meant the district of Ceerigaabo which was the term for all Sanaag in 1960 . When he listed the Daarood he didn't mean ceerigaabo town he meant district of ceerigaabo which is the old term for the entire Sanaag region and in the end he corrected himself and used the term " district ".

Don't confuse " district of ceerigaabo which is the old name for the province before it was changed into sanaag" and the town or ceerigaabo.

There were 5 districts the British divided SL into the districts of hargaysa , burao, zeila-boorama, erigavo and las anod. So if one uses the term district of Hargaysa historically it means the modern day province of Waqooyi Galbeed and not the city itself.

- Your talking about the old man with the pink go' right? go listen to him a again he never said that at all.

- As for "the mayor" why would he talk about the Sanaag region, when he was questioned on the history of Erigavo city? the guy just put an end to your claim lol. I didn't even know Warsengali were in Erigavo around that time Laakin ninkaasba inoo cadeeyay.

- You should tell to your cousin Bent Over. There were 6 districts actually, Zeila (Borama), Hargeisa, Berbera, Burao, Erigavo and Las And.

When you are desperate you like to see and hear what you wish. Reality is you have been utterly dismantled and humiliated by Ben Dover,. My input was just about the district of ceerigaabo = not Ceerigaabo town. As far as what the old man around minutes 10 stated is pretty obvious and belies your assertion.

What has Bent Over produced to substantiate his claim that Erigavo the city is an Isaaq town in the present day?

From the first instance we discussed this matter I made it clear to him that the first person to settle there was an Eydoor.

The dispute was about Erigavo today. He says it's an Isaaq town i.e 100% Idoor and I say its a shared city.

The following sources supported my claim.

- The general survey - Which confirmed that the Erigavo degaan was settled by numerous Dhulbahnte and Isaaq clans before the city was established.

- Elections of the 1960's - Which proofed that 2 Dhulbahante were elected from the constituency in 1964 and 1969.

- The map which he claimed was produced by "Ilaalo" of the British protectorate.

Even the recent corrupt elections of Somaliland which hardly any Dhulbahante participated, gives an indication that we are settling there in great numbers.

What more do you need?

[X.Playa]

Ceerigaabo is no more of a shared town then Burco. Daarood live there but the city and the country side belongs to Isaaq. By sharing you mean historical co-ownership and Ben Dover exactly understood your deceptive semantics and tore you a new anus.